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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denhith View Post
    Sadly, people who play this game have short-term memory loss. All they had to see was Erebor, Dale and Northern Mirkwood in a producer's letter and everything else was forgiven.
    Not by me cause this is what I dread coming
    • New Elk Mount in Winterfest.... Gated behind a even newer deed with daily locks (but dont worry you can unlock more with Mithril coins)
    • New Areas with a new ash type system which means that new Currency will be available at the start even have a barterer. people will farm it, ssg will back off, remove it and say it was a bug while adding that item into lootboxes
    • New fiddle... lootbox only and its a new lootbox called the Elven lootbox that you need a Elven Steel Key that cost 495 to get... but dont worry you can 1 every 5 days fro free with dailies


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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    Greetings, and thank you for being a part of Lord of the Rings Online! 2017 has been a huge year for us. This not only was our first full year as Standing Stone Games, but was also the year we realized one of the most exciting dreams we've had for more than a decade: bringing you Mordor, the fate of the One Ring, and the Fall of Sauron.

    2017 also marked the start of a new long-form tale of our own with the release of the Black Book of Mordor. We're excited to further explore the lore and setting of Middle-earth for years to come, both by telling our own stories, and continuing to add the most iconic encounters, locations, and developments from the trilogy to the game.

    The Black Book of Mordor's plot continues in Update 22, leading to Northern Mirkwood! We are busy developing this region, including Thranduil's Court, Dale, Laketown, and Erebor. Who is now leading Dale and Laketown? Why are legions of refugees fleeing from Rhûn, with tales of death and horror on their lips? And why are spiders missing from the forest, and where have they gone? We'll answer these questions and more. We are also already planning for our updates between 22 and 23, including new additions to the Anniversary event and Summer Festival.

    Before Update 22 releases next year, we’ll be celebrating the end of 2017 by launching a new raid: The Abyss of Mordath. In a thrilling conclusion to the storylines introduced in Dor Amarth, you and your friends and kin will descend into the Black Pits of Mordor in pursuit of King Váskmun Greytooth and the Firehorn Dwarves. At last, the time has come to put an end to King Greytooth’s misguided quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf-ring, Manthríf, and avenge the threats he levied against the dwarves of Durin’s Folk. Alas, the devoted followers of the Order of the Eye also search the Abyss, for they seek both vengeance on the Firehorns and knowledge of Sauron’s greatest secrets. However, neither the Firehorns nor the Order of the Eye know the truth of the terrors that lurk in the deepest shadows of the Mordath. This Level 115 Raid features three new boss encounters and offers a plethora of new rewards including best-in-slot armour, jewellery, off-hand items, and unique housing items!

    Update 21.3 will feature new Housing Items, some of which will be found in the raid, others will be available through the Quartermaster in-game, and a few will be available in Gorgoroth Lootboxes. Speaking of new stuff, the Yule Festival will see new cosmetics, including a woodland crown, a new Winter dress, and a new Yule-themed cloak. Additionally, we have long heard players request the ability to have an Elk mount which will be offered in addition to two new cosmetic pets.

    One of the projects begun in 2017 that will continue into 2018 is the update of our character avatars. We're planning to release the Hobbit and Dwarf avatar update, and will continue afterwards with further improvements.

    For our musicians in LOTRO, we're excited to announce that a new instrument is being added to the music system: The fiddle! We expect this new instrument to debut in Update 22.


    Looking beyond Update 22, we know you have been asking to see even more classic moments from the trilogy. We have a way to go before we see Aragorn and Arwen's wedding, but we intend to bring you other well-known parts of the book. In Update 23, we intend to visit Minas Morgul, and say a fearful hello to Shelob herself.

    We also plan to make improvements to various systems like class skills and power, evolving player power through the Legendary Item system, and more. We'll update the Anniversary Event along with all of our other yearly Festivals. In particular, we’re looking forward to seeing Bingo Boffin’s Harvestmath Festival tale that began this year continue into next year.

