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  1. #51

    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    nice post ...a simple solution to avoiding copyright infringement is to stick to works created in a time frame that corresponds ..ie those works that are generally recognized as public domain ..<ie anythin over 100 years old is public domain> youd be suprised at just how much music youll find ...<also works generated from the 1200 to 1600's fit the RP enviornment better>

  2. #52

    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    Here's a question.
    Since Turbine has some of the rights to the LotR franchise (I assume this includes music), is reproducing songs from the LotR movies in-game via the music system, by the players, an infringement upon copyright?

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vraell View Post
    Here's a question.
    Since Turbine has some of the rights to the LotR franchise (I assume this includes music), is reproducing songs from the LotR movies in-game via the music system, by the players, an infringement upon copyright?
    Turbine has rights to books only (Hobbit and LOTR, no other books) not movies, so they have no rights to music.

  4. #54
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    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    Quote Originally Posted by durinsbane View Post
    Turbine has rights to books only (Hobbit and LOTR, no other books) not movies, so they have no rights to music.
    Its more like they have the right to create a mmo based on the works.

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    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    Quote Originally Posted by sactoking View Post
    How many college football fans do we have? Anyone ever watched the marching band halftime shows? Recognize the songs? I guarantee you they don't pay royalties. I was the drum major for the largest 100% student-run collegiate marching band in the nation and am intimately familiar with these issues, as we released a CD and had to deal with them. One of our songs, arranged off of a recording of a live concert, was never published on an album, so we were denied copyright permission. Obviously, we didn't lay that track down. All the others were fine.
    "Recognize the songs? I guarantee you they don't pay royalties."

    I was under the impression that the hefty purchase of the score + reproducible parts for each instrument by an educational facility for the purpose of education, including how to perform (Performing Arts) removed said facility from having to pay royalties. At least that how it was when I was in school.

    Now on the other hand, when i went to band camp during the summers, the public performances of CR material of course had royalties as well as our "remember your summer recordings" we usually bought at the end of the session because the performance was available to non camper related audiences and of course the recordings were distributed to anyone who wanted to buy them and were sold for a profit.
    Last edited by pipgup; Jun 21 2008 at 10:47 AM.

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    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    Quote Originally Posted by durinsbane View Post
    Turbine has rights to books only (Hobbit and LOTR, no other books) not movies, so they have no rights to music.
    and yet the incorperate the songs from the movie into the in game music. Not to mention alot of the artwork is similar to stuff you see in teh movie. Weather top, Trolls,styles of Dress. That fancy Quiver Legolas uses. etc

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    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferumac View Post
    and yet the incorperate the songs from the movie into the in game music. Not to mention alot of the artwork is similar to stuff you see in teh movie. Weather top, Trolls,styles of Dress. That fancy Quiver Legolas uses. etc
    Which songs from the movies did Turbine incorporate into this game?

    Just watched FoTR again last night. Weathertop in the movie and Weathertop in this game bear no resemblence to each other. The version in this game is much better, in my opinion, than that in the movie.

    Things may look and sound similar but that is not the same as an outright copy. After all trolls are all ugly and most everyone's version of one is similar. Mediaeval garb is all going to look similar. It is period fashion based on historical documents.
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    Lightbulb Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    The music is pretty cool in the movie. Turbine did a good job with their music, but I wish they at least got the rights to Howard Shore's masterpiece(s)! The movie music just seems so rich and perfect for the times it was used in the movie. The Minas Morgul theme would fit perfectly with Carn Dum...sorta. A Knife in the Dark would be perfect for Book 5 chapter 8. "Osgiliath Invaded" would fit well for book 3 chapter 6 (or whichever was the one for Trestlebridge).

    Maybe have a mix? They did a good job with the music for places like Goblin-Town and instances. Maybe during massive raids in the Moors have the "Siege of Gondor" playing?
    I just like the movie music is all, and their interpretations of Orcs, Gondorians, Ithilien Rangers, Rohirrim, Aragorn, Faramir, Gimli and the rest (John Rhys-Davies was awesome!)

    Oh well too late now...still they did a good job with their music...

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    Re: Copyright Questions Answered

    Watch out for Metallica, they're probably in game right now hunting down those who illegally play they're songs.

  10. #60

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    How do cover bands get away with it then lol they even get PAID to play other ppl's music
    Is it still considered in public if yer on a private copmpany's server?
    Last edited by buddahcjcc222; Mar 27 2009 at 03:04 PM.

  11. #61

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    In the case of bar bands, the establishment is paying a charge to one of the copyright offices that will gets distributed to all artist. thats why many bars and restaurants don't have live music. It's just another thing for them to pay.

 

 
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