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    Helm's Deep BetaTester Guides on Changes

    This is a thread just to help us share where all the guides are that we've been making. Note this is not all my own work but the work of multiple beta testers who have all taken a lot of time to gather information to be shared. In this post I'm just gathering it all up.


    Traits
    How Trait Trees Work
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ait-Trees-Work

    The New Trait Window
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...w-Trait-Window

    Trait Tree Guide including Quickbar interactions
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...87#post6990787

    Video on Trait Trees
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...eo-Trait-Trees

    What Choice Do I Have? A deeper look at the Trait Trees
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...he-Trait-Trees

    Trait Points And How Do You Get Them
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...83#post6985383

    Trait Tree Calculator (Not fully finished)
    http://www.barneybarn.host-ed.me/lotrottp.php

    Classes

    Class Changes Videos by LotROPlayers
    http://lotroplayers.mymiddleearth.co...st-look-index/

    http://lotroplayers.mymiddleearth.co...a-deeper-look/

    Class Guides
    Burglars https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ummary-Burglar

    Captains https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ummary-Captain

    Champions https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...mmary-Champion

    Guardians https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...mmary-Guardian

    Hunters https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Summary-Hunter

    Loremasters https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ry-Lore-master

    Minstrels https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...mmary-Minstrel

    Runekeepers https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ry-Rune-Keeper

    Wardens https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Summary-Warden

    Some Extra Warden Information
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?532207-Warden-12-0-Das-(re)Boot-(Or-More-than-you-probably-wanted-to-know-about-the-HD-Warden)

    Class Deed Changes
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...s-deed-changes


    Epic Battles/Big Battles/Battle For Helm's Deep

    Battle For Helm's Deep A General Guide - A Promotion Guide has been added to this
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-General-Guide

    Jewelery Set Bonuses
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ry-Set-Bonuses

    Big Battles Tips
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...de-for-Newbies

    Big Battle Side Quest Guide
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...de-Quest-Guide

    Scaled Instance Loot List - Update 12.1 [Official]
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...25#post7043125


    Legendary Items

    There are new Eorolingas Star-Lit Crystals, Crystals of Remembrance, Delving, Empowerment. None of the prices are final at the moment so we can't state those.
    There are no Level 95 First Ages yet. There are Level 95 2nd ages. The new 2nd age symbol is Flawed Symbol of Celembribor.
    Level 85+ LIs that are deconstructed at IXP Level 30+ will generate Level 95 Legacy Scrolls.

    Legacies information
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Legacy-Changes

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...11#post6980911

    Legacy List as of Build 6
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-s-Deep-beta-6

    Relics
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Relic-Changes


    Virtues
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Western-Rohan

    Deed Log Tracker v2.0
    https://sites.google.com/site/wintersongofarda/deeds

    Crafting
    Tier 9 reputation costs 90K.
    The new shard/flake/sigil/crest is an Emerald Shard.
    The new ore is Low Grade Eorlingas Skarn.
    The new wood is Walnut Logs.
    The new hides are Eorlingas Hides.
    The new scholar material are Tattered Riddermark Text
    For Cooks there are new cooking ingredients on vendors. A new tier of Honey and some other ingredients.


    Crafting Changes
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...afting-Changes

    Helm's Deep Crafted Level 95 Armors Cloaks and Shields
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ks-and-Shields

    Housing Chest Changes
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Chest-Changes

    Mithril Coins
    Mithril Coin Traders
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-Coin-Traders

    Mithril Coin Prices
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Mithril-Costs

    Combat
    Understanding Threat Mechanics

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...g-Threat-in-HD

    Combat Changes for Gear Swapping
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Gear-Swapping

    Travel Skill Changes
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Skill-Changes

    Maps of Helm's Deep/Westemnet/West Rohan
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-(Helm-s-Deep)

    L85 and L95 End Game Changes
    There are no Level 95 Set Bonus Armours.
    There are Level 95 Armours that drop from scaled instances.
    There are Level 95 Crafted Armours and Jewelry. Look at the Crafting section for links to details on this.
    There are Level 95 Set Bonus Jewelry from Epic Battles/Big Battles/Battle For Helm's Deep Instances. Look at the Epic Battles section for a link to details on this.
    The Erebor Tier 2 Challenge Deed can now only be completed at 95.
    The Erebor Tier 1 and Tier 2 Deeds that required you to be level 85 to complete can be completed at any level 85 and above.

