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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY SNOWLOCK DIED IN THE MOORS! Oh FRIKING WHAH WHAH WHAH. IT'S TURBINES FAULT I DIDN'T GROUP UP WITH A HEALER! BAN BOXING BLA BLA BLA GROW UP STOP CRYING ABOUT DIEING IN THE MOORS... IT'S NOT AGAINST THE TOS. PERIOD END OF STORY STOP CRYING ON THE FORUMS GO GET YOUR LITTLE kin AND CAMP THE BOXER AT THE REZ.... NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS A GV CAMP.... BABY'S... Stop trying to ruin my day because you are uncapable of taking on a lousey 6man....who you all say sucks to begin with... This whole forum post is just a grieving of boxers not cool
    While boxing is not against the ToS, using third-party software like ISBoxer is. How would you explain a time-stamped combat log that shows:

    6 instances of skill 'A' hitting at the same time from a 6 box spider followed by
    6 instances of skill 'B' hitting at the same time from a 6 box spider followed
    6 instances of skill 'C' hitting at the same time from a 6 box spider?

    Not calling anyone out here, but would you like for people to post screenshots of their combat logs from encounters with you?

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  2. #152
    I don't use isboxer..... Sorry I have 6 computers in a row a log stick with 6 screwdrivers attached.... I'm just that good.... 3rd party software is things like dx11 vent Windows.... LOTRO runs on 3rd party programs..... Nice try tho...

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    I don't use isboxer..... Sorry I have 6 computers in a row a log stick with 6 screwdrivers attached.... I'm just that good.... 3rd party software is things like dx11 vent Windows.... LOTRO runs on 3rd party programs..... Nice try tho...
    So would you like for people to post screenshots of their combat logs from encounters with you that show just how good you are?

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  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    While boxing is not against the ToS, using third-party software like ISBoxer is. How would you explain a time-stamped combat log that shows:

    6 instances of skill 'A' hitting at the same time from a 6 box spider followed by
    6 instances of skill 'B' hitting at the same time from a 6 box spider followed
    6 instances of skill 'C' hitting at the same time from a 6 box spider?

    Not calling anyone out here, but would you like for people to post screenshots of their combat logs from encounters with you?
    exactly this isn't about multi-boxing this is about people dying in the Moors to me in solo format without heals or 23 other freeps on their back.... This is the solution for multi-boxing... GROUP UP.... The real problem is freep vrs freep hate... You people don't even like your teammates... It's just little kins out there who all think they are too good to group... You know who you are and don't pretend this whole thing isn't about me.... Fear the boxer!

  5. #155
    So I take it you don't want people posting screenies of their combat logs with you showing how good you are with your long stick with screwdrivers. I wonder why?

    Actually, this thread is about people who use programs like ISBoxer to control multiple toons. Let's be honest, we both know that a boxer, without using something like ISBoxer to coordinate attacks, is capable of a whole bunch of auto-attacks, and that's about it. This thread is obviously not about you since you said you only use a long stick and screwdrivers

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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    exactly this isn't about multi-boxing this is about people dying in the Moors to me in solo format without heals or 23 other freeps on their back.... This is the solution for multi-boxing... GROUP UP.... The real problem is freep vrs freep hate... You people don't even like your teammates... It's just little kins out there who all think they are too good to group... You know who you are and don't pretend this whole thing isn't about me.... Fear the boxer!

    So basically a person that does not want to group with others and therefore boxes is QQing bout freeps not grouping up to fight his oneman group.


    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY SNOWLOCK DIED IN THE MOORS! Oh FRIKING WHAH WHAH WHAH. IT'S TURBINES FAULT I DIDN'T GROUP UP WITH A HEALER! BAN BOXING BLA BLA BLA GROW UP STOP CRYING ABOUT DIEING IN THE MOORS... IT'S NOT AGAINST THE TOS. PERIOD END OF STORY STOP CRYING ON THE FORUMS GO GET YOUR LITTLE kin AND CAMP THE BOXER AT THE REZ.... NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS A GV CAMP.... BABY'S... Stop trying to ruin my day because you are uncapable of taking on a lousey 6man....who you all say sucks to begin with... This whole forum post is just a grieving of boxers not cool
    For someone who is saying to stop QQing because they die you sure QQ and rage a lot yourself.

    That irony though
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  7. #157
    Turbine DO NOT want boxing but it will cost to much money and take to much manpower for them to actually do anything about it so they yet again take the easy way out and just allow it to happen just like rank farming its now BANNABLE but people that have been banned compared to the people is like banned to not banned ratio of 1:50
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  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY SNOWLOCK DIED IN THE MOORS! Oh FRIKING WHAH WHAH WHAH. IT'S TURBINES FAULT I DIDN'T GROUP UP WITH A HEALER! BAN BOXING BLA BLA BLA GROW UP STOP CRYING ABOUT DIEING IN THE MOORS... IT'S NOT AGAINST THE TOS. PERIOD END OF STORY STOP CRYING ON THE FORUMS GO GET YOUR LITTLE kin AND CAMP THE BOXER AT THE REZ.... NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS A GV CAMP.... BABY'S... Stop trying to ruin my day because you are uncapable of taking on a lousey 6man....who you all say sucks to begin with... This whole forum post is just a grieving of boxers not cool
    You sound angry. For someone not worried about this thread, you look to be so angry you are nearing incoherence and yelling about things.

