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  1. #26
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    I got a [Black Huorn With Honeycomb] housing item from mine.

    Small Yard, gold quality, non-interactible housing item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brya View Post
    I got a [Black Huorn With Honeycomb] housing item from mine.

    Small Yard, gold quality, non-interactible housing item.
    Ok, well that confirms the gift boxes are random.

    I'll pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LethalLethality View Post
    "It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time to say anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to."
    Thanks! That is the one I was trying to remember correctly.
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    10 leaves. Oh well, at least I was able to start on the next one right away.

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    pfff the huorn pet was about the only thing that was keeping me with any slight interest in carrying on with those dailies, now it seems it too is subject to this RNG nonsense, I wont bother, no way am I going to grind out the same quests over and over again for a CHANCE at a cosmetic pet, they were not exactly fun the first time through. Guess I will pop back in for u14 and see what that brings.

    Smallest update yet in terms of new content, and padded out with another dull grind, nah not for me if thats the new direction the game is taking I certainly wont be parting with cash for it.

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    Well:
    ''You have acquired: [Orofarnë's Memory].''
    You have acquired: [10 Fangorn Leaves].

    Exciting. At least this one only took 3 days rather than 5.

    Also, the Lassemista seed quest seems to be quicker to do the daily for at least, all I had to do this day was bow to the ancient tree. Good time efficiency for a daily.
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    *Opens Orofarnes Memory*
    *Gets ten leaves*


    Useless rewards. ;_;


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    The sooner Turbine patches this so that there is a guaranteed award of the pet after x number (say 10) of awards then the better. I can see many people getting frustrated and giving up with this.
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  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by frickinmuck View Post
    I was exaggerating a bit, but not much. I've noticed more and more players seem to want - not even want, but expect - everything now. More and more they reject the notion of striving for something over months or yeah - years. I personally love achievements that don't come easy. That's part of what makes them special. This is the type of thing I tend to put a lot of time and effort into - just so I may eventually get that thing I really want that few others have. Like Ivar's Helm - something I MUST have.
    Be careful of straying into generalisations, but yes peoples attention spans are shorter now. We have so many more distractions nowadays, so many good games to play, let alone all the other distractions of the modern age. LOTRO must adapt to stay relevant.

    The overall effort isnt much (well if you camp your toons there and just log into do the dailies), and I think most people aren't concerned about waiting 5 days for a reward, its just the crushing disappointment of waiting so long for so little, especially when you need 100 tokens for a 1-shot recipe!!

    Its almost like they burned down Hytbold (again) and replaced it with a casino! At least with Hytbold we could measure our progress through the deed tracker and see an end in sight.
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    Here's an idea:

    Make a daily quest around farming/growing that increases your chance of getting a good reward the longer you continue to do dailies, ie choosing just the right time to pick fruit instead if picking it too early when it isn't fully ripe or full size.

    This will allow each player to select a risk/reward profile that suits them. They can choose to get a reward after one day for a small reward and a very small chance of a big reward, or continue doing dailies for longer (say 5 days) to get a better base reward and a higher chance at a big reward. This may offser something to both the "here/now" crowd and the grinders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by q945 View Post
    Be careful of straying into generalisations
    I'm not 'straying into generalizations', I am making my own observations based on the sentiment of players I've seen in-game and on the forums. You admit yourself that people are leaning more toward instant gratification. Now, I didn't say that that tendency shouldn't be accommodated in some way. I have nothing against some rewards that come more easily, but I wouldn't want to see that happen at the expense of bigger challenges and higher stakes. There needs to be some prizing, some goals, that are rare and difficult to achieve to accommodate those of us who are bored by straight up bartering. I would rather see those challenges be for fluff than for important items such as gear. The whole RNG approach to gear has always bugged me in BB for example, where you can grind and grind and keep getting the same item over and over again.

    Personally, the reward that most needs changing in Fangorn is the pricing of items from the faction barterers. There is actually a suggestion thread here about that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frickinmuck View Post
    There needs to be some prizing, some goals, that are rare and difficult to achieve to accommodate those of us who are bored by straight up bartering. I would rather see those challenges be for fluff than for important items such as gear.
    What is challenging and/or difficult about having bad luck or good luck after several days of rinse-and-repeat quests?

    I understand that they want to gate the Huorn pet reward in some way (to make it something that is special and desirable to obtain) but in this case a) the Seed quests are not that interesting and b) there appears to be a very small chance at the ultimate payoff. I think that one better way would have been to have a barter system (e.g., 20 or so 'seed' tokens) for one or two of the pets that would result in a guaranteed outcome after so many repetitions, PLUS a RNG chance at the super-special rare pet which is available to those individuals who enjoy or at least don't mind the repetitive "challenge" of continuing to do the quests until they obtain this reward by virtue of good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanteIL View Post
    What is challenging and/or difficult about having bad luck or good luck after several days of rinse-and-repeat quests?
    The smaller the chance of getting a desired reward, the more difficult it is to get, luck or no. That seems fairly obvious to me. Sure, it's not the same level/type of challenge as Ivar's Helm, but I am personally glad that there is no guarantee of getting the huorn pet. It means it's a lot more special if/when I finally do get it. And because there are 3 versions, the chances of getting any one specific huorn is even lower. I like that. Just like Nanu's hding place, or the statue of Draigoch, or Draigoch's fireplace - these are all items that are exciting to get. They would be a lot less exciting if everyone had a guarantee of getting them after a certain amount of tries.

