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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Yep, your right Kanoroch! Narya it is
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Quote Originally Posted by MissGrace View Post
    I came up with another line to help:

    Without notice, by the door I stay,
    Until I am taken, outdoors one day.
    Had you posted that as the entire riddle and left all the rest out, we'd have guessed it a lot faster!

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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Well I've finally come up with some words to commit to virtual paper, probably will get solved quickly, but here it is...



    Game as ancient as Earth itself,
    played for fun, yet can save those in need.
    Took away something precious,
    and hated by those who are cheated,
    but the authorites say fair play!




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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    The name of this thread. You didn't even need anything after the first line. (Although it should have included the word "middle" in there.)
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Wow, under a minute. Yep, you're right TheScyphozoa, the Riddle-Game it is. Middle-Earth is supposed to be an older version of earth, so I figured that it would make it a bit harder. Guess not







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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Actually, I think Middle-earth is just the stuff west of the sea and east of Mordor. The elves left Middle-earth, but they didn't leave the planet.
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    /lore mode
    Well, Arda was the name of all the earth, including Valinor and surrounding realms (Tolkien later thought that Middle-Earth was just one of a vast series of realms, ie the universe, with Middle-Earth being the most important one). Middle-Earth was the name for all the land from the Sundering Sea to the eastern side of Middle-Earth, far beyond Mordor. It may also be said to include the new lands west of where Valinor was after it was destroyed and the earth was bent.

    /lore mode


    Someone come up with a harder riddle already





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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    nice riddle ehb, i especially like that it pays homage to our beloved thread hehe

    If TheSchypozoa doesnt mind, Ill throw my latest up before i go to bed



    You must at times be cautious in my presence, yet you needn’t be afraid
    For my face and bearing are pleasant, and I myself am harmless
    Yet you may see my countenance burn steadily with violent fury
    A coward shares my name, though I myself have never felt fear
    I’m never angry, though I can be quite bitter sometimes
    I watch from the treetop, I lay in the meadow;
    I travel a long road; but I call no place my home
    My strength has restrained the swiftest, and impeded the most driven
    Yet I’ve confronted no one, nor spoken a word in protest or threat
    Can you guess my name?



    it's not lore specific
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Good morning, I see I missed a few riddles. Ah well, that's what I get for not logging in and checking the thread enough.

    As for the most recent, I will guess "wind".
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    Nope not wind, though that does fit a lot of the lines
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    Hmmmm... Interesting riddle, after reading it through a few more times I got to thinking that I was looking at it too specifically. Trying to muscle your way through a riddle rarely works .

    That being said, is the answer perhaps "Yellow"?
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    "Yellow" is correct
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Cool, nice riddle Elvyen. I'll try to think up a riddle but to be honest it may be a while.
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Ok, took me a bit but I thought one up:

    The first shall stay true to its name
    Though the third is named the same
    While the second place is bought
    By that which turns all to naught
    Unashamedly guarding the rear
    Is ruin's herald and trailer of fear

    Joined together a great fruit is born
    Of love and mercy amidst the scorn
    And if a flip and reversal is nigh
    You'll see the dark brother on high
    Seek not though the silvery bold
    But rather the flame of the gold


    EDIT: I was especially amused by the "impeding the most driven" line from the previous riddle very clever elvyen
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Quote Originally Posted by TheScyphozoa View Post
    The elves left Middle-earth, but they didn't leave the planet.
    Not at first. But after the fall of Númenor the Earth was "bent" (i.e., became a globe) and the Blessed Lands were removed from it. At least, that's how I read the myth (Tolkien's conception of what that transformation was supposed to account for, in mythical terms, as described in The Silmarillion).
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Womdon View Post
    The first shall stay true to its name
    Though the third is named the same
    While the second place is bought
    By that which turns all to naught
    Unashamedly guarding the rear
    Is ruin's herald and trailer of fear

    Joined together a great fruit is born
    Of love and mercy amidst the scorn
    And if a flip and reversal is nigh
    You'll see the dark brother on high
    Seek not though the silvery bold
    But rather the flame of the gold
    Oh, I like this one. I can see what's guarding the rear, and I'm pretty sure I know what's bought, but the rest of it eludes me.

