We have detected that cookies are not enabled on your browser. Please enable cookies to ensure the proper experience.
Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889

    Dadi's Guide to Voice Chat

    Hello All,

    For those that wish to run group content voice chat greatly improves the chances of a successful run (whether that be instances, skraids, raids, or even big battles). This becomes even more important for PUGs and those that are not familiar with the run. Yes, there are some that can be run blindfolded and communication is not necessary, but that is not what this thread is about.

    Some excuses I hear for not having Voice Chat (especially third party clients):

    1) I don't have a microphone.

    While it is preferred that you be able to talk to the leader (and group), the most important aspect of the voice chat is to be able to hear directions from the leader. You do not need a microphone for this. You can always type your responses.

    2) I am embarrassed of my voice or I do not want people to hear me.

    See #1

    3) I am afraid to download third party software.

    The major chat clients; Ventrilo, Mumble, and Team Speak have all been around for a long time. They are stable and will not adversely affect your computer.

    4) I am not computer literate and I don't know how to install it.

    See below.

    5) It will cause lag.

    Not likely. The bandwidth used for these programs is minimal.

    6) I use the in game voice chat.

    This is better than no voice chat at all, however, the quality is awful. I strongly urge you to install a third party client.

    Ok, you talked me in to installing voice chat. Which one should I use?


    This is a great question, and one that is hotly debated. Ventrilo is very basic and simple to use. Team Speak and Mumble have better sound quality, more features, and more customization than Ventrilo. All three are used throughout the LOTRO community, so the decision may come down to who you are grouping with. Personally, I have all three.

    Voice Chat Tips & Courtesies


    When you want to talk

    Press and hold the Push to Talk button, pause for 1 second, speak, pause for 1 second, release the push to talk button.

    Waiting your turn

    Nothing more annoying than everyone talking over top of each other. Be patient, wait your turn.

    Interrupting the Leader
    The leader of the group has the floor. You should allow them the courtesy of explaining the mechanics of the run, people's roles, etc. without interrupting them.
    Last edited by Proudcdn; Jan 17 2016 at 06:08 PM.
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889
    Ventrilo - How To

    You can download Ventrilo for free here: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

    Once you have downloaded and installed Ventrilo you will need to configure a few settings.
    Open up Ventrilo, it should look like this:



    Click on the -> (arrow) to the right of the User Name box:



    Click on the NEW button. Enter the name you want people to see you as (Mine is Dadi). Click OK. Click OK again. This will bring you back to the first screen.
    Now click on the -> (arrrow) beside the Server box.



    Now click on the NEW button. Fill in the following info:

    Server Name: Anything you want
    Hostname/IP: You will need to ask the leader of the group for this
    Port number: You will need to ask the leader of the group for this
    Password: You will need to ask the leader of the group for this

    Click OK.
    Now click on the Setup icon (looks like gears) OR use the SETUP button on the right (if the gear icon is not there):



    A new screen opens:



    The main things you need to do on this screen;
    - Where it says Hotkey there is a big empty box. Click in the box and then push the key that you want to use to talk. This will now be your hotkey. It is advised to choose a different key than the one that you use for the In Game Lotro System or else you will get a nasty echo if using both IG and Ventrilo at the same time.
    - Check that Output Device is set to your speakers.
    - Check that Input Device is set to your microphone.
    - Amplifiers (you can leave this for now, but if people say you are too quiet, come here to boost your volume a bit).
    Click OK.

    Now click on the Connect Icon (green plug) or the Connect button:

    You should now be connected and in the main lobby. To enter a different room, simply double-click on it. To talk, push your Hotkey (that you set in the above steps).

    --------
    Here is a way to 'normalize' or compress voices in Ventrilo. This does 2 things: it will make soft voices more understandable, and it will make very loud voices less likely to blow the cones out of your speakers or headphones. These settings are in Vent themselves, and here's how to adjust them:

    Sign on to Vent, just like you normally would.
    Go to Setup
    Enable Direct Sound (this only works if Direct Sound is supported by your sound card/chip, but most of them are now-days)
    Select the SFX Button
    Select Compressor and click Add.
    Under Compressor Properties use the following settings:
    Gain = Adjust for how loud you want people to be. (I use 15)
    Attack = 0.01
    Release = Around 500
    Threshold = Around -30
    Ratio = 100 (I use about 75 normally to avoid hearing Derp's dog snoring....)
    Pre delay = 4.0
    Done!
    Last edited by Proudcdn; Mar 09 2016 at 09:55 PM.
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889
    Place holder for Mumble
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889
    Team Speak 3

    Initial Screen



    To begin let's delve in to the settings; Click the Settings tab. You can choose Setup Wizard and it will walk you through the basics, but I prefer to tailor the settings a bit more. Click on Identities.



    You can create multiple identities (perhaps one for each character you will be playing). To start, let's configure one default identity. Where it says Nickname, input what you would like to display for everyone to see. I have chosen Dadi (my character name). In the Phonetic Nickname enter your nickname how it sounds (this is for the computer to correctly pronounce your name). When you are done you can click OK, or you can create as many identities as you want by clicking the Add button and repeating the above steps.

    When finished with Identities you will be back to the main screen. Choose Settings and then Options. When the Options screen comes up, click on Playback.



