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Discussion: How do I beat impale?

  1. #1
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    juillet 2010
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    How do I beat impale?

    I have been in the Moors for a few months now. And I have been doing 1v1s I stopped doing CDs etc etc. But impale always gets me unless I pot it or use CDs even with 40% phy and tact mits and 22% crit defence I still lose about 4-6k just with impale. Is there any way to beat this without CDs or pots?
    Aldrest R11 Burglar
    Motharan R6 Guardian
    Tormoth R4 Captain
    Langlegion Warden

  2. #2
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    août 2007
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    Impale ignores mitigations.

    It does damage based on how many bleeds are active and 2 out of 4 reaver bleeds are on a longer cd than their duration, so when you see that you have enough active, you could kite the reaver until they've worn off, reducing the damage impale will do. Tactics like this were quite common before U10, when many good burgs were relying on trick kiting to beat reavers without CDs.
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  3. #3
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    juin 2011
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    There's nothing wrong with using KO in a spar. Reavers often use Wrath as well. I'd pot the Trash dot as it comes up, then wait for mutilation to come up and then pop KO. Otherwise try kiting and using dazes to the max.
    +Moose+ tells you, 'Do you still need me to put the smack down on this foe??'

  4. #4
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    juillet 2010
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    In a galaxy far far away.
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    Citation Envoyé par Stealthiness Voir le message
    There's nothing wrong with using KO in a spar. Reavers often use Wrath as well. I'd pot the Trash dot as it comes up, then wait for mutilation to come up and then pop KO. Otherwise try kiting and using dazes to the max.
    My server thinks any CD is a crime.
    Aldrest R11 Burglar
    Motharan R6 Guardian
    Tormoth R4 Captain
    Langlegion Warden

  5. #5
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    septembre 2010
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    Citation Envoyé par ry5555 Voir le message
    My server thinks any CD is a crime.
    with good reason.
    Nerf healing in PvMP and just maybe it will be worth it again.

  6. #6
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    Citation Envoyé par ry5555 Voir le message
    My server thinks any CD is a crime.
    Are the reavers using wrath? If you're really struggling with reavers who are just straight dpsing you down without using wrath or AtO, there is probably room for improvement in your gear/rotation/movement/etc. If I were consistently losing to a reaver who was using either of these, I wouldn't hesitate to either trick-kite them to avoid the bigger impale hits and not let them take advantage of wrath, or use knives out.

    If you don't like how someone is fighting you 1v1, swap sides and chat (respectfully), or don't fight them.
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  7. #7
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    juillet 2010
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    In a galaxy far far away.
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    Citation Envoyé par spelunker Voir le message
    Are the reavers using wrath? If you're really struggling with reavers who are just straight dpsing you down without using wrath or AtO, there is probably room for improvement in your gear/rotation/movement/etc. If I were consistently losing to a reaver who was using either of these, I wouldn't hesitate to either trick-kite them to avoid the bigger impale hits and not let them take advantage of wrath, or use knives out.

    If you don't like how someone is fighting you 1v1, swap sides and chat (respectfully), or don't fight them.
    I try not to use CDs but the only thing that gets me is impale. I will try kiting now.
    Aldrest R11 Burglar
    Motharan R6 Guardian
    Tormoth R4 Captain
    Langlegion Warden

  8. #8
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    septembre 2010
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    Kiting and stuns work for me. Hardest part i find about the reavers is their use of wrath and gut punch to get defeat responses up.

    I wouldn't say it's a crime, but it may give you a bad reputation
    Reavers are the toughest fight imo, impale is OP.

  9. #9
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    décembre 2011
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    Citation Envoyé par ry5555 Voir le message
    I have been in the Moors for a few months now. And I have been doing 1v1s I stopped doing CDs etc etc. But impale always gets me unless I pot it or use CDs even with 40% phy and tact mits and 22% crit defence I still lose about 4-6k just with impale. Is there any way to beat this without CDs or pots?
    4-6k heath loss just from impale? Really ? I never crit above 3k with impale. Even when I'm fighting low aud hunters.

  10. #10
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    décembre 2011
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    Citation Envoyé par ry5555 Voir le message
    My server thinks any CD is a crime.
    CDs r a crime


    P.S
    I have seen peeps get ganked in a 1v1 cause they used CDs
    Dernière modification par Fererif ; 06/07/2013 à 19h24.

  11. #11
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    juillet 2010
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    Citation Envoyé par Fererif Voir le message
    4-6k heath loss just from impale? Really ? I never crit above 3k with impale. Even when I'm fighting low aud hunters.
    I meant overall with bleeds around 2-3k at first then we you remove the bleeds is causes around 700-900 per bleed.
    Aldrest R11 Burglar
    Motharan R6 Guardian
    Tormoth R4 Captain
    Langlegion Warden

  12. #12
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    octobre 2010
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    Rez Circle
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    You don't.


    As soon as you get a bleed on you, try and pot it immediately. If you can't, kite them with tricks until the bleed ticks off, otherwise they'll stack a few more and crit you into oblivion with it. (Assuming you have maxed trick range legacy (If not, why?) )
    Eniigmatik | Exploit

 

 

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