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  1. #1
    Date d'inscription
    janvier 2011
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    541

    Why shouldn't cappy get Shield, Blade, and Song brother anymore?

    You only get one, depending which trait line you are... That is sad. Theres no good reason for it.

    I'm a Hands of healing cappy most of the time. If im playing in a 3 man group then song brother is going to be USELESS. I wish I could choose any 3 at the time, like it used to be. Is this going to be changed anytime, ever? The banners/heralds are a bit odd, but I think I could get used to a change like that... But Shield/Blade/Song brother is definitely something I think could be switched back to the way it was.
    Can I has fixed Fornost and ITA lootboxes?

  2. #2
    Date d'inscription
    juin 2011
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    1 879
    Citation Envoyé par masumane Voir le message
    Is this going to be changed anytime, ever?
    RockX chose make all three x-brothers give buffs to healing, DPS and tanking at the same time. As for Song-brother, e.g. To Arms gives +25% healing, +15% damage and -7% incoming damage. Therefore Song-brother can't really be considered useless even though Shield-brother or Blade-brother would have been better in some cases.

  3. #3
    Date d'inscription
    décembre 2012
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    266
    Tbn, Song-brother should be focused on -damage. You are the healer in this group, why do you buff other people healing?

  4. #4
    Date d'inscription
    juin 2011
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    1 879
    Citation Envoyé par Arabani Voir le message
    Tbn, Song-brother should be focused on -damage. You are the healer in this group, why do you buff other people healing?
    Because you get the buffs from Song-brother as well and since most if not all of the tank classes have self-heals you can boost with it.

  5. #5
    Date d'inscription
    décembre 2012
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    266
    Citation Envoyé par Elrantiri Voir le message
    Because you get the buffs from Song-brother as well and since most if not all of the tank classes have self-heals you can boost with it.
    So what? You are a healer, you should heal the others, you should reduce incoming damage and heal it back, you should not focus on giving + healing to others. It's great that we have all 3 buffs now, but:
    Imo, for the HoH captain it should be damage reduction> dps buff>outgoing healing.
    The yellow line-healing>reduction>dps.
    The red line-dps>healing>reduction.

  6. #6
    Date d'inscription
    juin 2011
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    1 879
    Citation Envoyé par Arabani Voir le message
    So what? You are a healer, you should heal the others, you should reduce incoming damage and heal it back, you should not focus on giving + healing to others.
    No, the Captain is not a healer, he is more than that. the Captain is a Captain, and the Captain can fulfill the healing role through buffs and healing, fulfill the damage role through buffs and damage and fulfill the tanking role through buffs and tanking. Buffs is what makes this class and given the buffs also apply to yourself so much more the reason to buff healing when specced for healing.

    Citation Envoyé par Arabani Voir le message
    It's great that we have all 3 buffs now, but:
    Imo, for the HoH captain it should be damage reduction> dps buff>outgoing healing.
    The yellow line-healing>reduction>dps.
    The red line-dps>healing>reduction.
    Given how the buffs also affect yourself, I don't see why they should be set up as you say. Boosting your own healing as HoH Captain seems like the obvious first choice to me with damage reduction as a close second. Also, the tanks have plenty of ways to reduce their inc damage and/or mitigation already.

  7. #7
    Date d'inscription
    mars 2011
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    The Prancing Pony, usually I'm drunk in a corner
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    3 387
    Citation Envoyé par Arabani Voir le message
    Tbn, Song-brother should be focused on -damage. You are the healer in this group, why do you buff other people healing?
    THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!! Hehe
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  8. #8
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    décembre 2007
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    Seattle, WA
    Messages
    7 796
    Eh, most captains are probably gonna be LtC specced for the DPS increasing buffs, which are the most general.

    If I'm a tank, I want the LoM buffs for myself more than I want to make the healer better, cause if I'm tanking, and I go **SQUISH** the entire group is screwed.

    That is reason enough to leave Shield Bro in the LoM line.
    Maley Oakensage, Captain of Elendilmir

    Alas Elendilmir, may you *jingle jangle* forever in the Forgotten West

  9. #9
    Date d'inscription
    juin 2011
    Messages
    328
    The reason they split the x-brother skills by line along with the tactics skills is obvious.

    It's because the DPS buffs are clearly more useful to more people most of the time in current broken difficult levels (although to be fair the DPS being generally more useful is nothing new). But Turbine wants more variety in what people use, so basically the only way to do that is to force you to use it based on what you are traited whether you like it or not.

    Even if for some reason this doesnt even work with 2 captains in a group last I checked (admittedly before the latest patch) and so a HoH captain was overwriting the LtC captains buffs and vice versa rather than stacking.

 

 

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