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    How is Raid v Raid action across the Servers at the moment?

    Hi there,

    since U13, I was just wondering how many servers have consistent Raid v Raid action at the moment and whether or not it can continue for a good few hours or so like in the old days, or only lasts for a few battles until one side gives up and disbands. This is not general discussion for PVMP action or class balances, plenty of thread there already to discuss all those issues. This is just an enquiry across all servers for feedback whether great raid v raid action is happening on a consistent basis, after all, Dev's have told us very clearly recently they build PVMP for group raid action and the way classes are built discourages 1v1 etc. So, feedback from across the different servers please. State your server and how RvR is on that server atm.

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    From the random RvR I've stumbled across while roaming the map, all I have seen is a terribly laggy heal-ball vs another laggy heal ball.
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    Raid vs Raid is not to be seen on Snowbourn. Only zerg vs zerg.
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    Silverlode is still a GV camp. I guess they are done farming their 1st ages so hopefully they start coming out more though. Started to last night and freeps were slaughtered every fight except one and then when they did finally win a fight they Victory-logged. So maybe were out a good 2 hours or so.

    There are two main freep forces out now. A mediocre kin and a Korean based kin. The Koreans will put up the best post-U13 fights I've seen with just a few of them until of course, the creeps mob up and just gravitate to the action. The other kin really offers nothing but PvEing......"Oh they are out? Check Rottenroot. Check DG." sort of stuff. But unless both groups are on at same time it's nothing but /faceroll time and even when we are fighting both groups we'll hold them off for a long while. Hopefully more freeps will at least try I suppose.
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    Riddermark finally managed to string together decent action this week. It was nice, we got decent infamy, and I think the Freeps came away with some decent morale as well. It was definitely laggy, and healing is ridiculous.
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    Eldars action is poor atm.

    I guess our freeps arent coming out until they are sure they are ready.

    There is ocasionaly a group of 6-12 pushing from gv to tir, but as soon as creeps gets killed 2-3 times, we counter the group and, sadly, make them go back to gv and disband in matter of minutes.
    P.S. we never camp gv in groups, on first "Freeps disbanded", we disband too. And most of the time we keep the counter group limited to their numbers, so never 24grouped vs 6/12.

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    On gladden we are finally getting good freep numbers back out. There has been a lack of freep leaders lately so a lot of times it ends up in less creeps camping more freeps at gv. They seem to be content to sit there for awhile. When they do push out it has been a disorganized mess on there part. The only few times they may have defeated any resemblance of a creep group was with numerical advantage.

    We have also been subject to boxers now. Pre-U13 there was the same two on freepside boxing LMs and Hunters, now they have came over to creepside for the gv camp. They in themselves ruin pvp, but that is a different subject.
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    It is pretty good on Withywindle ATM.
    It got pretty slow after U13 release but gotten a lot better in the past few weeks.

    Now, there is no camps and smallish group action most of the day and one or two RvRs on the high times.
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    Meneldor's a GV camp until we throw at least 8+ freeps together push out of gv and flip tr, then the creeps tend to log or switch to freep, sometimes though theres some big fights if lugz is still red though creeps outnumber the freeps most of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Cryptic View Post
    Meneldor's a GV camp until we throw at least 8+ freeps together push out of gv and flip tr, then the creeps tend to log or switch to freep, sometimes though theres some big fights if lugz is still red though creeps outnumber the freeps most of it
    What I would do in this situation is take a group on the back road, and start flipping stuff in Aradors End.
    The creeps will probably send a group after you and you can get some good fights in while the campers stay at GV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dernudan View Post
    What I would do in this situation is take a group on the back road, and start flipping stuff in Aradors End.
    The creeps will probably send a group after you and you can get some good fights in while the campers stay at GV.
    not on meneldor they wont leave the gv camp until u end it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Cryptic View Post
    not on meneldor they wont leave the gv camp until u end it.
    I am not saying everyone will leave GV, but I am sure some will and then there is bound to be a few creeps wandering the map looking for a fight other than GV.

    Just give it a try with a medium sized group, it definitely worked on Withy, (that's how one of our first raids after U13 started)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dernudan View Post
    I am not saying everyone will leave GV, but I am sure some will and then there is bound to be a few creeps wandering the map looking for a fight other than GV.

