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    Linux mint LOTRO Client please

    Linux mint is without a doubt the best IOS i have come across so far. however in order to play LOTRO you need Crossover AFAIK. which does support the Linux Community. However i guess its a choice really depending on your budget. for me i would rather spend the $60 a month or $500 USD for their lifetime account on LOTRO to support SST to get a direct client from the game. in all its what you prefer to do.

    here is the last post i made regarding the topic found here:

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...oblem-on-Linux

    here is crossover:

    https://www.codeweavers.com/store

    I love LOTRO, plan to play it forever. i also love Linux. So this is merely a suggestion and me contemplating where to spend my $$. I do plan to spend the $500 USD around Xmas for the lifetime of Crossover. But it just means i wont have the budget for much else until after that time to spend here. anyhow i hope everyone is enjoying the game. Thanks!


    Update: PlayOnLinux will run STO and GW1 so even more food for thought on what would get LOTRO to find a way LOL

    Edit: working on a fix so crossover isn't needed. will post in a couple hours.
    Last edited by Bronstone; Oct 13 2018 at 04:38 AM.

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    Linux Fix found i posted in the previous LOTRO thread here ---> https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...96#post7875796

    No need for crossover, no need for client. i am hoping to have no issues i will post in previous forum once i am in game...

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    I have Written a Complete Guide on how to play LOTRO on Linux Mint. i know the Dev's have a lot of work to do. but my request has changed from asking for a LOTRO Client to offering a Linux Mint Sub Forum.

    Here is my link to the guide in the forums, https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-on-Linux-Mint

    If anyone Needs any type of help please Refer to my guide thread and i will try to help the best i can, Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronstone View Post
    Linux mint is without a doubt the best IOS i have come across so far. however in order to play LOTRO you need Crossover AFAIK. which does support the Linux Community. However i guess its a choice really depending on your budget. for me i would rather spend the $60 a month or $500 USD for their lifetime account on LOTRO to support SST to get a direct client from the game. in all its what you prefer to do.
    First off. I like Linux. I love Linux. it's a great OS, and I use it on dozens of servers I support for a variety of reasons....

    .....but. Yes you knew the "but" was coming.

    Linux on the desktop changes too frequently for any organization to effectively support it.

    15 years ago or so, before Red Hat went commercial.... Red Hat was the go to Linux distro for most people. 12 years ago or so, SUSE was the most popular distribution. Over time, it changed to the Debian-based Ubuntu which took the crown at around 2008/2009 or so....and subsequently to Mint which up till last year was most definitely the most popular distro out there.

    Now, one of the most popular distributions is Manjaro, which is based on Arch linux, and Mint/Ubuntu are falling slightly behind in popularity. Now, on the above distros named in over the last 15 years or so..... there are 4 different methods of installing packages, and 4 (one would argue 5 as Mint and Ubuntu do use different ones) completely different repositories. This is a problem for any commercial environment trying to support Linux for their software. And although some companies specialize in this, and can support their software on whatever linux distro they desire, this is not practical for most game companies.

    The BEST way forward for gaming on Linux is actually the way Steam does it. It has a linux compatible client, and many games are directly playable on ANY Linux distribution (at least the major ones), as long as the game is of course compatible. Of course the game itself must be made SteamOS compatible, which essentially is Linux, and which means it can play on any Linux that can install Steam..... and that alone is just too much hassle for SSG. Mind you, they can't even create a 64-bit version of the Windows client and have supposedly been working on this for the last 2 years or so - and it is being worked on by ONE person because that is all they have..... What makes you think that they would even be to dedicate any amount of time, let alone actually create a client that runs properly on linux?

