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  1. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkye View Post

    But the multi boxers should be perma banned... we have some on my server and is quite sick the bold middle finger to regular playstyle only tlerated because a flaw in the T&C. The rule breaking thing imo with multi boxing is can help you far quest items looboxes and infamy easier usng more than 1 account essentially boosting which is against the T&C. Would be nice if a moderator can come and investigate this.
    Multiboxers are allowed by SSG! I Reported them many times got answer from GM :" While we understand that the act of multi-boxing, especially in the Ettenmoors, is not very sportsman-like it is not considered a violation."

    There you go...

  2. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maryam View Post
    Absolutely no reaons on Ark like the spider boxer, or the spider boxer working with the Craid, or a warg boxer plus the spider boxer, or a craid when there's four Freeps, etc, because Kate saw some low ranks and/or no mits get blown up.
    They werent low rank creeps that got blown up. Unless you consider rank 12+ low ranks. Theres no reason on ark to have freep boxers and yet they are there.
    "You can't have your Kate and Eat her too!"

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  3. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by mikkye View Post
    The thing is what else will those creeps do? log off go quest for 60 infamy ? Another issue I failed to mention is the lack of pve in pvp environment.

    If creeps could have a pve that can take 2-3 hours to do such as skirmish type instance rewarding some type of currency 500-1500 infamy depending on tier there would be no such need to sit and camp how ever many freeps online, but since there is no alternative besides 60-00 repetitive dailies for creeps they are forced to do this if they want to continue to play lotro a game they love and consider heir hobby.

    The pvp really just needs to be focused for 1-2 updates 24.? add more ques possibly creep instances + tone and modernize a lot of creep & freep abilities this year.




    But the multi boxers should be perma banned... we have some on my server and is quite sick the bold middle finger to regular playstyle only tlerated because a flaw in the T&C. The rule breaking thing imo with multi boxing is can help you far quest items looboxes and infamy easier usng more than 1 account essentially boosting which is against the T&C. Would be nice if a moderator can come and investigate this.
    And this is what we had back in the heyday when creeps wanted luminous Delving stones every bit as much as freeps. It's been just amazing to watch incompetent people dismantle everything that was good about the moors over the years.

    Also, agreed on the multiboxers. Scum of the Earth. Only healtaggers bother me more.
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  4. #129
    I can't tell you how much I enjoy a glass fire-line build with maxed crit and mastery, and then dropping combustion and scathing mockery on top of our spider boxer!

    Boxers, on either side, should be banned.
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  5. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Kate00 View Post
    They werent low rank creeps that got blown up. Unless you consider rank 12+ low ranks. Theres no reason on ark to have freep boxers and yet they are there.
    Ok, then glass cannons caught without their rows of heal tags. The only regular Freep boxer on Ark is Infidelity, a hunter with a captain, Mini, and RK that mostly just serve to keep the Hunter alive, which doesn't even compare to the impact of the spider boxer, or as of yesterday, the 15 (plus?) defiler boxer.
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  6. #131
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    The exploit in multi boxing is you gather mats complete quest and farm rank absurdly faster by boosting.. That is the exploit.


    Some people multi box the quest items then sell on old buy gold websites because they just so corrupt.

    Some papers ask the multi boxer to follow them to help just for over kill

  7. #132
    1 question,

    would multiboxing like this be allowed in ANY pvp game?

    of course not, LOTRO is not a "real" pvp game.

    pvMp in lotro was, is, and will always be a sideshow minigame.

    100% full time creeps that play lotro for pvp only?

    priceless
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  8. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by subadar View Post
    1 question,

    would multiboxing like this be allowed in ANY pvp game?

    of course not, LOTRO is not a "real" pvp game.

    pvMp in lotro was, is, and will always be a sideshow minigame.

    100% full time creeps that play lotro for pvp only?

    priceless
    "Give it up man pvp is dead."
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    Quote Originally Posted by subadar View Post
    LOTRO is not a "real" pvp game.

    pvMp in lotro was, is, and will always be a sideshow minigame.