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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Ah good, someone's making progress with it. I was starting to worry I made it too tough. I will mention that the answer is lore-specific and that both stanzas describe the answer, just in very different ways.

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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Joined together a great fruit is born
    Of love and mercy amidst the scorn
    And if a flip and reversal is nigh
    You'll see the dark brother on high
    Seek not though the silvery bold
    But rather the flame of the gold


    I can't help but think this has to do with the Trees of Valinor. The great fruit being the last fruit of Laurelin, which turned into the sun. Unless I'm wrong, the moon and sun is referenced in the last two lines "silver bold" and "flame of gold", respectively. Seeking the moon isn't a good idea, as Tilion wasn't a very reliable steersman, remaining in the sky too long and giving chase to the sun.

    The first stanza however, puzzles me.

    The first shall stay true to its name
    Though the third is named the same
    While the second place is bought
    By that which turns all to naught
    Unashamedly guarding the rear
    Is ruin's herald and trailer of fear


    Maybe the latter part is a reference to Ungoliant? Turned the trees to naught, guarded Morgoth's rear as he left Valinor... trailer of fear could refer to the the clouds of darkness Tulkas and Orome's riders encountered as they gave chase.

    Either way, the first 3 lines of the poem confound me.

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    wow this is a tough one,
    i dont have many thoughts Im ready to add at this point, but I will say that the first stanza makes me think of letters. The last letter (guarding the rear) is "R" because it's the 1st letter (herald) of "Ruin" and the last letter (trailer) of fear. The rest of my musings I'll keep to myself for now until Im more confident hehe

    good one womdon
    no hints! let us grind this one out hehe
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Ok, deal, no hints . I gotta tell you though, your thinking is pretty good so far.
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    I also thought the last group of stanzas refer to Laurelin of the Two Trees, and its final fruit the Sun, or Arien, its guide.

    The first group of stanzas seemed to me a literal word riddle regarding the spelling of the answer, ending in the letter "R" and the second letter being "O" or "N" (I'd say "N" for sure except that I think aught means "anything", not "all"), and having the first and third letters the same.

    Putting the two together I'd venture a guess, Anar - the name of the fruit that was the Sun.

    EDIT: Looking in the dictionary, I see that a secondary definition of aught, after "anything", is "all". Aha!
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Good job, Gradivus, Anar is correct.

    And good job Elvyen and Kanoroch, you guys all worked it out very well.

    I figured describing N as turning all to naught as pretty safe as it worked with both aught->naught and ever->never. You guys nailed the descriptions in the second stanza as the sun and the moon.

    The reversal line refers to the backwards spelling of Anar, Rana, which is the Noldor word for the moon. I'm glad you got it, I really was worried for a bit there that I got too obscure with that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Womdon View Post
    The reversal line refers to the backwards spelling of Anar, Rana, which is the Noldor word for the moon. I'm glad you got it, I really was worried for a bit there that I got too obscure with that one
    Wow - that one went right over my head; way too obscure for me! I thought the reversal line referred either to the waxing and waning of the Two Trees, or an eclipse of the sun by the moon. I'm afraid my command of Noldor is deficient! I'd better brush up, just in case I'm reincarnated in Middle Earth as I hope (my second choice is ancient Rome; I'm studying Latin too!)

    I'd like to check my copy of The Silmarillion tonight before I submit the next riddle (well there, I've given you a hint already!)
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    Re: The Riddle-Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Womdon View Post
    Good job, Gradivus, Anar is correct.

    And good job Elvyen and Kanoroch, you guys all worked it out very well.
    The riddle was fantastic, Womdon. Thanks.

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    great riddle womdon!
    (though that first line about staying true to it's name still confuses me)

    and great guess gradivus! ok now your turn, and you've got to top that one so you'd better get to work hehe
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