    And as distributions change, and the popularity of one distribution fades away and makes place for another type..... so must also move along the support of this distro. Although playing a Windows based game is fine on Linux if you can make it work, there is just too little market interest to really make it work. No one is going to pay $60 a month for a linux client, if a full Windows 10 license can be picked up for under $99, and it happens to run Lotro quite perfectly.
    Moved from Riddermark to Arkenstone on 9/29/2015!
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    Disclaimer: The definition of "Soon™" is based solely on SSG's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "Soon™" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maartena View Post
    First off. I like Linux. I love Linux. it's a great OS, and I use it on dozens of servers I support for a variety of reasons....

    .....but. Yes you knew the "but" was coming.

    Linux on the desktop changes too frequently for any organization to effectively support it.

    15 years ago or so, before Red Hat went commercial.... Red Hat was the go to Linux distro for most people. 12 years ago or so, SUSE was the most popular distribution. Over time, it changed to the Debian-based Ubuntu which took the crown at around 2008/2009 or so....and subsequently to Mint which up till last year was most definitely the most popular distro out there.

    Now, one of the most popular distributions is Manjaro, which is based on Arch linux, and Mint/Ubuntu are falling slightly behind in popularity. Now, on the above distros named in over the last 15 years or so..... there are 4 different methods of installing packages, and 4 (one would argue 5 as Mint and Ubuntu do use different ones) completely different repositories. This is a problem for any commercial environment trying to support Linux for their software. And although some companies specialize in this, and can support their software on whatever linux distro they desire, this is not practical for most game companies.

    The BEST way forward for gaming on Linux is actually the way Steam does it. It has a linux compatible client, and many games are directly playable on ANY Linux distribution (at least the major ones), as long as the game is of course compatible. Of course the game itself must be made SteamOS compatible, which essentially is Linux, and which means it can play on any Linux that can install Steam..... and that alone is just too much hassle for SSG. Mind you, they can't even create a 64-bit version of the Windows client and have supposedly been working on this for the last 2 years or so - and it is being worked on by ONE person because that is all they have..... What makes you think that they would even be to dedicate any amount of time, let alone actually create a client that runs properly on linux?

    And as distributions change, and the popularity of one distribution fades away and makes place for another type..... so must also move along the support of this distro. Although playing a Windows based game is fine on Linux if you can make it work, there is just too little market interest to really make it work. No one is going to pay $60 a month for a linux client, if a full Windows 10 license can be picked up for under $99, and it happens to run Lotro quite perfectly.

    did you read my guide? i can log into the game with the 64 bit client just the store and the dx10/11 are disabled.... other than that it works. but i see where you are coming from. yup as of 10 seconds ago i was in game and running around Bree
    Last edited by Bronstone; Oct 16 2018 at 08:11 PM.

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    Slackware .99 for the win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronstone View Post
    with the 64 bit client
    There is no 64 bit client. Yet.... Lotro is 32bit.

    just the store and the dx10/11 are disabled....
    What good is running the game in Linux if you can't even use the store? That limits the game to NON-Vip players, as you can't even spend the monthly 500 LP you get.
    Moved from Riddermark to Arkenstone on 9/29/2015!
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    Disclaimer: The definition of "Soon™" is based solely on SSG's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "Soon™" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

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    Ya know if it helps 1 person to switch from windows to Linux I am happy. As for the store it could work or not in future wine patches all they need to do is switch to an external browser to shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronstone View Post
    Ya know if it helps 1 person to switch from windows to Linux I am happy. As for the store it could work or not in future wine patches all they need to do is switch to an external browser to shop
    Not having a working store is a big fat FAIL for me.

    No thanks.....
    Moved from Riddermark to Arkenstone on 9/29/2015!
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    Disclaimer: The definition of "Soon™" is based solely on SSG's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "Soon™" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maartena View Post
    Not having a working store is a big fat FAIL for me.