    100% full time creeps that play lotro for pvp only?

    priceless
    A mini game that you regularly participate in? Weren't you a full time creep before freeps got op? priceless lol
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  10. #135
    sure i play all aspects of the game, why woudn't i? i think i play pvmp 6-7 hours a week ?

    but your selective memory is kicking in again, landy freeps were outnumbered 3/1 at least by creeps at the time so sure i'll freep to make fights

    i'll also creep to make fights. funny how y'all loved me leading craids till you met me running fraids.

    sounds like ark is just the place to be! not
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    Quote Originally Posted by subadar View Post
    but your selective memory is kicking in again, landy freeps were outnumbered 3/1 at least by creeps at the time so sure i'll freep to make fights
    sounds like ark is just the place to be! not
    I'm just gonna drop this here from the landy pvp forums for your Tuesday night pvp .....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicka View Post
    shame the freeps wouldn't leave GV last night. got bored, flipped a keep and farmed OR.
    and the freeps had numbers over the creeps.
    maybe another day, y'all take care now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate00 View Post
    I'm just gonna drop this here from the landy pvp forums for your Tuesday night pvp .....
    After your rank 15 on your defiler, you will learn to play dps or not ..?..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnumum View Post
    After your rank 15 on your defiler, you will learn to play dps or not ..?..?
    I'm not sure. I have a warg and a low ranked spider and reaver. They are ok to play and I do sometimes. I'd like to say I'll keep playing defiler after rank 15 but I really dont know.
    "You can't have your Kate and Eat her too!"

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  14. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Kate00 View Post
    I'm just gonna drop this here from the landy pvp forums for your Tuesday night pvp .....
    yeah...i'm not online every tuesday night anymore, that experiment is over. kind of gave up on trying to get guys like your hunter friend and his buds in groups. so what little pvp landy had is kind of withering like the game.

    since most you trolls do nothing to group up with or help others in the moors, all i can say is enjoy ! at least i tried.

    the handfull of freeps like myself that enjoyed making groups and fighting creeps are over it. i can only speak for myself but the Landy creep zerg is gonna go hungry.

    so i guess thats the real reason why the action is bad, no one really plays anymore on any server but ark, and apparently it cant really support good action either , but having said that,

    i'll still pop out on my creep/freep whenever i feel like it, till the servers go dark or they reboot pvmp on the legendaries or something.....

    11 years was a good run for any game. /shrug
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  15. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by sapienze View Post
    "Give it up man pvp is dead."

    I'm happy to see my advice was sound advice.




    Quote Originally Posted by subadar View Post
    yeah...i'm not online every tuesday night anymore, that experiment is over. kind of gave up on trying to get guys like your hunter friend and his buds in groups. so what little pvp landy had is kind of withering like the game.

    since most you trolls do nothing to group up with or help others in the moors, all i can say is enjoy ! at least i tried.

    the handfull of freeps like myself that enjoyed making groups and fighting creeps are over it. i can only speak for myself but the Landy creep zerg is gonna go hungry.

    so i guess thats the real reason why the action is bad, no one really plays anymore on any server but ark, and apparently it cant really support good action either , but having said that,

    i'll still pop out on my creep/freep whenever i feel like it, till the servers go dark or they reboot pvmp on the legendaries or something.....

    11 years was a good run for any game. /shrug

    Btw, Did you just call out Kate and say she was a troll? Megalito I thought you knew better.
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    PVP player: I'm not a troll

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    Some freep armor @120 would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauld View Post
    Some freep armor @120 would be appreciated.
    Asking for PvP armour in PvP... We are setting the bar high here.

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    Last edited by galrodan; Mar 24 2019 at 07:30 AM.

  19. #144
    The real reason PVP is bad? Read every post Snowlock ever made on the state of Pvp and what needed to be done. SSG-Turbine did the opposite. Now you have what he predicted.

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    The fact this thread is so hot vs how long t3 progression thread should show pvp is loved by more players than raiding

  21. #146
    Imagine calling it Progression thread, when T3 is cleared 24 hours after release and then you have the raid on farm for a year. That's a bad joke, not progression.

    Remember when it took several months to fully clear Orthanc on T2CM? There would be more interest in raiding if there were actual progression.

    Now I'm not bringing this up to discredit you. There indeed is a big interest in PvP still, even though it's been neglected for years. Community driven sandbox World PvP is a successful concept. One of the reasons people want Vanilla WoW back.
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  22. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerxes2007 View Post
    The real reason PVP is bad? Read every post Snowlock ever made on the state of Pvp and what needed to be done. SSG-Turbine did the opposite. Now you have what he predicted.
    Wut! This guy may have been one of the biggest single detriments to lotRO PvMP there ever was.


