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  1. #1
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    Reactivation of Transfers Between Servers

    We know this is something being worked on - transfers were suspended due to an unspecified problem not a change in policy.

    We know there is a patch tomorrow that does not mention transfers.

    Does this mean no transfers until at least next week or is that fix something that doesn't require a patch?

    Can we have even a rough guess as to when transfers will be available again?

    Thanks.

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    Does this issue effect character copy onto Bullroarer also? Just... you know... it's this month and with the usual BR up time it's a day or two per week of late.

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    Unashamed bump.

    I am not complaining. I am not even asking for a fix "soon" (TM). Though that would be nice.

    But after more than a week it would be helpful to get an idea of whether this can be expected any day now, any week now, or after the expansion hits because you aren't going to work on it until then.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istvana View Post
    after more than a week it would be helpful to get an idea of whether this can be expected any day now, any week now, or after the expansion hits because you aren't going to work on it until then.

    Thanks.
    I need to know some info to plan my budget to spend my $$ on LOTRO.
    It affects my Minas Morgul pre-order.

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    Would really like to see these opened again. I play on multiple servers and transfer gear and items between the servers to set up my characters. I just leveled my Gladden hunter to 120 and need to get it all set up Am a bit squishy in level 115 Abyss gear.
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    If the transfers remain closed for the reasons I think, then that is a good thing.

    Perhaps in the future SSG could make items that are server bound. Stuff like gear obtained in raids.
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    ((If the transfers remain closed for the reasons I think, then that is a good thing.))

    Perhaps so, perhaps not. I won't mention the possible reasons either.

    But I think SSG should give us two things at an irreducible minimum.

    1. Information as to how long the suspension is likely to last. Even if it is very general. People have been logging in daily in hopes that the suspension will be over. Being told "maybe a week" or "maybe a month" would be bad news but at least it would be information.

    2. A chance, even if it is for a limited period, to make transfers. Quite a few people have relied on this and have significant assets on servers where they never would have put them if not for the knowledge that they could be transferred back at any time. People have paid significant money to transfer characters but not gotten around to transferring the assets to support them - reasonably relying on the ability to do so at any time. If SSG feels that resuming transfers as they used to be would be undesirable - surely they owe it to these players to give them a few days to rationalize things and put both characters and assets where they want them.

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    On Reddit someone said it apparently was due to characters dissappearing after transfer... If so it's understandable they took it down ASAP.
    Dream situation that is of course unlikely to happen: When it returns they've found a way to offer EU-US/vice versa server transfers (YES, I know it'll most likely never happen and I fully know the reason(s) why, but hey, one can dream?)

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    Having a character disappear and not be able to be restored on either the source server or the destination server would be a *very* bad thing and call for immediate action.

    None of my posts have disagreed with their actions or even asked for an immediate fix. They have asked for information on a possible time frame.

    Note that many of the problems people are having have nothing to do with *character* transfers. They relate to being cut off from equipment, gold, mithril coins, destiny points, skirmish marks and the like that for whatever reason they kept on servers that were no longer their primary server in reasonable expectation that they would be able to move them back and forth - quickly and with no charge. Assuming that if that feature was ever removed we would get advance notice.

    So if the primary or sole problem was *character* transfers - can they reactivate currency and shared storage transfers while they work on the character transfer problem? Or at least give a time frame, as in soon or probably not soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatty View Post
    On Reddit someone said it apparently was due to characters dissappearing after transfer... If so it's understandable they took it down ASAP.
    Dream situation that is of course unlikely to happen: When it returns they've found a way to offer EU-US/vice versa server transfers (YES, I know it'll most likely never happen and I fully know the reason(s) why, but hey, one can dream?)
    Never trust a Reddit.

    Correct, you know how to guess. Dream on about transfers because they will never happen. I remember clearly the reasons... Reasons stated years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istvana View Post
    Having a character disappear and not be able to be restored on either the source server or the destination server would be a *very* bad thing and call for immediate action.

    None of my posts have disagreed with their actions or even asked for an immediate fix. They have asked for information on a possible time frame.

    Note that many of the problems people are having have nothing to do with *character* transfers. They relate to being cut off from equipment, gold, mithril coins, destiny points, skirmish marks and the like that for whatever reason they kept on servers that were no longer their primary server in reasonable expectation that they would be able to move them back and forth - quickly and with no charge. Assuming that if that feature was ever removed we would get advance notice.

