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    Increasing number of exploiters

    More people exploiting each day. Today on Eldar a cappie was in DG tyrant room for hours trying to solo the tyrant and take the relic. Each time he was attacked by creeps and looked like he would die, he simply logged off in combat to avoid death. As I said, this was going on for hours. Numerous tickets closed, no action taken. Macro-exploiters; yellow traited cappies deliberately bugging 1-shotters at grams to turn them against creeps. Many, many tickets, all of the players involved still playing.

    Subscription cancelled today. I have had enough.

    Big Elder Scrolls Online beta this weekend...

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    And every automated response ends with "Thank you for helping us maintain a great community", or something like that. Oh irony.
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    From the Armour bug in SOA Book 9 to the keep flag being flippable without the CG/tyrant being dead to the warleader invulnerability bug, Turbine has shown that they WILL NOT hotfix for PVMP issues.

    I'm not sure what the issue is with the one-shotters, but I'd look for a change to the logout process which requires a non-combat state in the next patch. Until then, keep waiting for that cap to log back in
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    I was retired for 2 years and came back with HD release mainly for friends that still play the game, but also to see how things are.

    PvE side of view, things were not just terrible. It felt like a mini game for 10 year old kids that know only how to kill trash mobs. Going in on t2 instances or t2 challenge mode lvl cap raids, and facerolling everything with healer or tank being completelly optional. Other than that no end game content at all. Got the best gear available in 1 week after I lvl'ed 95 and after that no reason to do PvE.

    PvP side of view, terrible class ballance (worst ever in my opinion), some game-breaking cooldowns, unscaled major things (creep morale- creep ooc regen, freep npc damage or npc's in general), 10s logout timer, and massive access to exploits on both sides.

    Sorry Turbine but I won't pay you anymore when you don't even bother finishing a product before you release it on the market.

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    Reported many freeps few months ago with screens of exploiting and everything, and not one is banned.

    I'd also like to mention the insane lagg spikes that have appared since last update, i lagg about every 6nd or 10th second which makes it impossible to stay in melee range.

    Sorry to say but i have a hard time even bothering logging in, even more so since it's quite death even on BW now. Ruined game

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    I thought it was well known that Turbine doesn't care about exploiters?

    They care more about people creating multiple forum accounts and repping themselves than they do exploiters and multiboxers in their PVP area.

    As a pre-emptive strike on the infraction being lobbed at me, I just want to say the truth is (or should be) a defense against infractions.

    If that doesn't work, I'm bubbling up and sprinting.

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    I was going to start a thread on a similar topic with a very different perspective.

    First and foremost, the various 'macro' 'fast skill' exploits, and combat loggging, and bugging 1-shots, and permanent damage immunity, and the host of other exploitable bugs do indeed need to be addressed.

    However, as someone who has never used ANY exploits on a pvp or pve opponent (heck, I relog my warden every time I get the range bug) and has made some serious attempts to raise awareness and offer insight into how some of them work with the Devs, it was rather troubling getting the following sent to me today while creeping:


    no subsequent tells were responded to, either.

    So a few questions in this regard. I'm of the understanding that SOME of the exploits currently prevalent in the moors are being looked at including the one I've apparently been warned against using, though I have no idea when any potential patches or fixes can be expected.

    Is anything being done to ensure that GMs can actually tell if an exploit is being used?
    Should I be concerned about actions being taken against my account for simply playing the game as it was designed and intended, WITHOUT use of any 'macros' or other forms of exploits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelunker View Post
    trash

    A reliable source tells me you were 'testing' the exploit out at the time of report. GET BUSTED then come cry about it on the forums, my friend.
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    Does this mean I've been re-excommunicated from the alliance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelunker View Post
    Does this mean I've been re-excommunicated from the alliance?
    In 4 moves.

    Wait...that's a different forum theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spelunker View Post
    Does this mean I've been re-excommunicated from the alliance?
    Confirmation that he was exploiting at the time.

    Those who can exploit and get away with it, do. Those who can't, are in ANV

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    Quote Originally Posted by spelunker View Post
    I was going to start a thread on a similar topic with a very different perspective.

    First and foremost, the various 'macro' 'fast skill' exploits, and combat loggging, and bugging 1-shots, and permanent damage immunity, and the host of other exploitable bugs do indeed need to be addressed.

    However, as someone who has never used ANY exploits on a pvp or pve opponent (heck, I relog my warden every time I get the range bug) and has made some serious attempts to raise awareness and offer insight into how some of them work with the Devs, it was rather troubling getting the following sent to me today while creeping:


    no subsequent tells were responded to, either.

    So a few questions in this regard. I'm of the understanding that SOME of the exploits currently prevalent in the moors are being looked at including the one I've apparently been warned against using, though I have no idea when any potential patches or fixes can be expected.

    Is anything being done to ensure that GMs can actually tell if an exploit is being used?
    Should I be concerned about actions being taken against my account for simply playing the game as it was designed and intended, WITHOUT use of any 'macros' or other forms of exploits?
    If it's any consolation, Pounces... I think we've met several times in the brandy moors (or there's another warg with your same name who likes to gank me). I actually enjoy finding you because other than doing normal warg-y things like hipsing and calling in your pack .. not to be taken as an insult... you're generally a straight up fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit1710 View Post
    you're generally a straight up fight.
    Macro exploiting is 'straight up'? My Alliance and the GM disagrees, my friend.
    Those who can exploit and get away with it, do. Those who can't, are in ANV

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrantLove View Post
    Macro exploiting is 'straight up'? My Alliance and the GM disagrees, my friend.
    If he's done to me in a fight, Either it was a fail or I haven't noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelunker View Post
    I was going to start a thread on a similar topic with a very different perspective.

