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    Until when will the game go?

    Hello Everyone !

    I would have a question for you, because I am really interested (and a bit worried) in the topic. It is often said nowdays: "Is LotRO dying?" and words like these. Some people say that, the end of this beautiful game approaches, but many people say it is still flowing and evolving and has a huge amout of players. However, I don't really know what is the real truth. LotRO is a really super game, especially for huge Tolkien fans like me, therefore it has a very long life, and as I see it is still going very well even after 11 years. But, regardless of it I am really curious, until when will it keep going aproximately? I discovered LotRO in October 2017 (sadly somehow I didn't knew about it's excisting before), and started to play, but I am still at the very beginning of my adventures in Middle-earth (lvl 42), and still don't have a good pc so I mostly suffer from lag and horrible crashing instead of enjoying this wonderful game (probably I will have pc in aprox. 1 year from now). So I would like to know: Do I have enought time to enjoy this game out and accomplish my goals and adventures? And overall how many years kept for LotRO based on what we the players know about the topic? Or I came too late, and the game will close it's gates soon? Sorry for the curiousity, just I am a bit worried I don't ask SSG to tell any of LotRO's future, just that, what you guys think? Personally I really really hope, LotRO has a lot of time back.

    Best regards, Turambar

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    SSG said they intend to develope the game for many more years. You've got plenty of time.

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    Nothing to worry about. People have been predicting Lotro's demise since it opened. Turbine sold off Lotro about a year ago. If it was really dying, there would've been no buyers and it would've been shut down.

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    It will continue as long as it is economically viable, which nobody can really speak to unless they're privy to the internal financials (and if they were they certainly should not be posting about it here!)

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    Thank you guys very much for informing me ! I don't worry anymore !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar_04 View Post
    Hello Everyone !

    I would have a question for you, because I am really interested (and a bit worried) in the topic. It is often said nowdays: "Is LotRO dying?" and words like these. Some people say that, the end of this beautiful game approaches, but many people say it is still flowing and evolving and has a huge amout of players. However, I don't really know what is the real truth. LotRO is a really super game, especially for huge Tolkien fans like me, therefore it has a very long life, and as I see it is still going very well even after 11 years. But, regardless of it I am really curious, until when will it keep going aproximately? I discovered LotRO in October 2017 (sadly somehow I didn't knew about it's excisting before), and started to play, but I am still at the very beginning of my adventures in Middle-earth (lvl 42), and still don't have a good pc so I mostly suffer from lag and horrible crashing instead of enjoying this wonderful game (probably I will have pc in aprox. 1 year from now). So I would like to know: Do I have enought time to enjoy this game out and accomplish my goals and adventures? And overall how many years kept for LotRO based on what we the players know about the topic? Or I came too late, and the game will close it's gates soon? Sorry for the curiousity, just I am a bit worried I don't ask SSG to tell any of LotRO's future, just that, what you guys think? Personally I really really hope, LotRO has a lot of time back.

    Best regards, Turambar
    People have been asking this since 2007.

    No, the game is not dying, and we have no reason to believe it will be ending any time soon. There is zero evidence (besides useless conspiracy theories) that the game is dying. Enjoy the game. You don't have anything to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugon View Post
    People have been asking this since 2007.

    No, the game is not dying, and we have no reason to believe it will be ending any time soon. There is zero evidence (besides useless conspiracy theories) that the game is dying. Enjoy the game. You don't have anything to worry about.
    Thank you very much! I am glad to hear it.

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    The game will probably go until the version of software it runs on is so old it can't be run by modern equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowlock View Post
    The game will probably go until the version of software it runs on is so old it can't be run by modern equipment.
    Arguably it has already reached that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowlock View Post
    The game will probably go until the version of software it runs on is so old it can't be run by modern equipment.
    Everquest one is here for 18 years, Ultima Online is for 21. As it has been mentioned: as long as the game is profitable.

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    Not to be morbid but I'm kinda hoping it ends before I die. I mean, I'd like to get to the end and see what happens. I'd be most disappointed to have to leave part way through.