    So if the primary or sole problem was *character* transfers - can they reactivate currency and shared storage transfers while they work on the character transfer problem? Or at least give a time frame, as in soon or probably not soon.
    I don't know if that was the primary problem, maybe, maybe not. However if You look at this thread and post You will see that there obviosuly are other problmes now as well.

    Link: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...61#post7962161

    So how all this will turn out we don't know. Maybe SSG will decide to stop having Server Transfer of shared storage all together or for free, like they did with MC mailing. Simply to stop a few that have been abusing it. We can only wait and see I guess.

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    Lord.Funk - I can live without server transfers of shared storage and currency. I can live with them charging for the service as they have for character transfers.

    What I find unacceptable is the current lack of any information whatsoever about what is going on.

    If they are considering what to do they should tell us. If they are working on a fix they should tell us. Not knowing whether resources on another server will be available tomorrow, in a week, in a month or never is not the right place to be.

    If they do eliminate or charge for the service I think it is clear beyond doubt that they should first have an open-window letting those of us that used the transfer system (properly and in accordance with all rules) move things to where we want them without charge.

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    Question

    I spent significant amount of money and time making a 120 lvl toon at all US servers to get in touch more people and fun etc. So It would be nice to have an offical statement about future of this issue which affects my future spendings a lot in this game.

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    This transfer should have never been here in the first place. It's definitely from cheating category. I hope it's gone for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir1903 View Post
    I spent significant amount of money and time making a 120 lvl toon at all US servers to get in touch more people and fun etc. So It would be nice to have an offical statement about future of this issue which affects my future spendings a lot in this game.
    You spent a money on different servers creating a level 120 character,alright and you want to transfer now? Why would you transfer if you have top level character on each, besides that they gave you the official statement it was both in launcher news and you have here as well, read next time. They gave you enough already. Or how about the following , would you love if your character disappears entirely if you transfer, there is an issue ongoing currently. Patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabani View Post
    This transfer should have never been here in the first place. It's definitely from cheating category. I hope it's gone for good.
    It has some pretty good uses. I crafted a full set of gear for a returning player from a different server recently, to help them get back into the game. Without shared storage transfer, that wouldn't have been possible. Throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water is not a solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnenna View Post
    It has some pretty good uses. I crafted a full set of gear for a returning player from a different server recently, to help them get back into the game. Without shared storage transfer, that wouldn't have been possible. Throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water is not a solution.
    You did not helped them at all , Crafted armour is not needed for successful landscape progression for its ultra-laughably easy. He probably tossed the armour same day or the next. Shard storage is another simplification and lazy mode. You can have a friend and he/she can almost anything you desire as you did. Crafting is overrated these days clearly and you have not played when crafting was relevant and essential you ultimately thou cans't know the true meaning of my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyaerunanethiel View Post
    You did not helped them at all , Crafted armour is not needed for successful landscape progression for its ultra-laughably easy. He probably tossed the armour same day or the next. Shard storage is another simplification and lazy mode. You can have a friend and he/she can almost anything you desire as you did. Crafting is overrated these days clearly and you have not played when crafting was relevant and essential you ultimately thou cans't know the true meaning of my words.
    It works fine at level 75 when a player is still in level 65 gear. You've no idea what happened, just assumption on your part. I have played longer than you think, and I have played crafting the old way, even when the new way was around, going out to seek the shard droppers rather than run off to a skirm camp for the item, because the old way is more fun. It only changed, for those who stopped doing it the fun way. Just because you ran off to the skirmish camp as soon as you could . . . doesn't mean everyone else did.

    I'm not interested in your words - that's all they are . . . words, that often just serve to self enlighten yourself to every reader on the forum about how long you've been here while convincing yourself that it somehow devalues people that haven't been here quite as long. Not many people fall for it. Like I said . . . . just words.
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    ((You spent a money on different servers creating a level 120 character,alright and you want to transfer now? Why would you transfer if you have top level character on each, besides that they gave you the official statement it was both in launcher news and you have here as well, read next time. They gave you enough already. Or how about the following , would you love if your character disappears entirely if you transfer, there is an issue ongoing currently. Patience. ))

    Nice effort here - it isn't easy to fit so many mistakes into two lines even when one is trying to troll the people that are seriously commenting.

