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  1. #151
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    septembre 2008
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    Its never okay exploit UNLESS: The main reason behind exploiting is for what is referred to by these people as '####z and gigz l0l'.

    Awesome logic, just make sure your excuse is for laughs, and its all good!
    Ansi should have said he was doing it for: '####z and gigz l0l'. Free pass!

  2. #152
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    décembre 2007
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    Australia
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    Citation Envoyé par lionoil Voir le message
    Its never okay exploit UNLESS: The main reason behind exploiting is for what is referred to by these people as '####z and gigz l0l'.

    Awesome logic, just make sure your excuse is for laughs, and its all good!
    Ansi should have said he was doing it for: '####z and gigz l0l'. Free pass!
    Watch my language, I said 'some people'. Simply conveying their viewpoint, which I might add is not shared by Turbine banhammer (theoretically, in most cases).

  3. #153
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    Citation Envoyé par Untg99 Voir le message
    Watch my language, I said 'some people'. Simply conveying their viewpoint, which I might add is not shared by Turbine banhammer (theoretically, in most cases).
    Do you agree that's an acceptable excuse, or not? Yes, or No.

  4. #154
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    décembre 2007
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    Citation Envoyé par lionoil Voir le message
    Do you agree that's an acceptable excuse, or not? Yes, or No.
    I'm not going to answer in a flat yes or no, because the overall context calls for more than a 'black or white' vacuous set of moral guidelines.
    So, my answer is that it depends. My personal acceptance of that idea would depend on your answer to the following.
    Would you consider someone who, after having beaten every mission in the classic 'Operation Flashpoint:Cold War Crisis' on the hardest difficulty a cheater, if he then went back and finished it through again using cheats and modifications?

    If yes, then realise that this is an MMO (I.E. You can't finish it legit and then run back through with cheats), and as a result of that, my attitude would reflect in a succinctly sensitive and mindful fashion on the topic. Interpret that as you may.
    If no, then in translation to the setting of this game, there's not much of an argument.

    Pretty much I'm not going to just tell people anything other than, at the end of the day, however many webpages of rules and guidelines Turbine makes this is still nothing but a computer game.
    On that note I will admit though, that I haven't been very impressed by some of the various exploitations that have occurred in the past.
    Dernière modification par Untg99 ; 12/09/2013 à 08h09.

  5. #155
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    septembre 2008
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    Citation Envoyé par Untg99 Voir le message
    I'm not going to answer in a flat yes or no, because the overall context calls for more than a 'black or white' vacuous set of moral guidelines.
    If X is permitted if you provide an excuse, then anything is acceptable if you provide a reason, even if its a bad one. Example: I do X for lols, its acceptable.

    Citation Envoyé par Untg99 Voir le message
    So, my answer is that it depends. My personal acceptance of that idea would depend on your answer to the following.
    Would you consider someone who, after having beaten every mission in the classic 'Operation Flashpoint:Cold War Crisis' on the hardest difficulty a cheater, if he then went back and finished it through again using cheats and modifications?
    Did he cheat? Yes. So he cheatED.

    If we go by Kidefences logic: He says my groups run because Stickeez ran ~2 times. So by Kids logic, if you run/exploit/farm ~2 times you can be called a runner/exploiter/farmer.
    Therefore Kid would say he's a cheatER.

    Problem with your argument is linked to your example being a single player game being very isolated. Exploiting is similar to lieing in the respect to integrity. Once someone lies, or exploits, its very hard to trust they're not lieing/expoilting in the future. Thats why we call people liars/exploiters even though they're not lieing/exploiting all the time, but they do so when its beneficial. So in your situation it's incorrect to call them a cheatER, because it doesnt relate to all saved games, only that one.

  6. #156
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    mars 2009
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    Utah
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    @DocLove

    I think Orak posed a decent question and argument here.It's not o.k......unless they say so or it suits them?I think it is in fact a black and white topic you're either o.k. with exploiting or not.I think it's asinine to think everyone should adhere to your rules and ideas and standards when you don't even adhere to your own.Actually,I think it's asinine to think people should adhere your rules as well.Very elitist and schoolyard bully mentality.

    Trying to derail a thoughtful post with #### that doesn't matter like youtube video views is pretty childish just like all the other garbage you post.You even topped it off with some pretty unclever name-calling.

    Your tongue and mouth must be so tired from all the ###-kissing you do.And boot-licking.Because you are so desperate to be one of the cool kids and get them to back you up.

