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  1. #1

    Lay of rust and rime + The bloody watchers 'lore' questions

    So, first 'lore'-related question about Lay of rust and rime. I did the new episodic quest today and there's a reference in the dialogue to a 'feud' between a Dwarf leader and the Ravens. Is this a reference to something in the official lore, is it LOTRO lore or neither?

    Second question about the boody watchers quest, with the standing stone in front of Seregost. I skipped the quest dialogue and didn't catch the full story. In the quest log says that the standing stone is Lhaereth's daughter. Anything else I'm missing?

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    cant see thorin III giving any quest to me
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    I can't speak to the question about Agarnaith, but I can answer your first question about The Lay of Rust and Rime. The 'feud' you mentioned is not explicitly mentioned in Tolkien's canon, but it was expanded from two exchanges between Thorin Oakenshield and Roäc:


    "So much for joy, Thorin Oakenshield. You may go back to your halls in
    safety; all the treasure is yours-for the moment. But many are gathering
    hither beside the birds. The news of the death of the guardian has already
    gone far and wide, and the legend of the wealth of Thror has not lost in the
    telling during many years; many are eager for a share of the spoil. Already
    a host of the elves is on the way, and carrion birds are with them hoping
    for battle and slaughter. By the lake men murmur that their sorrows are due
    to the dwarves; for they are homeless and many have died, and Smaug has
    destroyed their town. They too think to find amends from your treasure,
    whether you are alive or dead.
    "Your own wisdom must decide your course, but thirteen is small remnant
    of the great folk of Durin that once dwelt here, and now are scattered far.
    If you will listen to my counsel, you will not trust the Master of the
    Lake-men, but rather him that shot the dragon with his bow. Bard is he, of
    the race of Dale, of the line of Girion; he is a grim man but true. We would
    see peace once more among dwarves and men and elves after the long
    desolation; but it may cost you dear in gold. I have spoken."
    Then Thorin burst forth in anger: "Our thanks, Roäc Carc's son. You and
    your people shall not be forgotten. But none of our gold shall thieves take
    or the violent carry off while we are alive. If you would earn our thanks
    still more, bring us news of any that draw near. Also I would beg of you, if
    any of you are still young and strong of wing, that you would send
    messengers to our kin in the mountains of the North, both west from here and
    east, and tell them of our plight. But go specially to my cousin Dain in the
    Iron Hills, for he has many people well-armed, and dwells nearest to this
    place. Bid him hasten!"
    "I will not say if this counsel be good or bad," croaked Roäc; "but I
    will do what can be done." Then off he slowly flew.

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    "Winter and snow is hastening behind them. How shall you be fed without
    the friendship and goodwill of the lands about you? The treasure is
    likely to be your death, though the dragon is no more!"'
    But Thorin was not moved. "Winter and snow will bite both men and
    elves," he said, "and they may find their dwelling in the Waste grievous to
    bear. With my friends behind them and winter upon them, they will perhaps be
    in softer mood to parley with."


    I would not consider it an active feud, but it was certainly a strain on the alliance between the Ravens and Durin's Folk. Thorin Oakenshield ignored the counsel of the Ravens before he came to realize his error at the end of the Hobbit, and it is likely that the Ravens did not forget their last interactions with him being one of anger and dismissive-ness. I would suggest that steps were taken to heal these hurts during the rule of Dáin II Ironfoot, but it took the acknowledgement of Thorin Stonehelm (especially bearing the same name) to truly set things right between their peoples.
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    "A man that flies from his fear may find that he has only taken a short cut to meet it." - J. R. R. Tolkien, The Children of Húrin

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    @ThePinion Nice! Thanks for the quick reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by Valakircka View Post
    cant see thorin III giving any quest to me
    And you've done the previous quests in the chain?

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    I finished all the previous ones and yet it offered nothing to me either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedon View Post
    I finished all the previous ones and yet it offered nothing to me either.
    I thought I'd finished the quest chain pre-22.2 but then I found a npc in Caras Tilion that gave me a quest while I was completing a deed.

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    I read somewhere one person claims to have Thorin give him the continuation of this quest but I'm not having any success here. Nothing from Thorin, Thranduil etc and even went to see Galadriel (The lady and the mirror might refer to her) before heading back to Caras Tilion to no avail. Anyone able to begin the second half of this quest?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalros View Post
    I read somewhere one person claims to have Thorin give him the continuation of this quest but I'm not having any success here. Nothing from Thorin, Thranduil etc and even went to see Galadriel (The lady and the mirror might refer to her) before heading back to Caras Tilion to no avail. Anyone able to begin the second half of this quest?!?
    Unexpected Summons is the most recent quest. If you've done that you're up to date.

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    Thanks. I was mistaken thinking The Lady and the Mirror would release with this last update... maybe the patch notes referred to it coming out in the next week instead of immediately with this update? I guess we shall see in a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daemonied View Post
    Second question about the boody watchers quest, with the standing stone in front of Seregost. I skipped the quest dialogue and didn't catch the full story. In the quest log says that the standing stone is Lhaereth's daughter. Anything else I'm missing?
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