    I've been kinda half seriously thinking about putting a suggestion in that they add an "I'm sorry but I have to sail into the West now" quest/session play/instance for those of us that may have to depart.

    Yeah. Bit morbid. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabani View Post
    Everquest one is here for 18 years, Ultima Online is for 21. As it has been mentioned: as long as the game is profitable.
    No, my quote applies to EVerquest and UO too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar_04 View Post
    Hello Everyone !

    I would have a question for you, because I am really interested (and a bit worried) in the topic. It is often said nowdays: "Is LotRO dying?" and words like these.
    People have been saying that, off and on, since the initial launch, Shadows of Angmar, in 2007. There were many who said, "Don't buy a lifetime membership, it'll never pay for itself." Mine has paid for itself many times over.

    Some people say that, the end of this beautiful game approaches, but many people say it is still flowing and evolving and has a huge amout of players. However, I don't really know what is the real truth. LotRO is a really super game, especially for huge Tolkien fans like me, therefore it has a very long life, and as I see it is still going very well even after 11 years. But, regardless of it I am really curious, until when will it keep going approximately?
    Nobody can say. The vague answer is "as long as it can pay for itself," but nobody can put a hard or even a soft-and-fuzzy date to that.

    I discovered LotRO in October 2017 (sadly somehow I didn't knew about it's excisting before), and started to play, but I am still at the very beginning of my adventures in Middle-earth (lvl 42), and still don't have a good pc so I mostly suffer from lag and horrible crashing instead of enjoying this wonderful game (probably I will have pc in aprox. 1 year from now).
    That ought to help a lot. If you can possibly manage it, get a solid-state drive for your new machine; that will improve its performance significantly.

    So I would like to know: Do I have enought time to enjoy this game out and accomplish my goals and adventures?
    I think you do. The advantage of this game, of course, is that every region is set in its own time, and if you wanted to start a new character tomorrow, s/he would start out in the Shire (if you're a Hobbit) shortly after Frodo and his friends left Bag End; similar starting dates for the other races. The whole game is waiting for you.

    And overall how many years kept for LotRO based on what we the players know about the topic?
    We, the players, know *nothing* about the topic. SSG may have a few rough estimates of how long the game might last, but nothing is cut in stone. As the Danish physicist Niels Bohr said, prediction is very difficult ... especially about the future.

    Or I came too late, and the game will close it's gates soon? Sorry for the curiousity, just I am a bit worried I don't ask SSG to tell any of LotRO's future, just that, what you guys think? Personally I really really hope, LotRO has a lot of time back.
    I think you should stop worrying and enjoy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar_04 View Post
    It is often said nowdays: "Is LotRO dying?" and words like these. Some people say that, the end of this beautiful game approaches,

    That has been said pretty much since the game launched, and yet LOTRO is still here.
    Unless a game is doing spectacularly well, there will be people claiming it is dead or dying.

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    It should go in to full maintenance mode for at least a couple of years before they turn it off, its just pure speculation how far off that is. The recent quest pack helps things look promising for the future, none of us know though if the majority of that pack was already built before ssg took over, same goes for the Mordor expansion. The amount of downtimes to fix issues created by the developers is a concern, if they are out of their depth now what will it be like when they have to create all new material themselves? Like someone else said though-just enjoy it while its here and don't stress of what could/might happen in the future

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    I don't think I've ever seen an MMO forum where there wasn't at least one post proclaiming the near-death of the game. There will always be someone who's not enjoying the game, and therefore think that nobody's enjoying it, and that the game will die soon. I've seen this on the LOTRO forums, the WoW forums, Rift, SWTOR, and others, sometimes mere months after release. It's a very loud minority who can't fathom that other people have different experiences than themselves.

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    I was nearly Perfect in predicting the future. Nearly Perfect as near Perfect Sapphire found within the Rifit of Nurz Ghashu.

    Remember the moment Adan, 8-10 years,at least. The Future of LOTRO shines bright. The SSG did incredible,beyond mortal comprehension work.

    They even exceed my expectations, Only the Greatest can perform such an ardours inhumane task.

    As for typical, Game will die, it sucks and so on, There was a talk about game's death since 2007, it never happen,lies,hoaxes,twisted words..