    You're a joke.You're not allowed in their kins,private channels or group,they make fun of you and mock you every chance they get and still you follow them around like a kicked puppy hoping they'll love you.I scoured the internet but,I couldn't find a meme to portray how ridiculously pathetic you are.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  7. #157
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    janvier 2011
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    Ouch... I felt that
    Pullout - Reading Rainbow - Somalii

  8. #158
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    mars 2009
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    Citation Envoyé par NewYorkStateofMind Voir le message


    Ouch... I felt that
    I choo-choo chose you,Noteeth.<3
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  9. #159
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    janvier 2011
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    Citation Envoyé par BeckyMcGee Voir le message
    I choo-choo chose you,Noteeth.<3
    Emotional Moment for me


    Pullout - Reading Rainbow - Somalii

  10. #160
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    août 2007
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    Citation Envoyé par BeckyMcGee Voir le message
    @DocLove

    I think Orak posed a decent question and argument here.It's not o.k......unless they say so or it suits them?I think it is in fact a black and white topic you're either o.k. with exploiting or not.I think it's asinine to think everyone should adhere to your rules and ideas and standards when you don't even adhere to your own.Actually,I think it's asinine to think people should adhere your rules as well.Very elitist and schoolyard bully mentality.

    Trying to derail a thoughtful post with #### that doesn't matter like youtube video views is pretty childish just like all the other garbage you post.You even topped it off with some pretty unclever name-calling.

    Your tongue and mouth must be so tired from all the ###-kissing you do.And boot-licking.Because you are so desperate to be one of the cool kids and get them to back you up.

    You're a joke.You're not allowed in their kins,private channels or group,they make fun of you and mock you every chance they get and still you follow them around like a kicked puppy hoping they'll love you.I scoured the internet but,I couldn't find a meme to portray how ridiculously pathetic you are.
    Hit the nail on the head there Boomies. Though I think comparing this individual to puppies is insulting to puppies and dogs everywhere.
    A cosmos without the Doctor scarcely bears thinking about- The Master

  11. #161
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    mars 2009
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    Butthurt about what exactly?

    And by what stretch of whose imagination are my tribe's player's "trash"?

    I don't exploit but,I have no issue with it.Doesn't affect me or my game play.If people's freeps are sitting in the middle of Gramsfoot.If they macro farm recipes.If they rank/comm farm etc. I have no feelings towards it or negative feelings towards people who do it for gain or for lulz.And if I am guilty by association for hanging out with people who do then so be it.

    I play the game for fun with the people I enjoy spending time with and I play in a way I most enjoy to.

    There is not one person in this thread (other than anonymous trolls such as yourself who add nothing but insults and pot-stirring to the equation) that I can not see some of their points of view nor is there a person in this thread I agree with all they say or do.Equally there isn't anyone here I have no good sentiments about and would not go up to bat for if I see the need for it.

    Me and Orak don't see eye to eye on a lot of things.I don't agree with all he says.But when he steps up for the underdog and tries to spare people trolling at the risk of he himself being trolled.I do agree and will back him up for that.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  12. #162
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    mars 2009
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    Citation Envoyé par Doc_Love Voir le message
    DERP
    I like Snozzy's gifs better.
    Dernière modification par BeckyMcGee ; 12/09/2013 à 23h56.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  13. #163
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    mars 2009
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    Citation Envoyé par Doc_Love Voir le message
    Nice edit, the Alliance will quote your wall of rage, stupidity and all next time, my friend.

    Cool story Tools.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  14. #164
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    mars 2009
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    Citation Envoyé par Doc_Love Voir le message


    Ansi Junior, was this your real post or did you trim down another wall of text?


    youtube High Fidelity-Cosby Sweater not getting an ban for posting a link for you to report this time
    Dernière modification par BeckyMcGee ; 13/09/2013 à 00h14.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  15. #165
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    mars 2009
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    well that isn't what my OP said exactly my OP said

    "In light of ANV posting SS of conversations with Ansi.Let it stand it be known that that Ansi is above Doclove(Tools/Hanzell) on the social ladder.As no one will in ANV will claim Tools as a friend or admit in public to speaking to him.

    Also as I've been grouping with ANV/Stainless and they recently invited Orak to group and in TS,this too makes us higher in the social ladder than Doclove.

