
Envoyé par
Bond007
Strongly disagree. Big time strongly disagree.
It's this attitude that made the moors into the zerg fest that RoI leaned towards, and RoR has become. People coming out into the moors or logging in and immediately asking "Group inv?" "Can I haz raid invite?" "Any groups need _____?" makes me want to slap em in the face. Like, right in the face. With a studded glove.
"Why such violent hatred towards groups," you ask, "what's the problem with grouping up?"
Here's the problem with grouping up. Grouping up instantly introduces a new factor into fights, the factor of focus fire. The side with more focus fire is gonna stomp all over the side that doesn't, sometimes (many times!) when the other side has more/higher ranked/better geared, you name it, players.
But guess what? Fights are more fun when it is solo players fighting other solo players. I am saying this from the perspective of a HUNTER, which is by far the easiest killed class in the moors right now, so this is not from bias. Hell, even healers have no room to complain about roaming solo because if you heal another player just once, if you auto-attack a creep who has 99.99999% of his health gone, you get the SAME amount of infamy as the guy who did that 99.9999%. There is ZERO reason not to solo. Zero reason.
Why is it more fun when solo players are fighting each other? Because it's a challenge for both sides. Say you're on freepside. You don't know how the fight is going, because you don't have a little tab open with every single freep out there on it, with their hp and where they are. You don't know if the tide is about to turn or not. You're just fighting for your life, however and whatever that means for your specific class. The same thing goes for the other side.
Now flip it. There's a group on one side, and a group on the other. One has poor focus fire, the other has fantastic. The poor focus fire group starts wiping. People see that their fellows are dying. Panic settles in as the inevitable and traumatic thing called "incapacitation" approaches. You know that if you die in this video game, you will cry for days. And you're on your last box of Kleenex. So what do you do once you see 4 little "dead" boxes on that fellowship tab? You break for the hills, screaming for npcs.
If you're not in a group, you can't solely rely on leaders telling you what to do, when to retreat, when to push, etc. You have to figure it out by yourself. That is the single most challenging aspect of PvP, and that is why the best raid leaders in this game are also usually the best players, period. Because they have to figure it out by themselves on the go, and tell others what to do. And because they have developed that skill, they are a better player for it.
People need to stop relying on groups in the moors. Grow some balls, and get out there and fight. Play your part. Heal people who appear to be dying by watching the action, not staring at the ezmode tab on the side of the screen. Kill the scary things that are killing your friends by figuring out which freep/creep should die first, not simply staring at the raid assist box until the dps target picks a new one. Support your side by handing out buffs, SI, whatever.
I understand that raiding is a key part of the PvP in this game, and I'm not saying everything should always be solo players v solo players. In fact, raiding is where I learned plenty of PvP skills that I probably wouldn't have learned elsewhere. But raiding doesn't teach you the basic concepts that make up a good PvP player, and that's why we have SO MANY poor players out there nowadays. Y'all are too lazy to step up and get out of the slump of having a raid leader hold your hand through every fight.
It's not "Group up or shut up." out there. It's "Group up and shut up." I RARELY see players who join raids a lot form raids of their own (Philladeas is a notable exception). Why? Because they don't know how to. Because the raid leaders who are out there are not teaching players to develop skill, they're teaching players to become button-mashing raid robots, with no concept of how to lead raids of their own. "Go here, click that, kill that." "Congrats guys, we won the moors, we took 5 keeps and are now camping the 3 ungrouped creeps at grams."
Gee, the next time I come out here, should I run around solo and have a chance at dying, or should I sit in GV until I get in a group so I can kill things with a far smaller chance of dying? Hmmm.... the choice is SO hard.
There's a point where raids simply cannot teach a player anything more. That's when a player needs to start soloing and learning how to take care of themselves. It's like taking the sucker out of the baby's mouth. FEED HIM REAL FOOD. NO MOAR BABY FOOD.
Yeah, I ranted.