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    Oh, the doomsayers have been saying LOTRO was dying since launch. 11 years of dying.
    Its all good.

    MAWorking had the highest post count on the pre-beta LOTRO forums. He was truly an icon and clearly, hasn't changed a bit. -Meghan/aka Patience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar_04 View Post
    Hello Everyone !

    I would have a question for you, because I am really interested (and a bit worried) in the topic. It is often said nowdays: "Is LotRO dying?" and words like these. Some people say that, the end of this beautiful game approaches, but many people say it is still flowing and evolving and has a huge amout of players. However, I don't really know what is the real truth. LotRO is a really super game, especially for huge Tolkien fans like me, therefore it has a very long life, and as I see it is still going very well even after 11 years. But, regardless of it I am really curious, until when will it keep going aproximately? I discovered LotRO in October 2017 (sadly somehow I didn't knew about it's excisting before), and started to play, but I am still at the very beginning of my adventures in Middle-earth (lvl 42), and still don't have a good pc so I mostly suffer from lag and horrible crashing instead of enjoying this wonderful game (probably I will have pc in aprox. 1 year from now). So I would like to know: Do I have enought time to enjoy this game out and accomplish my goals and adventures? And overall how many years kept for LotRO based on what we the players know about the topic? Or I came too late, and the game will close it's gates soon? Sorry for the curiousity, just I am a bit worried I don't ask SSG to tell any of LotRO's future, just that, what you guys think? Personally I really really hope, LotRO has a lot of time back.

    Best regards, Turambar
    A lot of it is very subjective, I mean often when someone says a game is "dying" they don't mean it is literally going to close down anytime soon, merely that certain aspects of it (the playerbase, specific areas of the game, the amount of content being added, etc) are in decline, for some people to the point it is no longer worth playing.

    The reality is the while MMORPG genre is in decline, I'm not aware of any MMORPG these days that has managed to grow player number over the long term like WoW or EVE Online managed years ago, and when you look at other online games LoL with 80 million players, Overwatch 30 million, Fortnite 3 million concurrent players, etc, then MMORPGs have just been left behind.

    Saying that unless the company is in real finanicial difficulty there is no reason to expect the game too close soon, there are MMORPGs older than LOTRO still going (DAoC for example), normally when an MMORPG gets closed (outside of dire financial problems) it is because a larger parent company deems it not profitable enough and they think they will get better returns putting those resources into something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimble View Post
    A lot of it is very subjective, I mean often when someone says a game is "dying" they don't mean it is literally going to close down anytime soon, merely that certain aspects of it (the playerbase, specific areas of the game, the amount of content being added, etc) are in decline, for some people to the point it is no longer worth playing.
    Or, perhaps, that the aspect of the game the doomsayer is particularly interested in isn't actually declining [that is, it's in about the same state that it was in previous years], but is given less emphasis than the doomsayer would like.
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    Hmm,

    at some point Middle Earth will end. That may still be far in to the future, say 5-6 years given the rate of geographical expansion of the game so far. SSG will have to decide whether to go east for Cuivienen, south for Harad, and, rather unlikely, west for Numenor and Valinor. Or all. I do see a slight parallel with CS Lewis' Narnia book, The Horse and his boy where the adventure takes place in Calormen, their version of Harad, if you will. Going east towards and past Rhun and Khand could actually bring about some inspiration from Perumov's books The Ring of Darkness since those offer a pretty good description of those areas.

    There are a few maps that may be relevant ( http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Maps ) and we have only reached maybe two thirds of the areas involved in the Ring Wars. Since the Northern Kingdoms update we have yet another great area available but we still lack Lindon and rather large areas in in south west of Arnor.

    That was looking at maps.

    As for how the story will go with any lore approach, frankly, I have no clue. Looking at the current state of the game I would like to see a huge revamp of the Epic Quest Line to include the Northern Kingdoms before getting to Gondor, but I guess that is a very long shot to say the least.

    Personally I have 14 characters in the scope from 25 to 115 so I have lots of work to do that will probably keep my busy for an additional 3-4 years before all are 115 or 125 or 150, wherever the limits may be by then.
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