    Are you gonna rip your shirt off now and have six little 1' tall green Hulks jump out and start smashing things?
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  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY SNOWLOCK DIED IN THE MOORS! Oh FRIKING WHAH WHAH WHAH. IT'S TURBINES FAULT I DIDN'T GROUP UP WITH A HEALER! BAN BOXING BLA BLA BLA GROW UP STOP CRYING ABOUT DIEING IN THE MOORS... IT'S NOT AGAINST THE TOS. PERIOD END OF STORY STOP CRYING ON THE FORUMS GO GET YOUR LITTLE kin AND CAMP THE BOXER AT THE REZ.... NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS A GV CAMP.... BABY'S... Stop trying to ruin my day
    The anger is strong in this kid. And so is the fail spelling. Where is the mother of this child? Instead of exploiting a broken game you should be sent to school.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY SNOWLOCK DIED IN THE MOORS! Oh FRIKING WHAH WHAH WHAH. IT'S TURBINES FAULT I DIDN'T GROUP UP WITH A HEALER! BAN BOXING BLA BLA BLA GROW UP STOP CRYING ABOUT DIEING IN THE MOORS... IT'S NOT AGAINST THE TOS. PERIOD END OF STORY STOP CRYING ON THE FORUMS GO GET YOUR LITTLE kin AND CAMP THE BOXER AT THE REZ.... NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS A GV CAMP.... BABY'S... Stop trying to ruin my day because you are uncapable of taking on a lousey 6man....who you all say sucks to begin with... This whole forum post is just a grieving of boxers not cool
    I have over 16,000 deaths, friend. When you're reaching that number one more or one thousand more is meaningless. I'm against what you're doing for the reasons I've stated and nothing more. I also know it's not against any rules, I'm saying it should be so I'm unsure what your accusation is to this respect. Google me and multi boxing and you'll find I've cared about this issue long before you started doing it. And I always group with a healer; that's the big complaint about me, son.
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  11. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY SNOWLOCK DIED IN THE MOORS! Oh FRIKING WHAH WHAH WHAH. IT'S TURBINES FAULT I DIDN'T GROUP UP WITH A HEALER! BAN BOXING BLA BLA BLA GROW UP STOP CRYING ABOUT DIEING IN THE MOORS... IT'S NOT AGAINST THE TOS. PERIOD END OF STORY STOP CRYING ON THE FORUMS GO GET YOUR LITTLE kin AND CAMP THE BOXER AT THE REZ.... NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS A GV CAMP.... BABY'S... Stop trying to ruin my day because you are uncapable of taking on a lousey 6man....who you all say sucks to begin with... This whole forum post is just a grieving of boxers not cool
    Sad/funny thing is, if you weren't so obnoxious and didn't deliberately stir people up in ooc, a few of your arguments might have been taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarpelion View Post
    So basically a person that does not want to group with others and therefore boxes is QQing bout freeps not grouping up to fight his oneman group.

    For someone who is saying to stop QQing because they die you sure QQ and rage a lot yourself.

    That irony though
    +1

    Love how this thread has made Brandywine's boxer so immensely angry that he's resorted to crying in all caps and QQ'ing at Snowlock.

    No, it's not agains the TOS to box, that's why we're all posting here you..........!!! Hahah
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  13. #163
    This thread must NOT die.

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    Any thread that reaches 7 pages calling for developer intervention but doesn't even get a blue name response (unless I missed it, which I highly doubt) is not getting one any time soon.
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  15. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by CSM_River View Post
    What we don’t like are bots; we don’t like players who set up third party programs to run a character through cycles of fighting in an effort to level, or gain loot. But multi-boxing is a player who will control all characters.


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    Despite how obvious it is that certain PvMP multi-boxers are not controlling all characters individually, Turbine prefers to look the other way and keep receiving the exploiter's money. So to make things even more obvious, here is proof of the usage of such third party programs that you insist are 'unlikeable'.




    http://www.hotkeynet.com/

    What Is HotkeyNet?

    HotkeyNet is free multiboxing software. It's a hotkey program for gamers who play several characters at the same time. It lets you control several programs on your network from any keyboard no matter which PCs the programs are running on.

    With HotkeyNet, you can perform complex actions involving many characters with a single keystroke no matter which PCs the characters are on.

    Here's a simple example. You could define a hotkey that you press on computer A to perform actions on several computers simultaneously:

    If you want, your hotkeys can be more complex. A keystroke can send commands to one character, two characters, or any number of them. The commands can be the same or different. You can control more than one program on each PC. You can press hotkeys on any keyboard. The same hotkey can do the same things or different things when pressed on different keyboards. A single command can tell each character to do one thing or many things.