    Once again, thank you for helping us bring Tolkien's world to life. We love seeing your concerts, plays, events, livestreams, artwork, poetry, writing, and more, and we think it's one of the things that really sets our community and game apart. We look forward to another year of celebration with you!

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  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenomica. View Post
    I loved everything in the letter except elk mounts...urgh.

    I don't recall reading that in the books.

    If we allow goats and elks, why not war pigs and battle worms? It will no longer be Middle-earth. LOTRO should veer as far away as possible from The Hobbit movies.

    I am firmly against both. I'd have preferred a mule to a goat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boraxxe View Post
    TRENGHI! RHOST KHIG!!! I resemble that remark!
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  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenomica. View Post
    I don't recall reading that in the books.
    If you read my entire post, you would have read that it wasn't in the books.

    In short:

    GOATS: Books: No - Movies: No.
    ELKS: Books: No - Movies: Yes.

    Of course the game is based on the books, NOT on the movies. But poetic freedom in the middle earth universe would give elks a lot more "street cred" than goats ever would.....

    If we allow goats and elks, why not war pigs and battle worms? It will no longer be Middle-earth. LOTRO should veer as far away as possible from The Hobbit movies.
    You do realize that most of the original game was actually completely made up by Turbine right? Forochel, Angmar... even most of Evendim.... all made up. Forochel wasn't even mentioned in any of the books.... Evendim only one passage if I recall, and Angmar only once or twice.... but they came up with full zones nonetheless by purely fantasizing it all up. Even Ered Luin isn't mentioned. The books take the path from the Shire to Bree to Rivendell quite quickly, a few chapters in and we're already forming the Fellowship.....

    Turbine just made up a world around key words they found in the books, but pretty much made up everything else. Goats included. So with long history of things made up and not in the books, I think an elk mount should be the least of your canon worries.....


    I am firmly against both. I'd have preferred a mule to a goat.
    There were no mules in Moria either. Or anywhere in the books. The only canon-compatible, if we may call it so, way of traveling in Moria.... is by foot.
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  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by maartena View Post
    Of course the game is based on the books, NOT on the movies.
    That hasn't been the case since WB bought Turbine.
    Phrasing! Doesn't anybody do phrasing anymore?

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    Great job SSG, really looking forward to next year and the new adventures that await!

    P.S. It is really sad that all the cry baby regulars on the forums had to post in this thread with all their boo-hoo's and BS just like they do in every other thread. Guess that post count # is their whole life.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Dmira View Post
    Very sad, but so true. The funny thing is if SSG releases Northern Mirkwood like they did Mordor solo and duo players will still be SOL. My wife and I were looking forward to Mordor, but after hearing you had to be a power gamer to enjoyment it we didn't bother buying the update. I fully expect SSG to pull the same stunt with the new regions.
    It doesnt. Just because mobs dont commit suicide upon seeing player dont mean it requires one to be "power gamer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MourneBlade View Post
    Great job SSG, really looking forward to next year and the new adventures that await!

    P.S. It is really sad that all the cry baby regulars on the forums had to post in this thread with all their boo-hoo's and BS just like they do in every other thread. Guess that post count # is their whole life.
    Oh my god I so forgot the memo that noone is suppose to complain on these forums. Instead we are all suppose to bow down & kiss SSG's feet.

    The horror of it all that players have valid complaints & criticisms of this game because they want the game to be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peachy16 View Post
    Oh my god I so forgot the memo that noone is suppose to complain on these forums. Instead we are all suppose to bow down & kiss SSG's feet.

    The horror of it all that players have valid complaints & criticisms of this game because they want the game to be better.
    Seriously Peachy you need to quit stalking me, it is getting really disturbing!

    Also you just proved what I said, you all complain, endlessly, and about the same stuff on EVERY SINGLE THREAD!!!

  11. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by maartena View Post
    You do realize that most of the original game was actually completely made up by Turbine right? Forochel, Angmar... even most of Evendim.... all made up. Forochel wasn't even mentioned in any of the books.... Evendim only one passage if I recall, and Angmar only once or twice.... but they came up with full zones nonetheless by purely fantasizing it all up. Even Ered Luin isn't mentioned. The books take the path from the Shire to Bree to Rivendell quite quickly, a few chapters in and we're already forming the Fellowship.....

