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  1. #1
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    juin 2011
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    Jure's PVMP Gambler starter guide

    Jure's guide to gambling

    Hello again, it's time for another burglar guide. Gambler is all about precise timing mixed with a bit of luck and survivability. Many burglars take the easy path of QK and have never realized the potency and rewarding gameplay of the gambler. With this set-up you can win 3v1 matches without much work. It takes more time to learn gambler but in time you will become more stronger than you ever were in quiet knife. I'm going to show you the basics of gambler and answering to questions posted in comments, have fun gambling!

    1.traits
    2.basics
    3.LI's
    4.strategies


    1. Traits


    Or you can replace dust with improved disable, It's up to you. I don't suggest you to trait any red, after all gambler is not about damage, more like playing with your prey.

    2. basics

    You can increase the chance of gambles 3 different ways.

    10% from the Legendary Trait: Dealings Done.
    40% from the buff you get after a devastating hit when you trait 4 or more deep into Gambler.
    20% from a Burglar’s Tools legacies.

    This is debuffing gamble, your best friend. Easiest to apply with footpad diversion and clever retort.

    Remember to use gambler strike about ~13sec after applying gamble, it refreshes the old gamble and put it to max tier.

    Next one is disabling gamble which you can apply with provoke or mischievous glee, never use provoke because you need to hit it from stealth to apply the gamble. Start with SS and if you need disabling gamble use glee which is self heal at the same time. This comes in handy against number of classes which we will discuss more in the "tactics" section.

    Tier 1 = 15s Mez
    Tier 2 = 20s Mez
    Tier 3 = 30s Mez
    Tier 4 = 30s Mez
    Tier 5 = 40s Mez
    Tier 6 = 60s Mez


    There is also damaging gamble but it's rather useless. In some cases you can use it, for example sprinting warg or toxic carpace weaver.

    3. Legendary items

    NOTE: This is just what I use, there are other viable setups too.


    On tools you can also put addle legacies but personally I won't use them in my gambler setup.

    4. Strategies

    Weaver: Start to dps the weaver as normal, no need for debuffing gambles, just put on damaging gamble and CA dot's just because you can't do any damage during toxic carpace. During toxic carpace you can use glee for self heal and mezz. Riddle the pet so the spider can't eat it, also addle the burrow. During carpace you can also remove poisons.

    Reaver: Start with diversion from stealth, remove whichever wound they start with, dust or thrash. Refresh the debuffing gamble and apply dust = Now you can go and grab a coffee while the reaver tries to hit you (MC Hammer- Can't touch this) and if you're mean, you can pop another debuff gamble from clever retort.

    Defiler: Same strategy as QK really, use only subtle stab, mischievous glee and SS while tiering up devastate buff to 15%, after that just blow away.

    Warleader: Same strategy as QK really, use only subtle stab, mischievous glee and SS while tiering up devastate buff to 15%, after that just blow away.

    Stalker: You can put a debuffing gamble on them but usually not needed, just proceed with your normal rotation and use glee mezz and twist if needed. You can also refresh the mezz with gambler strike.

    Blackarrow: If the BA is lame he will try to kite you in firetrap and bleed trap, in that case it's going to be close one. Just keep up the dps and mezz from glee and additional stun from twist. This is proper dps race. Dust is the best trick to use in this one.

    Guide to be continue...
    [Juregar/Laurelin] [Jureon/Evernight] [Ragetrain/Laurelin]
    Member of Puliveivarit
    I was a corner survivor

  2. #2
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    juin 2011
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    Thumbs up

    Nice one bro but I'm still not coming out of hiding, oooops I mean retirement lol !!!

    Look forward to the next chapter

  3. #3
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    août 2011
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    London
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    Nice guide, however the small blue font doesn't blend well with the grey forum background, making it hard to read for me atleast.
    retired warden mouse clicker turtlemoss, countless storebought creeps

  4. #4
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    septembre 2010
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    612
    Thanks for the guide. Im recently rolling a burg. But maybe I wont dig too deep into the class and the guide now, because with major change in HD, who know how many of these would become out of date. Easier to learn the class from the beginning when HD comes than change the old habit I think.

  5. #5
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    novembre 2010
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    Very nice, thankyou!....and no ambi even...

    beside Dealings Done which Legendary Traits do you use and how do you handle moors armor


    Thanks
    Dernière modification par Derethson ; 12/09/2013 à 11h03.
    We did not come here to treat with Sauron, faithless and accursed!

  6. #6
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    octobre 2011
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    Looks good! Gambler is definitely a line every burg should become familiar with instead of just sticking with boring old QK. Makes your role a lot more fun

  7. #7
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    juin 2011
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    Citation Envoyé par Derethson Voir le message
    Very nice, thankyou!....and no ambi even...

    beside Dealings Done which Legendary Traits do you use and how do you handle moors armor


    Thanks
    Stick and move, flashing blades. 4 unseen and 2 chance/pandemonium depending on situation.
    [Juregar/Laurelin] [Jureon/Evernight] [Ragetrain/Laurelin]
    Member of Puliveivarit
    I was a corner survivor

  8. #8
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    Citation Envoyé par Jureon Voir le message
    Stick and move, flashing blades. 4 unseen and 2 chance/pandemonium depending on situation.
    Admittedly I'm a complete burg noob (I'm thinking of leveling one as gambler in the moors seems like it would fit my preferred playstyle) but why Stick and Move over Exposed throat? I'd think with an appropriate crit rating the crit response chain would be almost always on cooldown even without Stick and Move, and another chance at a stun with decent damage as well would be a nice addition. Plus the defensive bonuses on Stick and Move seem underwhelming to me.

    On LIs, assuming the cunning attack bleed stacking legacy means what it seems like it means, why not that over both fate and actual bleed damage multiplier?

    Thanks for the guide, very helpful finding my bearing while I visualize how this will play out (since i've yet to actually level my burg).
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  9. #9
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    novembre 2007
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    Melbourne
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    697
    Citation Envoyé par Jureon Voir le message

    I think this guide is a great thing.
    Couple things I don't quite understand with LI choice though.

    Bag:
    - No Glee pulses and no Addle CD.
    I understand they're tough to fit in. Is +10% movement speed and HiPS CD necessary though?
    Also question the +2 camo level on a main bag.

    Dagger:
    - SS from stealth. I can understand this selection if we are going QK. Seems a waste if you are only using SS once a fight for the minor damage boost though?
    - 63 fate over agi
    - Lack of Subtle critical multiplier.

    Just my thoughts, the rest looks a good starters guide for sure.
    Hi!

  10. #10
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    juillet 2010
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    Citation Envoyé par spelunker Voir le message
    Admittedly I'm a complete burg noob (I'm thinking of leveling one as gambler in the moors seems like it would fit my preferred playstyle) but why Stick and Move over Exposed throat? I'd think with an appropriate crit rating the crit response chain would be almost always on cooldown even without Stick and Move, and another chance at a stun with decent damage as well would be a nice addition. Plus the defensive bonuses on Stick and Move seem underwhelming to me.

    On LIs, assuming the cunning attack bleed stacking legacy means what it seems like it means, why not that over both fate and actual bleed damage multiplier?

    Thanks for the guide, very helpful finding my bearing while I visualize how this will play out (since i've yet to actually level my burg).
    Stick and Move is interesting, you know how when you crit you can "unlock" the skill burglar's advantage, double-edged strike, etc now with Stick and Move crits and evades start the chain. Gamblers don't crit as much as a QT burg so this helps along with Fate (even though I use agility).
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