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  1. #1
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    Raiding with The Last Alliance - an offer to small kins

    Dear small kin leader on Anor

    TL;DR : The Last Alliance invites other small kins on Anor to participate in Raids.

    Shortly after the release of Rise of Isengard The Last Alliance started working with two other kins to raid together. We had been unable to field complete raiding teams of 12 players on our own without calling for a significant number of people in /LFF, /World, and other channels. That could work but was frequently a bit of a hassle – if we were even able to form a complete raid. Thus we formed partnerships with other, smaller kins whose members had an interest in raiding. These were “The Iron Hills Mining Collective” (all dwarves – lead by Borgrim) and “Servant of the Dark Lord” (lead by Linch). This cooperation allowed us to start raiding regularly – almost weekly – going to Draigoch (6-12 man T2C) and The Tower of Orthanc (12 man T1). Especially near the end of the expansion we frequently had to fill up the raid with friends and random players but as a rule we – and they – had a good time and cleared the tower. (Exceptions were usually due to a lack of geared tanks).

    Now with almost two weeks of heavy horseback riding under our belts, we feel it is time to explore the newest double-fellowship content as well as some of the scaling older instances. We are aware that some people consider the content trivial and unexciting but that is an entirely different issue. Since Mirkwood - and made even clearer in Isengard - we do not strive to be the very "best" we can be as a group or fight against the toughest challenges. Instead our focus has been on making content available to as many people as possible. If somebody wants to try raiding, we like to provide an opportunity to do so, regardless of your experience with large group content. We have had several raiders who had never even set foot in a regular Fellowship instance before they came along in a raid with us.

    On of the downsides to being an informal "Raid Training Kin" is that sometimes one of our members decides to try his luck and skills in a larger raiding kin. This is unfortunate for us but far from unexpected. We can only try to steer them towards one of the many socially adept kins with mature players. (Quite a few members of There and Back Again has a TLA history). This depletion of our ranks over time means that even if we keep reecruiting, we tend to get players with lower level characters, and while they are very welcome and cherished, they are not raiders from day one. So we have a bit of a shortfall when it comes to gathering 12 eager players on a regular basis.

    To fill that shortfall I would like to offer my fellow Kin Leaders of smaller kins on Anor the opportunity to offer their members some semi-regular raiding. I cannot guarantee that we will have spots open for everybody in any given week but chances are that TLA will only fill 6-8 spots with regularity leaving 4-6 raiding spots up for grabs. And in this situation I would rather fill the open spots with players who do not regularly experience end-game large group content due to being members of smaller Kins. There are all sorts of perfectly valid reasons to play with close friends rather than join a larger kin but that shouldn't automatically preclude players from the raid experience.

    We raid on the weekends at times that are more-or-less acceptable to both Europeans and Americans (see below). We use Discord to explain tactics and call out stuff during fights, so it is convenient if everybody in on Discord, however we know that some players are precluded from voice chat for various reasons, so it is not a demand. Some only listen on Discord and some require typed out explanations, which by nature can be a bit shorter than the verbal ones, but we manage.

    We use Need/Greed/Pass and have only had a couple of incidents of players rolling for stuff they didn't really Need. We then let them know politely (through their Kin Leader/Officer) that we don't want to see a repetition, and that usually sorts it out. It happens sometimes because players are not used to the social norms of a group due to playing alone almost exclusively. No need to see the worst in people.

    If you wish to participate in our raids with your kin, let me know either here or in-game. During raid mustering, we usually invite the Leader into the raid and let him invite his kinnies as a Raid Assistant. That has worked out just fine so far.

    Our current raiding schedule is (all times are Server times [East Coast, USA] which can be seen using the /servertime command):

    Sat 4th of April, 11am: Erebor Cluster Raids

    Sun 5th of April, 2pm: Tower of Orthanc (75) T1 and T2C attempts

    Sat 11th of April, 11am: Helegrod, all wings (85)

    Sun 29th of March, 2pm: Ost Dunhoth

    I plan to update the list weekly, letting us try a variety of raids or raid-like events - or even skirmishes. It is possible that the times will change slightly as we get feedback from kinnies & friends of the kin.