    Turbine just made up a world around key words they found in the books, but pretty much made up everything else. Goats included. So with long history of things made up and not in the books, I think an elk mount should be the least of your canon worries.....
    Sorry but you are wrong. Surely, yes, there were many cases when developers used their own imagination to fill in, but a lot is taken from the Tolkien's writings also.

    We do find info on the areas you mentioned, for example, in The Appendices and The History of Middle-earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    we have long heard players request the ability to have an Elk mount which will be offered
    May I have a Flying Elk mount, please?

    I so enjoy LOTR lore written by Peter Jackson. Can we have more? How about Tauriel swooping in on her Flying Elk mount?
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  13. #63
    Thank you for the update, it is quite exciting really, to say the least. Looking forward to see it

    Would like to mention again, many people are concerned and not fully happy with the update of our character avatars so far, and ofc now worried as to what will happen to our hobbits and dwarfs. Can we hope for more options in that area? Please guys and gals. We all relate to our avatars to some degree. It is a change we waited for a long time. And the direction of it is good, but we definitely need more options. Thanks in advance

  14. #64
    Sev, just curious. Have you ever played Lotro?
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    Thanks for the letter, Severlin. I'm very much excited for the game's new post-Mordor direction.

    I know the producer letter is not indicative of 100% of the content LOTRO will be receiving over the course of the next year, but there are a number of changes that I believe should definitely be considered as we move forward. Changes that, given my frequent interaction with new and potential players, I believe are crucial to both player retention and draw.

    1) F2P Model - LOTRO is in desperate need of a cleaner pricing model. As you build more and more content onto the backend of the game, you're drastically increasing the monetary investment required to play the game through. A lot of new players I've talked with look down the barrel of that rather substantial (and confusing) pricing model and turn back before they even install. LOTRO's "subscribe/then don't/subscribe/then don't" model needs to be reworked to be more consumer friendly and easy to understand. Basic things like adding Helm's Deep (and maybe even Gondor) to the Quad Pack to create one economical purchase would go a long way towards this. (I'd also say open up all pre-Moria content to F2P accounts, or make it a permanent unlock for VIP members. It's a decade old, after all.)

    2) Optimization - I heard Cordovan mention that work on the 64-bit client is still ongoing, which is fantastic. I know this won't be the silver bullet to a lot of people's tech issues, but it's a great start. The lack of optimization is a bigger detriment than I feel is recognized.

    3) Communication - This time last year, I feel like SSG did a lot to really show they were listening. Starting this last summer, however, things took a bit of a turn with the release of Mordor. Controversy after controversy has been met with infrequent, singular responses and prolonged bouts of silence, and it's starting to become very noticeable and frustrating. Controversy shouldn't be answered with more silence. On the contrary, we should see more communication. We should see that Dev Tracker light up so we can find some middle ground and clarification on these topics. Community between LOTRO's players and devs have carried the game this far, but if people start to feel like they don't have your ear, they will start to look for the exit. And for a ten year old game, I should imagine retention is of the utmost importance.

    Again, as someone who has discussed the game ad infinitum in-person and online with new and prospective players, these three items are absolutely the three biggest roadblocks as far as getting people into the game and keeping them there. Anything less than attempting to alleviate these barriers in some respectable manner is likely just going to amplify current problems as we make our way through 2018.

    Please consider giving this some much-needed attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MourneBlade View Post
    Seriously Peachy you need to quit stalking me, it is getting really disturbing!

    Also you just proved what I said, you all complain, endlessly, and about the same stuff on EVERY SINGLE THREAD!!!
    Are you suggesting we stop trying to campaign to get the technical issues resolved because a client that crashes, lags, stutters, and consumes 2GB memory is acceptable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MourneBlade View Post
    Seriously Peachy you need to quit stalking me, it is getting really disturbing!

