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    15 European Gambling Regulators Agree to Investigate If Loot Boxes Harm Children

    Following up on the Australian story: 15 European Gambling Regulators Agree to Investigate If Loot Boxes Harm Children

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-harm-children

    Authorities from Spain, the United Kingdom, Portugal, Austria, Poland, Latvia and others signed the declaration.

    Loot boxes are an important source of income for video game publishers, but they’re increasingly under fire from regulators. In a joint statement released on September 17, a group of 15 European gambling commissions and one from Washington State declared their intentions to investigate “skin betting, loot boxes, social casino gaming and the use of gambling themed content within video games available to children.”

    The declaration comes on the heels of the annual meeting of the Gambling Regulators European Forum, a group that gathers to discuss issues related to gambling regulation and enforcement. “We commit ourselves today to working together to thoroughly analyse the characteristics of video games and social gaming,” the declaration said. “This common action will enable an informed dialogue with the video games and social gaming industries to ensure the appropriate and efficient implementation of our national laws and regulations.”

    Authorities from Spain, the United Kingdom, Portugal, Austria, Poland, Latvia and others signed the declaration.

    The joint statement comes after a bad year for loot boxes. Publisher Electronic Arts' Star Wars: Battlefront II irritated fans who felt the game was a skinner box designed to nickel-and-dime them. The controversy hit the mainstream press and government legislators began to take notice.

    In April 2018, a Dutch study of the issue found that too many publishers blurred the line between gaming and gambling when it sold loot boxes. Also in April, Brussels found games such as Overwatch violated Belgian law and Blizzard stopped selling loot boxes in the country. Brussels is also currently investigating Electronic Arts Games for gambling violations related to FIFA 18.

    We’re just at the start of a fight that publishers such as Electronic Arts and Blizzard will soon start fighting in European, and possibly American, courtrooms. Loot boxes may have an uncertain future, but one thing still holds true—gamers complain about them constantly, but we can’t seem to stop buying them.
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  2. #2
    Oh well RIP lootboxes then.

    NEW FEATURE:

    CHESTS OF GLORIOUS MERIT: loot chests that sit in Rivendell, you open with a SILVER KEY. Contain random assortment of goodies inside.

    SILVER KEYS can be obtained by bartering several [fragment of silver key] for [Silver Key]

    FRAGMENTS OF SILVER KEY can be obtained from loot chests in instances. The chance that these chests will drop a large amount of fragments can be increased by applying an ITHIL RUNE to the chest before opening

    ITHIL RUNES are avalible on the LOTRO store for 250 lotro points.


    NOT A LOOTBOX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saruman_Of_Numbers View Post
    Oh well RIP lootboxes then.

    NEW FEATURE:

    CHESTS OF GLORIOUS MERIT: loot chests that sit in Rivendell, you open with a SILVER KEY. Contain random assortment of goodies inside.

    SILVER KEYS can be obtained by bartering several [fragment of silver key] for [Silver Key]

    FRAGMENTS OF SILVER KEY can be obtained from loot chests in instances. The chance that these chests will drop a large amount of fragments can be increased by applying an ITHIL RUNE to the chest before opening

    ITHIL RUNES are avalible on the LOTRO store for 250 lotro points.


    NOT A LOOTBOX.
    As long as you can spend money on random generated stuff it's gambling. Doesn't matter if its called a lootbox or not.

    Gambling in a video game is in-game purchases that offer randomized rewards.

    As long as you can spend real money to get randomized rewards they want it to count as gambling, and for it to be ruled as illegal.

    They can name the lootbox to whatever, it will still count as gambling.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by yafga View Post
    As long as you can spend money on random generated stuff it's gambling. Doesn't matter if its called a lootbox or not.

    Gambling in a video game is in-game purchases that offer randomized rewards.

    As long as you can spend real money to get randomized rewards they want it to count as gambling, and for it to be ruled as illegal.

    They can name the lootbox to whatever, it will still count as gambling.
    Once systems are in place for governments to start regulating, it will become significantly easier for things like the gambling commission to investigate reports surrounding shady behavior. It becomes a risky venture to attempt to skirt the rules because it takes a few players to simply report the company and give a few months and things could come crashing down.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHylianLink98 View Post
    Once systems are in place for governments to start regulating, it will become significantly easier for things like the gambling commission to investigate reports surrounding shady behavior. It becomes a risky venture to attempt to skirt the rules because it takes a few players to simply report the company and give a few months and things could come crashing down.
    Actually, the Dutch gambling authority says loot boxes are not illegal as long as the content cant be sold for real money. So BoA content from a lootbox is fine. However they see lootboxes in general as a risk for (leading up to) gambling addiction. But they leave it up to the company to remove it or not.


    Wouldnt surprise me if a compromise is reached.

 

 

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