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    Lightbulb Memorializing Our Lost Players

    Here on Landroval, a well-beloved player has recently passed away.

    In his memory, I have a suggestion:

    Perhaps we could pay LP or something to memorialize departed players somewhere in the game? It would add a lot of comfort to those of us who would like to honor deceased friends.
    Forth, Courserrim!

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    Beautiful idea. This can be a decoration item for personal house. With a custom option to fill in a character name, so it will display chosen name. Similar thing exists on Bounder Bounty plaques to commemorate players from different servers - same design prototype can be made as new decoration item, with custom option to fill in your own chosen name.

    I am VERY strongly opposed to such memorializing taking place in "public spaces" in Lotro. But in personal house spaces, sure let people do what they want on their own private space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herwegur View Post
    Beautiful idea. This can be a decoration item for personal house. With a custom option to fill in a character name, so it will display chosen name. Similar thing exists on Bounder Bounty plaques to commemorate players from different servers - same design prototype can be made as new decoration item, with custom option to fill in your own chosen name.

    I am VERY strongly opposed to such memorializing taking place in "public spaces" in Lotro. But in personal house spaces, sure let people do what they want on their own private space.
    This is a great idea. I agree about the public spaces--that should be reserved for the most iconic folks we've lost and very subtle, like the Nimoy memorial. I love that one! The private memorial would have a lot of options, inside, outside, kins could do it...

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    I get what you are saying however, there would need to be some way of verifying that the player in question has actually passed.
    I can see some idiot that takes a dislike to another player and decides to "memorialize" the player that is disliked, and then the disliked player starts getting reported for someone else supposedly using their account.
    There is always someone that will cause trouble.

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    I think those are all nice ideas and worth supporting, but I fear the realization of a memorial has a lot of tripwires.

    The topic of digital inheritance regulations has only started yet. There are the first few ideas, but most digital companies haven't really adopted to the idea that their customers could actually die. This will IMO even bring up the topic of licenses, i.e. can a LOTRO account be handed over to a heir? Does it have to be handed over?

    In terms of an ingame memorial there can be several issues. Can such a memorial be created without the consent of the heirs? What if the deceased person opposed a memorial in her/his last will?
    Is this country dependent? How would SSG even verify that a person actually deceased? (assuming the worst case that people could fake their own or someone elses death...).
    One could even see the number of potentially required memorials as a problem, unless access is very restrictive (lots of LP needed).

    One feasible solution could probably be to have graves as yard decoration items. Putting a name on them might be a problem (see above), but the kin will know who it is about.
    Of course we have to be aware that there will be people that use the same item for fun in their houses (which would even result in "funny" names on graves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herwegur View Post
    Beautiful idea. This can be a decoration item for personal house. With a custom option to fill in a character name, so it will display chosen name. Similar thing exists on Bounder Bounty plaques to commemorate players from different servers - same design prototype can be made as new decoration item, with custom option to fill in your own chosen name.

    I am VERY strongly opposed to such memorializing taking place in "public spaces" in Lotro. But in personal house spaces, sure let people do what they want on their own private space.
    Good idea but the custom option won't work. The decoration item with the inscribed name would have to be pushed out to all players in an update in order to be visible to them, never mind the code changes needed to push the inscribed object data to the server. Then, of course, these would need to be reviewed to block memorials to Heywood Jablome, Harry Paratestacles, or worse.

    I would suggest creating new interior spaces in each of the racial starter towns and selling custom memorial decorations to place in them via the LOTRO Market. That makes it a less obtrusive public space memorial. You won't have to enter the building for standard game play.

    Also note there is already a memorial to a LOTRO player in the Eyes and Guard tavern.
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    It’s a good idea, and I like it, but there is just way too much of an opportunity for mischief.

    It’s a classic case of why we can’t have nice things.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
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    While I think it is a great idea to remember the players who have passed (I have one that passed on Riddermark just before the merges, her characters are still there and will be for life....), I don't think we would need to see a memorial in-game. Before you know it, we would see memorials popping up all over the place, possibly for players who have died years ago.

    I don't think it's a good idea. IF however something like this IS done, I would ask it to be the Bree graveyard, not far out of town on the way to Trestlebridge. Perhaps a single monument, with a list of names that can simply be added to from time to time..... sort of like the list of names on the Michel Delving bounder's statue.

    I do think however, there are too many ways to abuse the system (someone could indeed just be submitting a bunch of names), so one must tread carefully. If you were to charge $50 for the privilege and work for a name to be added, that might help.... if someone really passed away that had a lot of friends... someone setting up a gofundme to collect $5 donations from a few people would work, because their friends would easily part with 5 bucks.
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    signed!
    i believe that a heroic monument memorial is a great idea!
    no, not a grave look like thing! but a majestic monument wher more than one names can be added on it!
    i dont believe in the thought that someone would mock by using a heroic monument.......
    worst think they would do is writting his/hers own name on it
    but if a grave, with a sectable name is introdused i know many people that would like to mock others
    (including myself among them)
    now about the funny names.........
    i often have arguments, in game with other players, here in the forum, and even with GMs about the names
    people r using on their ingame characters........., once, while talking with a gm about the name of his toon,
    got muted from world chat......... i was not able to write in world chat n i dont believe that this was a bug........
    SSG SHOULD be more strict about the name usage to be according the lore n force players to use names,
    suitable to the game's lore! if they do this they will be no funny names!
    20 years lotr enthousiast, 11 years lotro player, lifetimer, Loyal member of the Spartans Kinship, now in Evernight imigrants from Eldar

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    Like others have said its hard to verify each claim of lost life is legit and was a LOTRO community member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosdracir View Post
    Good idea but the custom option won't work. The decoration item with the inscribed name would have to be pushed out to all players in an update in order to be visible to them, never mind the code changes needed to push the inscribed object data to the server. Then, of course, these would need to be reviewed to block memorials to Heywood Jablome, Harry Paratestacles, or worse.

    I would suggest creating new interior spaces in each of the racial starter towns and selling custom memorial decorations to place in them via the LOTRO Market. That makes it a less obtrusive public space memorial. You won't have to enter the building for standard game play.

    Also note there is already a memorial to a LOTRO player in the Eyes and Guard tavern.
    You failed to mention Mike Hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugongrod View Post
    You failed to mention Mike Hunt.
    I was avoiding the low hanging fruit.
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