    Also you just proved what I said, you all complain, endlessly, and about the same stuff on EVERY SINGLE THREAD!!!
    LMAO I checked my posting history & went back to July of this year & found 2 posts. You need to look up the definition of stalking.

    Nope I didn't prove anything.

    If you don't like people responding to your posts then quit being so rude to other people here. People have the right to complain about things & will continue to do so.

    Instead of worrying about all these complaints maybe you should get your addiction under control.

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    So...... Can we get a date when we can unlock the high elf in store thanks????
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    Quote Originally Posted by maartena View Post
    If you read my entire post, you would have read that it wasn't in the books.

    In short:

    GOATS: Books: No - Movies: No.
    ELKS: Books: No - Movies: Yes.

    Of course the game is based on the books, NOT on the movies. But poetic freedom in the middle earth universe would give elks a lot more "street cred" than goats ever would.....



    You do realize that most of the original game was actually completely made up by Turbine right? Forochel, Angmar... even most of Evendim.... all made up. Forochel wasn't even mentioned in any of the books.... Evendim only one passage if I recall, and Angmar only once or twice.... but they came up with full zones nonetheless by purely fantasizing it all up. Even Ered Luin isn't mentioned. The books take the path from the Shire to Bree to Rivendell quite quickly, a few chapters in and we're already forming the Fellowship.....

    Turbine just made up a world around key words they found in the books, but pretty much made up everything else. Goats included. So with long history of things made up and not in the books, I think an elk mount should be the least of your canon worries.....




    There were no mules in Moria either. Or anywhere in the books. The only canon-compatible, if we may call it so, way of traveling in Moria.... is by foot.
    WAT?

    Do you not understand the difference between:

    - Develop, fill out and make whole a location that already exists in the lore as part of a central narrative, and

    - Making something up that has absolutely no coverage at all in the lore - such as adding something into the game solely for monetisation purposes.

    ?????

    Seems you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bastiat1 View Post
    Sev, just curious. Have you ever played Lotro?
    His favourite area is the shire (Anniversary Interviews), we may read that differently.

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  21. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeekGirl View Post
    Some of these ideas are great and wonderful and amazing, and we the players THANK YOU for your continued dedication and hard work!

    However...

    ...elk mounts. Cringe. Nobody rode elk in Middle Earth.

    Also, people have been begging for a homestead in Rohan for a long, long time. PLEASE heed our begging, whining, and pleading.

    New hairstyles for avatars? Another thing people have been requesting since forever.

    How about fixing the boots that bleed through our leggings? The hair that bleeds through our hoods? The backpacks that bleed through chairs? Getting rid of the DESPISED "stand up and scratch/look around for no reason" tic?

    I know you're all about keeping existing players around and drawing new players in, and that requires constant new content. But please don't ignore the players who've stuck around for years and years and have such humble little requests to enrich the game we love so well.
    You use "we" and "our" A LOT but do not represent all players so just stop!!!!
    PLEASE heed MY begging, whining, and pleading and IGNORE this lie of a post!!!! ALL the items mentioned by this person our a WASTE of resources IN MY OPINION...

  22. #72
    And when do we get a REAL instance CLUSTER with more than 2 instances?

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    I just hope we can access Dale and Erebor via the map from Misty Mountains (North High Pass) Eregion, over Hollin, via South Mirkwood, Northern Lorien and along Anduin thus tying traveling together. Don't make us get there through Wastes and go north via Dead Marshes as a requirement.

    Tie the map together.
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    Thank you so much for this letter, I am really looking forward to Dale, Lake Town and Erebor,
    thanks again.

  25. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Denhith View Post
    Not a single mention...nothing at all about one of the biggest problems this game faces--performance.

    So it kind of makes the news about seeing Dale and the rest of Erebor, etc. fall pretty flat (imo)
    64-bit client wont help with lags at all. Major lags come from lags with server packets and server lagging response to world events. The game was designed in such a way that every move, every effect, everything, even you just turning around is controlled, approved and updated by server. To feel how slow server response is try to take and pass tasks quests at any Tasks board. No 64-bit client will help you.

 

 
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