    The possibility of lucking out and getting Draigoch's fireplace, or the statue, makes me excited to run Draigoch. The chance of getting a huorn makes me excited to run the seed quests. As much as people complain, if they really want the huorn pet the will keep running them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frickinmuck View Post
    The possibility of lucking out and getting Draigoch's fireplace, or the statue, makes me excited to run Draigoch. The chance of getting a huorn makes me excited to run the seed quests. As much as people complain, if they really want the huorn pet the will keep running them too.
    Just an observation, but there is a substantial difference between when following the downing of a raid boss getting a lucky roll on an ancillary item and relying on a lucky roll to obtain the main item.

    The first is the cherry on a very nice cake.

    The second is no cake at all and starting over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BangoTwinkletoes View Post
    Just an observation, but there is a substantial difference between when following the downing of a raid boss getting a lucky roll on an ancillary item and relying on a lucky roll to obtain the main item.

    The first is the cherry on a very nice cake.

    The second is no cake at all and starting over.
    No, there is no difference. Because it seems clear that the pet, or the housing item, or any other cool tidbit they've added that we don't yet know about, is not the main item. The leaves are. We've just all assumed that the pet was the main item because we're all excited about getting one.

    And the Draigoch cake is not all that nice, nor is the Filikul one. I've run both many many times and almost always get nothing out of it but the fun. In all my years of playing I've never once gotten a scale from that stingy dragon, and nary a housing item!! In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever been in a run where the fireplace or statue dropped. I do have Nanu's but I do the turtle almost every day. I've never gotten the recipe, not once in that time, nor have I been in a run where I saw it drop. Such is the luck of the draw. I don't mind, I will keep doing them all until I have everything I want from them.

  16. #41
    Finished Lassemista's Seed quest. Opened the gift box and got the snowy huron pet. Since there are three pets and three quest lines Im guessing that each quest line has a chance for a specific one of the three pets. Now that I have the snowy huron I'll start grinding the other 2 quests.

    Best part of the pet.... When my burg goes into stealth the pet remains visible and still follows him around. This should make for some fun out in the moors.... (*Imagines a creep seeing something odd approaching and wondering what it is right before my burg ambushes him*)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystarr View Post
    Finished Lassemista's Seed quest. Opened the gift box and got the snowy huron pet. Since there are three pets and three quest lines Im guessing that each quest line has a chance for a specific one of the three pets. Now that I have the snowy huron I'll start grinding the other 2 quests.

    Best part of the pet.... When my burg goes into stealth the pet remains visible and still follows him around. This should make for some fun out in the moors.... (*Imagines a creep seeing something odd approaching and wondering what it is right before my burg ambushes him*)
    Congrats! I love the burg thing. LOL. What a great notion - to be able to essentially run around as a huorn. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystarr View Post
    Finished Lassemista's Seed quest. Opened the gift box and got the snowy huron pet. Since there are three pets and three quest lines Im guessing that each quest line has a chance for a specific one of the three pets. Now that I have the snowy huron I'll start grinding the other 2 quests.
    You able to post a screenshot? I've no idea what the snowy one looks like.
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    I'm not at home right now, but I'll post a screenshot later tonight. Its basically a very short (shorter than my hobbit) tree with no leaves and snow all over all of its branches. Not surprisingly, it looks very out of place in town or on green fields of grass etc, but it looks nice when you are wandering around on a map with snow.

    Edit: It's worth noting that the reward box gave me a non-bound deed that I used to learn the snowy huron pet skill. That means the pet reward is trade-able and could be sold on the AH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frickinmuck View Post
    I don't think there's any real evidence to support that theory. So far everyone I've seen complete it has gotten the same thing - 10 leaves. So it's possible there is another step or quest that rewards the pet.
    Someone on dwarrowdelf has one of these pets, and they do rarely drop from the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie1435 View Post
    Someone on dwarrowdelf has one of these pets, and they do rarely drop from the box.
    Any chance that person has kept track of their personal drop rate/box opening results? Especially if they're running it on multiple alts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie1435 View Post
    Someone on dwarrowdelf has one of these pets, and they do rarely drop from the box.
    Yeah, it's been confirmed a few times in this thread as well, that it's random. I'm actually glad that it is. I love having another thing to work towards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystarr View Post
    It's worth noting that the reward box gave me a non-bound deed that I used to learn the snowy huron pet skill. That means the pet reward is trade-able and could be sold on the AH.[/B]
    This is at least a good thing. It should mean that duplicates can be sent to alts or kinnies, or sold on the AH.

    I do agree with many others here, however, that a guaranteed means of earning one of these would have been much more preferable, even if the leaf cost was something like 400. It could have even been combined with the random rewards from the boxes, so that there's both the RNG factor and the saving factor for those who are not so lucky.

    If nothing else, hopefully the drop rates or number of days to get each box is looked at in a future update when the content is less fresh.

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    I got a black decorative hourn for my yard for my 1st gift box. Seems good enough for Halloween theme. Too bad that it does not shake its leaves like real hourn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    I got a black decorative hourn for my yard for my 1st gift box. Seems good enough for Halloween theme. Too bad that it does not shake its leaves like real hourn
    I would have preferred it to be animated too. Maybe Turbine can add it retroactively if a dev has some free time.

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