    Seal Changes
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...p-Seal-Changes

    Loot List for End Game
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Loot-List-WIP

    *If I have missed any of the information guides/posts any of you have made please feel free to comment and I'll try and watch to update the OP.*
    Last edited by PKCrichton; Jan 03 2014 at 04:50 PM.

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    Thanks.

    This should help keep your important listing to the fore...
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    Good work compiling all those links, Chricton. Maybe we can get this thread stickied?
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    +100 rep if possible, thanks!
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    Find me on Steam and ESO, same name.

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    Added a new thread on Mithril Coin prices for things other than the Mithril Traders.

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    Added a new thread on Helm's Deep Crafted Level 95 Armors Cloaks and Shields

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    Thanks for the compilation. I thought I had seen most of the new info from Beta until I saw your links.

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    Added a thread about how the new trait window works.

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    Nice work. Very useful

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    Thumbs up

    Thanks so much for this. So much easier than trying to use 'search' function.

    And the minstrel sang to them……”and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness.”

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    Added a video another tester made for Trait Trees.

    Did some formatting of the thread to try and make it a little easier to locate what you want to find.

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    Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldin View Post
    Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?
    change the colour settings on your screen.

    or,

    wait 10 days.
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    All the guides linked in the OP are just-the-facts lists of changes. So, any rose-tinting you see is coming from your monitor settings, as bohbashum suggests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldin View Post
    Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?
    As bohbashum and furtim stated these guides are the straight up facts about what exists. The comments there after are not rose colored glasses at all but what people have actually experienced. Yes the classes are not perfect. Yes we have all lost some things we have had for years but for the most part there are a lot of good changes in here. We still hope to fine tune them and get some of those lost aspects that we all find necessary to given roles added back in if not for launch then hopefully for an update later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldin View Post
    Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?
    Grtz, you made me laugh.. This player community reaction is so bad its getting to be funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by bohbashum View Post
    change the colour settings on your screen.

    or,

    wait 10 days.
    Sad, but true.

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    Added a thread with the Big Battle Jewelry Set Bonuses.

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    Here's list of legacies for all classes based on Beta 6:

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-s-Deep-beta-6

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKCrichton View Post
    Added a thread with the Big Battle Jewelry Set Bonuses.
    The link the the BB Jewelry Set Bonuses redirects to the forum homepage, probably a glitch.
    Did everyone get a bugged signature? My BB code doesn't work anymore
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    For those who missed it-the OP has provided us with a continually updated list, by topic set out under headings, of all links to player guide forum threads. This should be top of page 1. ./beg

    And the minstrel sang to them……”and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness.”

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    Could Someone At Turbine Please Sticky This Thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilean-EU View Post
    Here's list of legacies for all classes based on Beta 6:

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-s-Deep-beta-6

    Updated the list with your thread. Thanks.

    Also updated the LI information as 85 LIs will generate 95 Legacy scrolls now.


    Quote Originally Posted by robbie1435 View Post
    The link the the BB Jewelry Set Bonuses redirects to the forum homepage, probably a glitch.
    This appears to be working for me. My guess is as you said simply a glitch.


    BTW to those posting their thread links in here Thank You. It takes time to sort through all the different places we have to post thread that I'm sure some are missed here and there.
    Last edited by PKCrichton; Nov 11 2013 at 09:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKCrichton View Post
    This appears to be working for me. My guess is as you said simply a glitch.
    Nope.. goes nowhere (forum home page) for me too. Probably 1.) the page is in your cache or 2.) because Turbine is redoing the stats and that is mis-information so they deleted the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlgon View Post
    Nope.. goes nowhere (forum home page) for me too. Probably 1.) the page is in your cache or 2.) because Turbine is redoing the stats and that is mis-information so they deleted the thread.
    lol ok i know what the issue is I"ll see about fixing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKCrichton View Post
    Also updated the LI information as 85 LIs will generate 95 Legacy scrolls now.
    Thanks for this! Great news, really apprechiated.

    Does it also work on already extracted 85-legacies? (In which case my incredible lazines in vault-cleaning before expansions finally would pay off...)

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