    Zohal, Leader of The Last Alliance

    Edit: New week added.
    Last edited by Zohal; Apr 02 2020 at 01:05 PM.
    Zohal
    85 Warden - Leader of The Last Alliance - Anor
    Challenger of the Rift - Challenger of Helegrod

  2. #2
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    The Mithril League, which I'm a member of, is also a sort of Raid Training Kin (I like that term). Maybe it would be worth trading calendars.

    I'm not sure if I can makes those times, but some of our group probably can.
    On Crickhollow: Wenslydale (Hobbit Burglar), Leolwyn (Woman Hunter)
    On Anor, Mithril League: Ardith (Woman Captain)
    Learning to raid on Anor https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...League-Kinship

  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echoweaver View Post
    The Mithril League, which I'm a member of, is also a sort of Raid Training Kin (I like that term). Maybe it would be worth trading calendars.

    I'm not sure if I can makes those times, but some of our group probably can.
    Thank you for responding. I'll get in touch with Jimi as soon as possible. If I don't catch him online, I'll drop him a note.

    Are you generally a US based Kin? Don't see many online now at 12:13pm.

    /Zohal
    Zohal
    85 Warden - Leader of The Last Alliance - Anor
    Challenger of the Rift - Challenger of Helegrod

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohal View Post
    Thank you for responding. I'll get in touch with Jimi as soon as possible. If I don't catch him online, I'll drop him a note.

    Are you generally a US based Kin? Don't see many online now at 12:13pm.

    /Zohal
    Jimi isn't US-based. I am, and I think most are. Usually if I log in during the work day Eastern Time, I see a couple of people on.

    We're not enormous, but a lot of the members are very active.

    I can probably show up for some EU-timed raids.
    On Crickhollow: Wenslydale (Hobbit Burglar), Leolwyn (Woman Hunter)
    On Anor, Mithril League: Ardith (Woman Captain)
    Learning to raid on Anor https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...League-Kinship

  5. #5
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    We did our first raid today and it was a success!

    The team consisted of:
    7 from The Last Alliance
    2 from Servant of the Dark Lord
    2 from The Mithril League
    1 from There and Back Again

    We completed The Battle for Erebor and Flight to the Lonely Mountain without any drama but The Fires of Smaug was a learning experience! After a handful of wipes to smoke, we had arrived at a sensible tactic and downed the Fiery Grim. As we had been at it for a couple of hours, we completed the day with another Troll bash!

    It was good fun and it was nice to raid with some new friends.
    Zohal
    85 Warden - Leader of The Last Alliance - Anor
    Challenger of the Rift - Challenger of Helegrod

  6. #6
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    We're still going strong and raiding with varied success.

    On the 7th we did another sweep of the Erebor raids. We tried T2 (not C) in The Battle for Erebor but it didn't go very well so we did it on T1 as well as the others.
    The 8th saw us return to Ost Dunhoth which was a bit tougher this time around for various reasons so we only killed a couple of bosses. Still, people had a good time and we learned a lot - as we hoped to do.

    The Mithril League and a few other kins showed up to fill out the roster which we appreaciated.
    Zohal
    85 Warden - Leader of The Last Alliance - Anor
    Challenger of the Rift - Challenger of Helegrod

  7. #7
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    I was asked by a couple of players on Anor if we also accepted new members into The Last Alliance.
    Yes, by all means!

    As a matter of fact there are currently more members active and online at a given time than any time since the glory days of Angmar and the Rift Raids. Yesterday we had 4 level 33 Hunters online at the same time, which I consider a bit odd but also a sign that people are still levelling and enjoying themselves on our server.
    Zohal
    85 Warden - Leader of The Last Alliance - Anor
    Challenger of the Rift - Challenger of Helegrod

  8. #8
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    We're still having fun with the various raids and have had the pleasure of being joined by members of The Mithril League, French Kiss, There and back Again, Erben der Valar, Servant of the Dark Lord and others I have forgotten right now. Thank you all for joining us and making our runs a success.

    Both Draigoch and Tower of Orthanc are "outdated" content right now but they can still be a lot of fun, and some people have never experienced those places. Additionally, it is a chance for our members to bring alts through the old content. Undoubtedly a win-win!
    Zohal
    85 Warden - Leader of The Last Alliance - Anor
    Challenger of the Rift - Challenger of Helegrod

 

 

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