    First and foremost, the various 'macro' 'fast skill' exploits, and combat loggging, and bugging 1-shots, and permanent damage immunity, and the host of other exploitable bugs do indeed need to be addressed.

    However, as someone who has never used ANY exploits on a pvp or pve opponent (heck, I relog my warden every time I get the range bug) and has made some serious attempts to raise awareness and offer insight into how some of them work with the Devs, it was rather troubling getting the following sent to me today while creeping:


    no subsequent tells were responded to, either.

    So a few questions in this regard. I'm of the understanding that SOME of the exploits currently prevalent in the moors are being looked at including the one I've apparently been warned against using, though I have no idea when any potential patches or fixes can be expected.

    Is anything being done to ensure that GMs can actually tell if an exploit is being used?
    Should I be concerned about actions being taken against my account for simply playing the game as it was designed and intended, WITHOUT use of any 'macros' or other forms of exploits?

    Me and my friend got the same treatment. Someone (i actually know now who he was) reported us. Both got ticketted, no answer from gm.
    both sent sapience pm's no answer yet. Made a topic about it, got trolled, laughed at and called a macro cheater. All this only to get an infraction. Like you probably will get. Fair?

    After having a closer look, could be even the same gm in all 3 of our cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faildget View Post
    Me and my friend got the same treatment. Someone (i actually know now who he was) reported us. Both got ticketted, no answer from gm.
    both sent sapience pm's no answer yet. Made a topic about it, got trolled, laughed at and called a macro cheater. All this only to get an infraction. Like you probably will get. Fair?

    After having a closer look, could be even the same gm in all 3 of our cases.
    Yep, it looks like GMs are just taking reports from vindictive or paranoid people to be the truth, without actually checking whether it is true. Very professional.
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    Turbine does like it's exploiters...always has. Amusing, but not unsurprising, that now they're letting the exploiters abuse the reporting mechanism by filing false reports against people they don't like and giving warnings to honest players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SongSinger View Post
    More people exploiting each day. Today on Eldar a cappie was in DG tyrant room for hours trying to solo the tyrant and take the relic. Each time he was attacked by creeps and looked like he would die, he simply logged off in combat to avoid death. As I said, this was going on for hours. Numerous tickets closed, no action taken. Macro-exploiters; yellow traited cappies deliberately bugging 1-shotters at grams to turn them against creeps. Many, many tickets, all of the players involved still playing.

    Subscription cancelled today. I have had enough.

    Big Elder Scrolls Online beta this weekend...
    I never seen this happen with the grams one shotters, Though I have seen a whole creep Raid combat log when they were running. So I am sure there are Freeps who do the same. Though I did feel for the Auto flip a few days back when 10+ Creeps were standing in it. Yet that was until the 20+ ran me over and Corps jumped me a few times. That feeling went away. lmao

    Macros with Wargs and Burgs is a issue mentioned by all. As we need our Hunters to be able to track a warg in stealth again to make this harder to abuse. Warg stealth hits, uses macros the hip and runs if they can't get an auto kill.

    I have read some say something about yellow traited Cappies but dismiss it as they complain about Guardians in Creep side.

    (( seems as though they care more about BS like the winter fest than anything else. Last I thought people didn't have to pay extra for the festivals, but they do for pvp.. perhaps you should address the issues of your paying customers rather than garbage festivals and emotes.))

    I agree with this part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draithenz1971 View Post
    Though I have seen a whole creep Raid combat log when they were running.
    Does anyone even read the #### this guy writes? LOL

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Draithenz1971 View Post
    Though I have seen a whole creep Raid combat log when they were running.
    No you haven't. You have to stand still to log off. You can't log off while moving. You did not see a creep raid log off en masse while running.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draithenz1971 View Post
    Though I did feel for the Auto flip a few days back when 10+ Creeps were standing in it.
    Also didn't happen. Keeps don't flip when there's someone in it.

    Keep making stuff up though, it's almost as entertaining as your contention that creeps are overpowered vs freeps and always have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmas_Eldar View Post
    No you haven't. You have to stand still to log off. You can't log off while moving. You did not see a creep raid log off en masse while running.
    To be fair you can hit auto-run then just Alt + F4 or type /exit.
    Only way i know you can log while running
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exion_Blade View Post
    To be fair you can hit auto-run then just Alt + F4 or type /exit.
    Only way i know you can log while running
    All I know is we were chasing them and they combat logged on the others side of the river from Lug rez. Not sure what they did. All I know is they went poof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmas_Eldar View Post
    No you haven't. You have to stand still to log off. You can't log off while moving. You did not see a creep raid log off en masse while running.


    Also didn't happen. Keeps don't flip when there's someone in it.

    Keep making stuff up though, it's almost as entertaining as your contention that creeps are overpowered vs freeps and always have been.
    I did forget to say it was Lug Rez. No less than Creeps who keep crying Freeps are OP as Creeps try to get our Guards nerfed.. Tough 4 to 6 Freeps beating on a creep to get a kill seems to me there OP. lol
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