    Just give it a try with a medium sized group, it definitely worked on Withy, (that's how one of our first raids after U13 started)
    I think u totally missed what I meant I wasn't complaining about the gv camp we go out we group up and we push them out but if we go pve on the map unless its a warg pack they will not chase after us when theres squishy scaled freeps at GV that's just meneldor mentality and once we flip the map blue the ez moders switch to their freeps to farm grams, same goes if we pull all 3 delving buffs
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    The majority of the action since Monday on Ark has been 6 to 8 people in a 1v1 circle. That's about it Very, very few ppl showing up on either side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dernudan View Post
    It is pretty good on Withywindle ATM.
    It got pretty slow after U13 release but gotten a lot better in the past few weeks.

    Now, there is no camps and smallish group action most of the day and one or two RvRs on the high times.
    Yeah Withy exploded back to life.
    Look 2 weeks of taunting and forum wars but freeps got organised and give us about 4 hours of RvR action most evenings with smaller group during the day.
    Ill give them their due, our freeps they aren't actually the bad players I thought , they had just got lazy.
    Welcome back guys.

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    Windfola

    Windy has been awful. There is maybe one decent fight a day if you are lucky where both sides get kills and from a neutral perspective it looks good. Otherwise its a bunch of Wargs pouncing you then running away when they realise you can actually hit back, Freeps granting the ON (outnumbered buff) to creeps or 2 freeps taking OPs and nothing else. Even the NPCS log off.....
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    Laurelin is pretty much awfull now. Either theres ganking going on and no one trying to solo or it's healzerg v healzerg and one who stacks more healers wins and the opposing side quits in boredom pretty quickly.

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    I play Evernight from 5pm US time and on so my experience is different as I'm not in prime time I guess.

    This past week aside from last night has been totally dull.. deadsville with many creeps but few freeps. Last night we got some decent action but freeps were completely outnumbered for a long time. Seeing a lot of new creeps lately
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    To all of you people on servers with bad RvR.
    I reccomend that you try to bring people from your kin to the moors on both creep and freep side, and SHOW THEM THE ROPES. Help them get their first few ranks.

    Many people do not know about the Ettenmoors and others went in but got frustrated and quit, never to return. If you bring those players into the Ettenmoors, and let them have an informed decision, population will increase significantly and everyone will experience better action.
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    The last couple of weeks, we've started getting better, more consistent action on Arkenstone, again. The number of people playing (on each side) is averaging about half what it used to be, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    The last couple of weeks, we've started getting better, more consistent action on Arkenstone, again. The number of people playing (on each side) is averaging about half what it used to be, though.
    I hope the action keeps getting better.
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    Raid vs. raid is pretty much dead on any server I've seen. Ironic given the developers have claimed the game is balanced for rvr, not 1v1. They got it half right at least: lots of Raid vs. 1 going on.

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    Brandy is still usually a GV camp.

    Typically about 10 - 15 creeps on the hill and about the same amount of freeps hugging the one-shotters at the trees. Mostly Defilers, WL's BA's and Spiders.

    Although there are more RvR's happening these days.

    Craids are usually heal stacked pretty thick with defilers, so actually taking a target down has to happen in the first 5-7 seconds or fughetaboutit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepbrother View Post
    Raid vs. raid is pretty much dead on any server I've seen. Ironic given the developers have claimed the game is balanced for rvr, not 1v1. They got it half right at least: lots of Raid vs. 1 going on.
    I think the reason behind lack of numbers isn't really the fault of PvP problems. It goes long way to pve aswell. Theres absolutely zero things to do end game wise, only these epic fail battles which are really not my cup of tea and same instances we've been doing for 4 years. Not even going to start listing what I dislike currently :P. Game is simplified and catered towards casuals, lack of challenge, which cause alot of people to abandon this boat. So yes, while the recent changes to pvp obviously contribute to this main reason for dwindling numbers in pvp really is in pve and reading the plans for the remainder of year nothings going to change most likely.

    Main reason for many of us being here is that theres really nothing even remotely close to what Lotro has to offer. MMORPG set in Middle-Earth, sure, the quality of content has fallen throughout the years but still, theres nothing like Lotro and hope for better future keeps me here. And the fact I still enjoy this game from time to time.

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    Perhaps at some point, the LoTRO folks should start thinking about server consolidations. On smaller servers, the action must be nearly dead. I imagine that LoTRO is hesitant to do this because it would be admitting that the game is in serious decline numbers-wise, but anyone who spends any time playing knows that already. Server consolidations could breath some new life into things, imho.

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