    Enforce your own rules.
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  16. #166
    The problem is that even if Turbine would acknowledge it as a problem, it's not feasible to enforce it.
    It's better to go for a large tolerance policy than to make it really strict, so that you don't intentionally ban the wrong accounts, or so you don't ban too many accounts (you don't want to drive your customers away with bans).

    When a player reports someone for multiboxing, to make a proper decision, you need to:
    1. Know all the respective accounts
    2. Have proof that the player's claim is actually true.
    3. In case the player has sent that proof, you need to validate if it has happened before or after the policy change, so you don't retro-actively ban someone.

    For enforcing the rank-farming policy, only the last 3 are an issue, and 3 is solved simply because of the level-cap raise.
    Point 1 is hard, if a player sends a screenshot if someone multiboxing, which of the characters on the screen (assuming the player taking the screenshot has names toggled on) belong to the multiboxer? You'd almost have to require a video as proof, so you can more accurately identify which characters behave typically like multiboxers.

    Considering multiboxers are a good source of income for Turbine, and enforcing an anti-multibox policy would require a lot of GM time, while it'd still not solve the majority of the issue, means it makes no sense to actively stop multiboxers. So the best thing I could imagine to happen is that turbine discourages to multibox in the moors, without any enforcement.
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  17. #167
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  18. #168

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillymala View Post
    But that's my point really, how do you know they have that ability?
    Perhaps I've missed an announcement someplace?
    Can you show me where they said they CAN do this but WON'T?
    I tend to agree with this statement. However, I must honestly say that I have multi boxed since Everquest, through WoW. I see that people hate that, but they do not outlaw it so I press on with pride. Now, while I can synch attacks I tend to avoid that fully for that seems to me to be simply a form of macro use. Whatever. Overall it boils down to this some folks are drivin' around in a corvette, and they think they are fast and deadly, then they get smoked by a Ferrari or Porsche and get angry. While I will not debate that having the ability to control multiple t00ns is a distinct advantage - and that it may seem unfair - it is not illegal nor is it identified in the EULA so feel free to repudiate, vacillate, commiserate, whatever.

  19. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_Scarlotti View Post
    While I will not debate that having the ability to control multiple t00ns is a distinct advantage - and that it may seem unfair - it is not illegal nor is it identified in the EULA so feel free to repudiate, vacillate, commiserate, whatever.
    Well there ya go. That's the Turbine spirit. This is unfair and unsportsmanlike, but ehh....I need to win so whatever.

    Bravo, Turbine. That's quite the atmosphere you've fostered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnhz View Post
    Despite how obvious it is that certain PvMP multi-boxers are not controlling all characters individually, Turbine prefers to look the other way and keep receiving the exploiter's money. So to make things even more obvious, here is proof of the usage of such third party programs that you insist are 'unlikeable'.




    http://www.hotkeynet.com/

    What Is HotkeyNet?

    HotkeyNet is free multiboxing software. It's a hotkey program for gamers who play several characters at the same time. It lets you control several programs on your network from any keyboard no matter which PCs the programs are running on.

    With HotkeyNet, you can perform complex actions involving many characters with a single keystroke no matter which PCs the characters are on.

    Here's a simple example. You could define a hotkey that you press on computer A to perform actions on several computers simultaneously:

    If you want, your hotkeys can be more complex. A keystroke can send commands to one character, two characters, or any number of them. The commands can be the same or different. You can control more than one program on each PC. You can press hotkeys on any keyboard. The same hotkey can do the same things or different things when pressed on different keyboards. A single command can tell each character to do one thing or many things.



    Enforce your own rules.
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  21. #171
    This whole thread is about little old me? This is more of a harassment thread then a petition.... It's all about slamming hatchlings of brandywine... Time to close this thread turbine.. It's already been declared multibox isn't against the TOS... Anyone interested in learning the ways post to me in game and I'll do my best to assist you...

  22. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by superboxer2 View Post
    This whole thread is about little old me?
    Actually, this thread is about people who use third-party programs like ISBoxer or HotKeyNet to multi-box. This thread obviously has NOTHING to do with you since you said you use a long stick with screwdrivers attached to it.

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  23. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    Actually, this thread is about people who use third-party programs like ISBoxer or HotKeyNet to multi-box. This thread obviously has NOTHING to do with you since you said you use a long stick with screwdrivers attached to it.
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  24. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnhz View Post
    Despite how obvious it is that certain PvMP multi-boxers are not controlling all characters individually, Turbine prefers to look the other way and keep receiving the exploiter's money
    Perhaps Turbine's master plan to revive PvMP on many servers (where they've managed to all but kill it) is to encourage more multi-boxing!!!!! If everyone multi-boxes on the low-pop servers, Viola, problem solved!

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    Closing this thread as it is full of anger and attacks. We don't mind debate and discussion, but it needs to be done within the forum guidelines.

 

 
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