Quote Originally Posted by BangoTwinkletoes View Post
This thread keeps delving into the same old territory of trying to categorise gamers according to an arbitrary game style and even worse make judgements as to the future course of the game as a result. That is dangerous ground to say the least, notwithstanding the fact that some awfully large assumptions are being made by people without a shred of evidence to back it up.

So, to try and move away from that I'd like people on this forum to consider the following:

1. Given that Turbine are selling LOTRO in what is a very competitive market place, can anyone name me any top tier MMO (fantasy, sci-fi, don't mind) that does not have either raiding or pvp as part of it's core proposition?

2. Given that the overall strategy pursued by the ex-producers was to downgrade raiding, group content and pvp (as evidenced by HD) and given that strategy was not exactly a roaring success, then what does that tell us as to what the game needs to refocus on?

First and foremost the current executive producer needs to come up with a strategy that delivers two things - gets people playing again and it gets people spending money. I don't see any evidence that tells me that the solo oriented game that is HD was delivering those goods. Because without revenue, without people playing the game, spending money and telling their friends, family & colleagues to play the game, then the story is not going to be finished.

So, let's stop putting LOTRO players into pigeon holes, making assumptions as to what % of players may or may not do in game and instead start to look at why the game is where it is now, because it's not in a good place) and what can be done to get it back on track - because I'd quite like to see the rest of the story too.

Like so many posts, the first sentence of this one starts off strong and the second is a solid follow up. Then it goes and does exactly what it warns against. A lot of subjective comments.

Unfortunately it's now pretty clear that we've exhausted the discussion of Aaron's letter (I did ask twice to stay on topic and please stop wandering off on tangents).