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    Bodkin Arrows

    The Bodkin Arrows Bowmaster trait says it gives up to -10% Mitigation Bypass for Bow Attacks. I assume this means it reduces the mob's mitigation by some amount, so a particular hit would produce more net damage.

    I did a few tests with and without those 5 trait points, and have been unable to detect any effect. (Combat log shows identical damage values for same skills against same mobs.) I tested some level cap landscape mobs and some t2 instance mobs and bosses, solo with no other mitigation debuffs. Although not an exhaustive test, I expected to see some difference.

    Is it bugged or for some reason obsolete? If it actually does something, can someone suggest a way to observe the effect?

    NOTE: I did further tests. See my later post.
    Last edited by Michaleo; Oct 05 2018 at 01:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaleo View Post
    The Bodkin Arrows Bowmaster trait says it gives up to -10% Mitigation Bypass for Bow Attacks. I assume this means it reduces the mob's mitigation by some amount, so a particular hit would produce more net damage.

    I did a few tests with and without those 5 trait points, and have been unable to detect any effect. (Combat log shows identical damage values for same skills against same mobs.) I tested some level cap landscape mobs and some t2 instance mobs and bosses, solo with no other mitigation debuffs. Although not an exhaustive test, I expected to see some difference.

    Is it bugged or for some reason obsolete? If it actually does something, can someone suggest a way to observe the effect?
    It's not bugged, it is working as intended.



    The first hit is with 5/5 Bodkin Arrows, and the last hit was with the same traits and gear but Bodkin Arrows at 0/5.
    I only used Camouflage and Improved Focus to guarantee critical hits, so I wouldn't have to redo on a new NPC if I didn't crit or something.
    Timestamps show that this happened a few minutes ago.

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    After further tests, I was able to detect the effect of Bodkin Arrows. It does affect skill damage, but does not affect bleeds or ranged auto-attacks.

    Doing Quick Shots on a Dale-land Moose did about 18% more damage for both crits and non-crits. I don't know what different mob's mitigations are, or how the "bypass" calculation is done, so I can't suggest a general figure. How it affects your overall damage will depend on your skill mix.
    Michaleo / Nodread / Wrytune / Truroar / Varmentor Toolmaker
    Landroval www.shadowbanekinship.com michaleo.wordpress.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaleo View Post
    After further tests, I was able to detect the effect of Bodkin Arrows. It does affect skill damage, but does not affect bleeds or ranged auto-attacks.

    Doing Quick Shots on a Dale-land Moose did about 18% more damage for both crits and non-crits. I don't know what different mob's mitigations are, or how the "bypass" calculation is done, so I can't suggest a general figure. How it affects your overall damage will depend on your skill mix.
    if its 18% more damage, then your target had 45% mits without and 35% with
    First, from a 100 dmg shot, 55 comes through mits, afterwards 65. 65/55 is an increase of 18%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaleo View Post
    After further tests, I was able to detect the effect of Bodkin Arrows. It does affect skill damage, but does not affect bleeds or ranged auto-attacks.

    Doing Quick Shots on a Dale-land Moose did about 18% more damage for both crits and non-crits. I don't know what different mob's mitigations are, or how the "bypass" calculation is done, so I can't suggest a general figure. How it affects your overall damage will depend on your skill mix.
    Thank you. Your test just gave my yellow hunter 8 free traitpoints. If Bodkin Arrows don't work on bleeds, then it's wasted traitpoints for me.
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    Trapper of Foes needs better tools to fulfill it's supporting(CC and offensive debuffs) and DoT role.

 

 

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