    No thanks.....
    To each their own but like i said if someone finds value in the guide then i am happy. you might not which is ok. the store isn't a huge deal i mean its a store.... Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronstone View Post
    To each their own but like i said if someone finds value in the guide then i am happy. you might not which is ok. the store isn't a huge deal i mean its a store.... Lmao
    FYI the store works fine in recent versions of wine-devel and wine-staging. The 3.0.3 version is too far behind to have the Awesomium certificate fixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilnoviel View Post
    FYI the store works fine in recent versions of wine-devel and wine-staging. The 3.0.3 version is too far behind to have the Awesomium certificate fixes.
    That's Awesome!! can you explain how to update it in the guide? or this post i would really like to know how. i wasn't trying to be hostile or anything i am just looking to help people. i hate windows it took a lot of work to get LOTRO working on mint. some of us don't have a lot of options when living on a limited income. so any help would be great! that is why i asked for just a sub forum on the main forum pages so people can share info on the subject. when looking into Linux there isn't a lot of info on how to get started and playing LOTRO. I Like Mint because it is easy to use. i didn't want to sound like i know everything i don't. i am just looking to help. that is all...

    EDIT: if someone can write a more current guide to Linux and LOTRO that would be cool too! i would be happy to take mine down!
    Last edited by Bronstone; Oct 17 2018 at 12:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maartena View Post
    ...No one is going to pay $60 a month for a linux client, if a full Windows 10 license can be picked up for under $99, and it happens to run Lotro quite perfectly. ...
    That could change in 2020 though if Microsoft goes through with making Windows 10 (the only supported windows then, except for win 8 that have extended support until 2022 I think) a monthly subscription to use Windows 10. A.K.A. DaaS/Desktop as a Service. Leaked information has shown that they are putting all the tools and pieces in place for that. Some think (hopes) it will only apply to businesses using windows 10, while others think it might be first targeting business users but gradually also be turned into subscription for home users. Time will tell, but I for one would never pay a monthly subscription to use windows 10. I don't even want to use it for "free". However probably alot more people would not want yet another monthly subscriton for yet another service added to their bills. Many households have 2-3 PC's. Soon all we do is rent everything and our pay check is spent before we even get it due to all subscription services and insurances we now must have for our daily lives. Enough is enough.

    FORBES: Windows 10 Leak Exposes Microsoft's New Monthly Charge

    Ever since its creation, Microsoft has described Windows 10 “as a service”. The fear has always been that this meant Microsoft would start charging users a monthly fee to maintain the operating system, and now a new leak has confirmed this is exactly what will happen…

    In a new report, CNet’s well connected Microsoft specialist Mary Jo Foley reports the company will soon launch ‘Microsoft Managed Desktop’ which will charge a monthly fee to configure computers running Windows 10 and keep them running smoothly as new updates are released.

    Foley also notes “Microsoft already has a number of the pieces in place to make this happen” such as a Windows Autopilot automatic device provisioning service, device financing programs like Surface Plus and a ‘Surface as a Service’ leasing program. Microsoft also has a subscription bundle including Windows 10 and Office 365 called Microsoft 365 and Windows 10 Enterprise subscription plans.

    Furthermore, Foley states “One of my contacts said that Bill Karagounis - former Director of the Windows Insider Program & OS Fundamentals team, who last year joined the Enterprise Mobility and Management part of Windows and Devices - is in charge of the coming Microsoft Managed Desktop.”

    With Microsoft also publicly hiring for this new division, managed subscriptions for Windows 10 appear to have the green light.

    So what’s the good news? At this time, Foley believes Microsoft Managed Desktop will be targeted at businesses. But the obvious question, given the clear direction Microsoft is moving becomes: for how long?

    Foley did ask Microsoft to go on the record about Microsoft Managed Desktop, but the company declined to comment.

    All of which means those users who chose to stay on Windows 7 and Windows 8 are probably feeling pretty smug right now. As for everyone who upgraded for ‘free’ to Windows 10, the nagging question must be: will it prove too good to be true?
    YouTube: Will you Have to Pay a Monthly Rate for Windows 10?

    Last edited by Lord.Funk; Oct 17 2018 at 12:28 AM.

 

 

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