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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate00 View Post
    which is the way it should be.
    yet most creeps can mit and dps. Freeps dont have that option now.

  2. #27
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    Nice to see Ethrildar back on the Forums crying.....something must be balanced slightly better.....

    TRAIT MITS ETH...lolololz

  3. #28
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    I lost 63 games today with 52 traps and so what ?? I had fun lol

  4. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavileRow View Post
    Nice to see Ethrildar back on the Forums crying.....something must be balanced slightly better.....

    TRAIT MITS ETH...lolololz
    >>Capped mits
    >>Take 250% of my morale pool from a BA clicking one button then running away

    I'm not sure a lack of mits (50% fw/oc) is the issue when you can click a single button on a ranged class and wreck any melee whilst literally afk.
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  5. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    >>Capped mits
    >>Take 250% of my morale pool from a BA clicking one button then running away

    I'm not sure a lack of mits (50% fw/oc) is the issue when you can click a single button on a ranged class and wreck any melee whilst literally afk.

    So according to your logic a burg (melee) hitting CDG then HIPs is ok, and a Hunter (ranged) using HS On wargs (melee) is not ok..

    I get the point you are trying to make here, and very few people disagree that RIGHT NOW and possibly with raid gear some BA skills are scaled incorrectly. However, why were so many freeps silent when it favored your side. Plenty of creeps have been outspoken about BA damage, and the FOTM BAs that have ensued. It affects our experience in the moors as well when 20+ BAs camp GV and the melee classes are left sparring on the sidelines. However many freeps, yourself included, have called for sweeping nerfs to monster classes before the final balance point has even been experienced. Fix the obvious skills and wait for raid gear. If they unnecessarily nerf other classes now, they WILL NOT revert those changes and you all know that. If the average monster of any given class is competitive now, they will likely fall to barely competitive against raid gear.
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  6. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    >>Capped mits
    >>Take 250% of my morale pool from a BA clicking one button then running away

    I'm not sure a lack of mits (50% fw/oc) is the issue when you can click a single button on a ranged class and wreck any melee whilst literally afk.
    Just get mits, bro. That's what you told Creeps over and over again.
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  7. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spilo View Post
    Just get mits, bro. That's what you told Creeps over and over again.
    OOF

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  8. #33
    For the most part, balance is spot on right now. 1v1s against monster players of similar skill levels are very close in all out fights... flip a coin on who wins. That's the way it should be. BA traps are still kind of over-kill, but maybe CdG and HS still are, too. In any case, much more fun and challenging where we are right now. New raid's loot will make freeps who have it OP.
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  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Spilo View Post
    Just get mits, bro. That's what you told Creeps over and over again.
    Yes lol , just trait mits ....he just didn’t get it then nor is he likely to get it now

  10. #35
    The entire thread started by a fotm ezmoder who doesn’t like being killed . Players like this make me sick , no wonder the game is dead

  11. #36
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    so much easier when you can play free ...

  12. #37
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    Follow up

    I haven't heard any talks of how freeps will be geared with raid gear so here is my input.


    Atm on beta there is 3 slots on every piece of armour from even t1 raid gear the armour value is quite nice and the set bonus will help you achieve reasonable mastery/crit levels even if you slot vitality/crit def/mits.

    BA traps were modified to, it looks like -50% dmg of what it currently is and that's before mitigations apply which will further reduce the actual damage per tick.

    With all this being considered I believe in my opinion once any freep gets t1 raid gear and hopefully own enough essences to put in the new amount of slots provided you can have reasonable pvp stats for the ettenmoors for either solo or fraid'ing. All we have to do now is wait it out in the future if things stay how is on Beta moors should be fun.

    One last point... @Vastin did say after class changes they will focus on pvp its been about 6 months or so he is nearly done with bear and the burglar is next right after. So my bet would be sometime in January or February we will see @Vastin working on pvp, I know its been a long road but so far he has told us the truth and done what he said he would. So I will keep posting the situation from my POV on threads I read and when he is done with class changes we can work with him step by step to ensure both sides have an enjoyable pvp experience
    Last edited by mikkye; Yesterday at 01:27 AM. Reason: error

  13. #38

    Thumbs up Just a thought......