    I also would like to point out you can't claim an "alliance" as you have no allies,or kin or tribe to speak up.Therefore you can not claim to represent or be a member of any movement or party.


    Have fun playing with yourself.I'm sure you're good at it.

    CBF to find a meme.Good day."
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  16. #166
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    mars 2009
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    Citation Envoyé par Doc_Love Voir le message
    Quoting before Ansi Jr. edits.
    Ansi Sr. I'm older than Ansi.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  17. #167
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    Citation Envoyé par Doc_Love Voir le message
    Doesn't matter, affiliated with Ansi.

    BUSTED

    Man,Tyra Banks is hot.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  18. #168
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    It was only exceeded in boringness by all and anything you have ever posted past,present,and future.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  19. #169
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    I can not anymore than I could attest to anyone else's sobriety there.

    Most of them live around the world from me so I have no idea what they partake in.


    Also this just in....still at this very moment...no one likes you.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  20. #170
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    mars 2009
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    You're not allowed in any of the previously mentioned parties kins/tribes,activities,Teamspeaks,u se created channels or hearts so.....once again you can not represent a group or organization of people.

    Also, http://geekologie.com/2012/01/finall...ookie-reci.php
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  21. #171
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    mars 2009
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    Utah
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    Dear Tools,your pants are on fire.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  22. #172
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    mars 2009
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    Well Tools I had several conversations with several ANV members today they deny knowing you (Doclove) or acknowledging you as a friend.

    I do have SS to support the fact they do not only not know you but do not like you they have been asked to stop the flame war on forums and as you can see in this thread today have refrained from posting after they were asked not to and discussed it with their fellow kin members.They blatantly told me it makes them angry you would insult Lushy and Irish as they respect them as players and people and you continue to stir a pot that is now on simmer.

    So if you are so important to ANV why will no one claim you?,no one knows you and no one likes what you're doing here?And it is going against their members wishes and what they're trying to accomplish so please spare me that you're a higher up in ANV,we all know it's you Tools.

    I have to black out the rest of mine and said ANV members conversation as they aren't forums business but will include all relevant statements pending getting the o.k. from the ANV members in the SS,tomorrow.

    Only wrath anyone will be feeling will be you on the receiving end.
    Dernière modification par BeckyMcGee ; 13/09/2013 à 02h17.
    ~~~Boomshockalaka-2~~~~

  23. #173
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    août 2013
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    Citation Envoyé par Doc_Love Voir le message
    An insider from ANV reports that Ocrack sounded like he was under the influence, can you confirm these allegations?
    Der, that is how he always sounds...didn't you watch his youtube vid ?

    BeckyMcGee

    Well Tools I had several conversations with several ANV members today they deny knowing you (Doclove) or acknowledging you as a friend.
    Glad you posted this Boomie....'cause i was thinking otherwise..there is hope for the server yet..

  24. #174
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    décembre 2007
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    Citation Envoyé par lionoil Voir le message
    -
    Pretty much bored responding, and tbh I can't really understand portions of your responses anyway.

    All I'm going to say is that I really have no idea why you have such a gripe over Kidefence and anyone else apart of the kin. Even if he is the worst scum of a human being, as it has urgently seemed like you have wanted to make the point of, I myself legitimately enjoy playing the game with and/or against him and any ANV/Stainless members whenever I get the chance to do so.
    Being a POS video game, thats really all that matters.

    Whatever the hell this thing is, just let go of it and move on. Nobody likes a Goob.


    As far as exploiting goes, it doesn't really even matter because this is just a video game, which regardless of any excuse should be void of any emotional tanglements and sentimentalities.
    I'll have fun however I want as long as I can keep continuing to have fun (Which means I wouldn't do anything to get myself banned). I'm sure at least some of these liars, cheaters, exploiters, rulebreakers, freepcreeps, [insert ####ed up derogatory here] will have the same idea to some varying degree.

    Have fun knowing that I'm not checking this thread ever again. Bye.
    Dernière modification par Untg99 ; 13/09/2013 à 11h48.

  25. #175
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    novembre 2007
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    USA
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    if it's the shaming part, then that's a good lol considering how much grief people used to give tyrannicus for doing the exact same thing portrayed in the video. granted he was of a different temperament (IE had spine), I wonder if the players against the 'shaming' had a different stance on it back when he was the target?
    There may come a time for valor without renown, for those without swords may surely still die upon them.


 

 
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