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  1. #1
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    Stacking of tenderize

    the stacking of tenderize still doesn´t work correclty.
    at max rank we´ve a value of + 128520 critrating but it should be +160650 crit rating.
    either it stacks only 4 times not 5 times as it should be or not all ranks grant the +32130 crit rating as they should do.

  2. #2
    Currently each tier of Bolster/Tenderize give the ratings as follows. Clearly not as intended:


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    Bolster too ok.
    In addition never seen the 100% mitigations which we should get gain with a chance from bolster.

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    Any reasons these cant just be converted to percents? And the wording on bolster about mitigation and crit def is inherently confusing; what exactly does it do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brinuw View Post
    Any reasons these cant just be converted to percents? And the wording on bolster about mitigation and crit def is inherently confusing; what exactly does it do?
    For crit def with s1 you've a fix value r2+ increase this value by 150%+
    Value r2= value r1 +1.5× value r1
    Value r3= value r1+2× value r1
    And so on.

    And value x can stack uo to 5 Times.

    And yeah the mitigation part is confusing.
    Either it sets the partial avoidance mit to 100% or our mitigations (for a short time ir fight duration).
    Mit Clearing Front the discription second would be op.
    But doesn't Matte. Either the chance is so small <1ppm, or IT's bugged. I never saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mukor View Post
    For crit def with s1 you've a fix value r2+ increase this value by 150%+
    Value r2= value r1 +1.5× value r1
    Value r3= value r1+2× value r1
    And so on.

    And value x can stack uo to 5 Times.

    And yeah the mitigation part is confusing.
    Either it sets the partial avoidance mit to 100% or our mitigations (for a short time ir fight duration).
    Mit Clearing Front the discription second would be op.
    But doesn't Matte. Either the chance is so small <1ppm, or IT's bugged. I never saw it.
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ltip-Confusion

    read this please, I made just to answer your confusion
    Lvl 130 Guard - Olebenny || Lvl 130 Guard - Theoderad || Lvl 130 Guard - Estelrian || Lvl 130 Captain - Galtherium || Lvl 130 Runekeeper - Leegun || Lvl 130 Mini - Nathorean || Lvl 130 Champion - Cephrial
    Leader of Raiders Beneath the Shadow - Arkenstone
    What more does one need in LotRO than a lot of morale and a shield?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebenny View Post
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ltip-Confusion

    read this please, I made just to answer your confusion
    Thank you for that explanation but Ive still got another question. as a primarily yellow guard is this even worth slotting or just eating the less crit def and just putting points somewhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brinuw View Post
    Thank you for that explanation but Ive still got another question. as a primarily yellow guard is this even worth slotting or just eating the less crit def and just putting points somewhere else?
    Its a tanking trait, if you are just landscaping/dps'ing then dont trait it, spend those points in other dps aspects of yellow line and red line
    Lvl 130 Guard - Olebenny || Lvl 130 Guard - Theoderad || Lvl 130 Guard - Estelrian || Lvl 130 Captain - Galtherium || Lvl 130 Runekeeper - Leegun || Lvl 130 Mini - Nathorean || Lvl 130 Champion - Cephrial
    Leader of Raiders Beneath the Shadow - Arkenstone
    What more does one need in LotRO than a lot of morale and a shield?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebenny View Post
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ltip-Confusion

    read this please, I made just to answer your confusion
    Ah k thanks. Reading it this way can work.
    My propotions were gieesed into the blue from mitigation and were we habe it in our stats.
    For mits themself I said ot would be op and that I never see the buffs.
    But are you sure with the 100% chance for a stack per response skill. This would mean blocking one time 4 Times stacled bolster. The block itself grant a bolster and the 3 responses? I'm not sure about it. Could get tested: second Player with the aggro of a foe->shieldblow + 3 responses and checking after each responses if the buff is stacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mukor View Post
    Ah k thanks. Reading it this way can work.
    My propotions were gieesed into the blue from mitigation and were we habe it in our stats.
    For mits themself I said ot would be op and that I never see the buffs.
    But are you sure with the 100% chance for a stack per response skill. This would mean blocking one time 4 Times stacled bolster. The block itself grant a bolster and the 3 responses? I'm not sure about it. Could get tested: second Player with the aggro of a foe->shieldblow + 3 responses and checking after each responses if the buff is stacked.
    Did you even read my post? I literally wrote that didnt work cuz I tested it
    Lvl 130 Guard - Olebenny || Lvl 130 Guard - Theoderad || Lvl 130 Guard - Estelrian || Lvl 130 Captain - Galtherium || Lvl 130 Runekeeper - Leegun || Lvl 130 Mini - Nathorean || Lvl 130 Champion - Cephrial
    Leader of Raiders Beneath the Shadow - Arkenstone
    What more does one need in LotRO than a lot of morale and a shield?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebenny View Post
    Did you even read my post? I literally wrote that didnt work cuz I tested it
    But then how do you get the idea, that we´ve to read it this way?
    Chance of responses to 100% to build a stack.
    Since nothing works?
    Or is ot fortification would be strange but possible. I will test it tommorow.

 

 

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