    Quote Originally Posted by mikkye View Post
    I haven't heard any talks of how freeps will be geared with raid gear so here is my input.


    Atm on beta there is 3 slots on every piece of armour from even t1 raid gear the armour value is quite nice and the set bonus will help you achieve reasonable mastery/crit levels even if you slot vitality/crit def/mits.

    BA traps were modified to, it looks like -50% dmg of what it currently is and that's before mitigations apply which will further reduce the actual damage per tick.

    With all this being considered I believe in my opinion once any freep gets t1 raid gear and hopefully own enough essences to put in the new amount of slots provided you can have reasonable pvp stats for the ettenmoors for either solo or fraid'ing. All we have to do now is wait it out in the future if things stay how is on Beta moors should be fun.

    One last point... @Vastin did say after class changes they will focus on pvp its been about 6 months or so he is nearly done with bear and the burglar is next right after. So my bet would be sometime in January or February we will see @Vastin working on pvp, I know its been a long road but so far he has told us the truth and done what he said he would. So I will keep posting the situation from my POV on threads I read and when he is done with class changes we can work with him step by step to ensure both sides have an enjoyable pvp experience
    ^^ these changes will bring the goal posts closer together no doubt, lets be honest its a fact that creeps need to be the underdogs for the moors to work its always been that way, in mean time while the wait for the new gear to arrive, is it not better to switch from creep to freep when you see a gv camp accumulating, maybe create a numbers push see how things develope ? as a warg that played 115 and really enjoyed the challenge i now feel pushed away from the class i loved to play, i dusted off old freep purely due to the fact my warg is just to strong current state and not enjoyable, even if few creep vets go freep to create a push could be all we need in current state.

    Btw alot of creeps have earned the bragging rights of the current creep state and i do understand why they would stay creep you got to respect that .

  14. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnimeepouch View Post
    ^^ these changes will bring the goal posts closer together no doubt, lets be honest its a fact that creeps need to be the underdogs for the moors to work its always been that way, in mean time while the wait for the new gear to arrive, is it not better to switch from creep to freep when you see a gv camp accumulating, maybe create a numbers push see how things develope ? as a warg that played 115 and really enjoyed the challenge i now feel pushed away from the class i loved to play, i dusted off old freep purely due to the fact my warg is just to strong current state and not enjoyable, even if few creep vets go freep to create a push could be all we need in current state.

    Btw alot of creeps have earned the bragging rights of the current creep state and i do understand why they would stay creep you got to respect that .

    Yes no doubt about that mad respect to the creeps who never flipped sides even after 115 for sure. The big issue though I see for freeps is the Lotro intro to moors doesn't teach the new players or inexperienced about Orc craft/fell wrought mitigation types and if someone enters moors without that at a reasonable number they expose themselves to triple dmg intake or value of crit def stats also leave themselves to heavy burst damage. This no intro on how to gear for moors means freeps are taking double sometimes triple the damage intake while they come in expecting T1 mits to be enough like on landscape resulting in them dying even with a healer on them or simply standing no chance.

    You can be 12 freeps pushing vs 12 creeps but chances are the creeps will always win because they can easily 3/3/3/3 and survive descently while 6/12 of those freeps usually more have perhaps 15-20% OC/FW mitigation percentage. This truth is something that is a real problem unless pvp gear is inserted or mit values lowered by 25% so can be easier reached untill then we will always depend on raid gear and sadly that's still only about 40% of players that will get that gear let alone have the wisdom to stack mits cit def and morale vs trying cap mastery crit in moors.

    In short chances are if there are 12 creeps 10/12 will be good corruptions and skills but its its 12 freeps only 50% will be proper pvp geared.
    Last edited by mikkye; Yesterday at 11:14 AM.

  15. #40
    New pvp sets or even past tense(rehashed) sets combined with free moors entry is prity much the best pvp fix they could make, its prehistoric to grind in pve area to be able to pvp, maybe its ssg way to slowly suffocate pvp without anyone having to be the front man and take the bullet for closing pvp, bit like going to work been told nothing for you to do but come back tomorrow to hear same thing in time you stop going ......place closes you just accept it.

 

 
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