    The soap box he stood on the longest was being adamant that pve end game raid gear should inexorably tied to pvp's success. Today it is the largest hindrance to Freep viability in the Moors. Now its been four months plus and finally a small percentage of Freeps feel comfortable enough to venture into the Moors and not hugs GV steps. Four months! Why? Because he maintained an active Moors was dependent on the leadership of Kins. Kinships raiding for end game gear. Though this was partially a truth in the past, it hasn't been so for years.

    There were some things he advocated for that were sensible but for him there was always and underlying benefit to either his mantras or his chosen playstyle. Essentially hounding these forums and Turbine to make the pvp in his own idea, which was a singular benefit that hardly produced any long term growth.

    Example: A mega thread about the removal of Creep maps. In this he went on for weeks and pull every punch possible to have them removed while along maintaining Freeps should continue to have mounts.

    Example: Advocating for Hunter buffs while the Hunter was at its strongest point ever in this game. Why? Because the old dog was reluctant to leave his red line trait tree which was the closest to the old original Hunter before trait trees.

    Example: Advocating for Warg nerfs all the while a Warg being the squishiest of any class in our pvp on Freep or Creep. Why? Because he wanted to stay stealthed in redline and complained the Warg sprint was depriving him of his chosen playstyle.

    Example. Dissenting to pvp gear gained at GV thru game play in the Moors. Claiming this gear was a cause of lag while hiding his true agendas.

    Snowlock the player: Coming to Grams with a raid hiding behind a rock exploiting the one shotters los. Target focusing any Creep who came out of the gate. Knowing full well it didn't offer any long term pvp. Most of the greenies said screw this and left the Moors to never return.

    Thinking full domination was the key to sustain active pvp and when this couldn't happen Snowlock was mia. Yes MIA.


    Snowlock could be here right now to refute anything I say with rebuttals but instead he became more bitter over time about how this game has changed, now he can't. Why? Because he would rather argue incessantly with other forum goers, to the point of throwing out insult after insult until one day the CM put his posting to an end. Did LotRO lose something at this point? I can say it did. His knowledge of the game and its pvp is vast and when he chose to engage in a sensible manner the discourse had value. When he chose to be a smart ### many thread were locked.


    Snowlock's predictions weren't predicated on his thoughts of how we got to this point. They were inevitable regardless of his thoughts and post's relating to the PvMP.


    The real reason PvMP is bad is because of one single factor. This is lag. Snowlock knew this and even in knowing this was a staunch supporter of the things that produced this lag. Legendary items and the rows of buffs they created are the main reason pvp lags compared to the early days. Though I can say, in fairness he knew Audacity creates problems as well.

    Snowlock's idea of pvp was to have his opponents out on the map with no option to tactically retreat, regroup or reestablish. Had the guy only incorporated Burgs for scouts his experience would have been far more fruitful and engaging. His idea of pvp was to deny his opponent any semblance of pvp balance by way of player feedback with Dev interest. Hoping he would shine the brightest and dim any other offered concepts. Had Snowlock looked at PvMP objectively he may have made a difference. Kind of sad really.
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  23. #148
    A single line name drop of Snowlock illicits a wall of text of bitterness and anger. LOL. Sounds about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapienze View Post
    Wut! This guy may


    The real reason PvMP is bad is because of one single factor. This is lag. Snowlock knew this and even in knowing this was a staunch supporter of the things that produced this lag. Legendary items and the rows of buffs they created are the main reason pvp lags compared to the early days. Though I can say, in fairness he knew Audacity creates problems as well.

    You are right at all of your post but i think biggest problem is the bad support from ssg at pvmp in any way.items,bans,just develop work from the lag.lag is lag, but the 0 support on us is 0.items?exploids?why the freeps need to farm raid gear to play pvp?the official lotro style from 2007 was with pvmp items.with the rank use. very good items only for pvmp. why i cant have audacity against the creeps at 120?with 120 lvl gear?is so hard?

    ssg dont want to support the players who pay to play pvmp at freep side.they dont care.
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  25. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerxes2007 View Post
    A single line name drop of Snowlock illicits a wall of text of bitterness and anger. LOL. Sounds about right.
    No anger in my post. Failed projection?

    The facts are clearly known. Perhaps, if one took the time to review his posting and kept a perspective about the topics then anyone could clearly see his bias.
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