    The reasons why someone might want more than a single 120 on a server are rather obvious - but as likely as not the reference was to transferring items around so that each 120 had the money and items needed to support him or her in a proper high level lifestyle. The official statement said in effect "temporary suspension while we work on an unspecified issue". This was over a week ago. As quite a few of us have agreed by now it would help to know if this is being worked on or ignored until after the expansion. And whether there is any hope for unsuspending the feature in the near future. Plus most of the discussion relates to transfer of shared storage. Which is used a whole LOT more because it is free. I doubt if you can say with a straight face that transferring shared storage can wipe a character.

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    I currently play on three servers. If SSG decides to do away with (free) transfer of items between servers then that will seriously effect my style of play. I hope this is just a glitch of some kind that will eventually get fixed and not an excuse to do away with this service because it is being exploited somehow? Seriously, what does it matter where we spend the time to earn the items and eventually where we (the players) wish to put them as long it is all on the same account???

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    Quote Originally Posted by welden View Post
    Seriously, what does it matter where we spend the time to earn the items and eventually where we (the players) wish to put them as long it is all on the same account???
    Time and money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welden View Post
    I currently play on three servers. If SSG decides to do away with (free) transfer of items between servers then that will seriously effect my style of play. I hope this is just a glitch of some kind that will eventually get fixed and not an excuse to do away with this service because it is being exploited somehow? Seriously, what does it matter where we spend the time to earn the items and eventually where we (the players) wish to put them as long it is all on the same account???

    (Hoping for the best...)
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    The problem seems to be that currency caps could have been circumvented. Also people might have spent money on keys to rack up Embers etc. in excess of the caps.

    What would you like SSG to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballie View Post
    The problem seems to be that currency caps could have been circumvented. Also people might have spent money on keys to rack up Embers etc. in excess of the caps.

    What would you like SSG to do?
    Remove lootboxes from the game and keys from the store. Problem solved (on that part at least). Then everyone must play the game to earn rewards. The way it should be. Not buy lootboxes/keys and play the chance on how much they can collect.

    One of the whole incentives and goal to play a game, well at least in MMO's and MMO RPG's (maybe the biggest incentive to many, most, who knows how many) is to be able to aquire rewards from gameplay (yes there are other ivcentives too like lore, rp etc that might be the biggest reason to some, many, who knows how many). Doesn't matter if it's gear, cosmetics (skins) etc. It gives the player something to strive for, log in and play the game. Keep things like more storage space, more characters slots and such in the store. Not items that give incentive to acctually play the game. It's simply counter productive. While it might give some short-term profit it also creates players that will get bored fast as they have bought the items and have no more reason to play. Also nothing should ever be hidden behind a game of chance (lootboxes) that You pay real money for. Since then it's gambling for money and resembles a casino more than a game, gambling, not gaming. If have anything for sale it should be listed item and listed price so that a customers knows exactly what and how much he/she gets for his money. Then it's an honest trade and not gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord.Funk View Post
    Remove lootboxes from the game and keys from the store. Problem solved (on that part at least). Then everyone must play the game to earn rewards. The way it should be. Not buy lootboxes/keys and play the chance on how much they can collect.
    Funny thing, if they remove lootboxes, you don't see any significant changes. May be some people get gear little slower, but most of picture never changes. If people don't care about gear, they still don't care about gear. I seen enough players with 330 gear, trying complete end game content and complaing about that. From their side of view, only elitist player can do that daily. And when I tell them something like "Just rise your LI, you already done some quests in EM or Vales, you must have enough currency to buy 3-4 peice of 376 gear. Just put some essences into them" they just don't care. Like hunter who complain what he can kill one mob, but it's hard to kill 3-4 of them. Some people play that game, but don't earn rewards. Same thing happens during skrimish event on this spring. Some players get their 120 level with festival quests, and have pre-Mordor gear. They try T3 skrimish, and boss just one-shot them. And some skrimish champions one-shot them. Because they even don't have 100K morale, I even talk about how many armor they have.

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    I would be delighted if they went back to a subscription model and eliminated lootboxes. Well, I would be if the game survived and prospered which is not exactly a sure thing. Until then we have microtransactions and keys seem to sell.

    But the thread is about transfers between servers. Character transfers or item/currency transfers or both.

    Still no hint of information about timing on this.

    I can see why depending on what the issue was they may not have wanted to identify it. I can see how they may not have decided what to do or how long it will take.

    It is not obvious to me why they have said nothing whatsoever - not even "we are still working on it and we do not know when the situation will change". If such was the case.

 

 

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