    You can leave everything here as default, or customize things.

    Playback Device - Default should be your speakers via your soundcard. If you want, you can choose from the dropdown.

    Voice Volume Adjustment - This is the volume of the people that will be talking to you (incoming). Use the slider to adjust.

    Sound Pack Volume - This is the volume for the computer generated sounds (i.e. "Dadi has entered the channel"). Press the Play Test Sound button Use the slider to adjust.

    Mono Sound Expansion - You can change this to center or surround if you like. Test it out to see what sounds best.

    Click Apply and then OK.

    You will be back to the main screen again. Select Settings and then Options. From the Options screen choose Capture.



    In most cases, the default settings are just fine.

    Capture Device - You can select your microphone from the dropdown.

    There are 3 options for how to capture your voice; Push-to-Talk, Continuous Transmission, and Voice Activation Detection.

    Push-to-Talk - If you do not have a good quality microphone this is the best option. It is also the best option to ensure that you are only heard when you want to be. The only way for other to hear you is for you to push (and hold down) a key. If you select this option you need to set a hotkey (the button you will press to talk). Click in the big box (in the example above it says LEFT WINDOWS) and then press the key (or mouse button) that you want to use. If you want to set multiple hotkeys, click the link and you can add more.

    Continuous Transmission - For gaming this is not recommended unless you are making a tutorial video or are streaming.

    Voice Activation Detection - This is essentially hands free operation. However, if you do not have a good microphone (or there are a lot of background noises) this is not a good option.

    Once you have made your selection, press the Begin Test button. Speak in to the microphone normally. Ideally you would like to see your voice in the green range. If your voice is too low you will need to adjust your microphone (windows settings).

    I like to use Echo Cancellation; this helps reduce/eliminate reverberation resulting in your speakers playing through your microphone.

    In the Advanced Options you may want to check the Voice Activation Detection while using Push-to-Talk. Essentially this will allow you to use both.

    When you are done, click Apply and then OK.

    You will be back to the main screen again. Select Settings and then Options. From the Options screen choose Notifications.



    Notifications are the sounds/voices that get played when events happen (connect/disconnect to server, join/leave channels, private messages, etc.). These are computer generated. From the Sound Pack section you can select Male, Female, Text to Speech or Sounds Deactivated. This is really a personal preference. From here you can further customize what gets played, if at all, by double-clicking the items (i.e. Action, Channel, Server, etc.).

    Click Apply and then OK.
    Last edited by Proudcdn; Jan 31 2016 at 07:56 PM.
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889
    Place holder for Other
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    EU
    Posts
    757
    Quote Originally Posted by Proudcdn View Post
    Ok, you talked me in to installing voice chat. Which one should I use?

    This is a great question. The most common client used is Ventrilo, however, there is growing popularity with Mumble and Team Speak. I would recommend starting with Ventrilo and then if you find that groups you are joining are using Mumble or Team Speak you can add it.
    I could be totally wrong be I always thought this was an US/EU thing...
    In the US ppl use Vent and in Europe ppl use TeamSpeak...
    Eruadarion | Captain | on Gwaihir [EU-DE]
    www.avorthalier.eu

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889
    Added Team Speak info
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    167
    I would add there is another Voice Chat client called "GameVox." I have been using it with my fellow game players and we love it. GameVox is cloud based and a ton easier to set up than Mumble. It features a free and paid both with unlimited user #'s, unlimited channel creations and much more.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    889
    Quote Originally Posted by farmhand99 View Post
    I would add there is another Voice Chat client called "GameVox." I have been using it with my fellow game players and we love it. GameVox is cloud based and a ton easier to set up than Mumble. It features a free and paid both with unlimited user #'s, unlimited channel creations and much more.
    Thank you, I will look in to it and perhaps add it to the write-up.
    Dadi / Tyrlas - Arkenstone (Leader - Rare Breed Kin)
    dadislotroguides.com

  10. #10
    Yeah, the only thing I've used in the past many years is vent. TS never seemed as good. Seems like more hardcore AND hangout gamers are using mumble, so I'm not really sure what that means.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    France
    Posts
    683
    Having used all of the available voice chat options over the years for MMO games, I would definitely suggest checking out Discord.

    It is fairly new but the developer has used a really interesting and functional approach to the integration of voice chat and chat generally. There developer also updates the app frequently and also posts details of the app and progress etc.

    Voice chat is one of those things that people tend to get attached to and it can also be fairly decisive also occasionally. Generally I tend to steer clear of change for change sake, but having experienced Discord used in a FFXIV guild both for chat, voice chat both for raids and socialising, it was really a breath of fresh air, easy to use and works across a lot of platforms (including mobile). Worth checking the reviews on iTunes etc. to get some idea of how others find it. But generally those that do try it are impressed generally.

    The integration is very impressive and so was the ease of use and management tools.

    The quality was also impressive even with a larger raid group or guild evening voice chat session and setting up straight forward except for a few options which we worked out.

    Certainly worth considering.

  12. #12
    Good job on the write ups.

    I personally use Ventrillo or RazerComs.

    http://www.razerzone.com/comms

    Took me awhile to get use to RazerComs but I am very happy with it.

 

 

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload