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  1. #176
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    There is still no change to the Set Bonus for the HD jewelry. Is this a change that just didn't make it into this build?
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  2. #177
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    Please, please change it so that WoL is not a consumer of C+R orbs. It makes no sense to have WoL be a consumer of C+R orbs. If you use WoL once while C+R is up, you get all the debuffs you're going to get out of it. Additional uses of WoL provide no benefit; they just burn through more orbs. WoL is a spam skill. Having a spam skill as a consumer of C+R orbs means you either don't use the skill when C+R is up to avoid burning through all your orbs in seconds, or you use it and burn through all your orbs in seconds. Neither option is a good option. As it is, C+R is kind of a meh skill. With so many of our lightening skills being orb consumers, all the benefits of C+R disappear very quickly. With a three minute CD, this is a rather underwhelming capstone skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    @Jinjaah~

    Please, please change it so that WoL is not a consumer of C+R orbs. It makes no sense to have WoL be a consumer of C+R orbs. If you use WoL once while C+R is up, you get all the debuffs you're going to get out of it. Additional uses of WoL provide no benefit; they just burn through more orbs. WoL is a spam skill. Having a spam skill as a consumer of C+R orbs means you either don't use the skill when C+R is up to avoid burning through all your orbs in seconds, or you use it and burn through all your orbs in seconds. Neither option is a good option. As it is, C+R is kind of a meh skill. With so many of our lightening skills being orb consumers, all the benefits of C+R disappear very quickly. With a three minute CD, this is a rather underwhelming capstone skill.
    C&R as no doubt discussed countless times in this immensely long thread, is terrible. It has one lovely use (EC bleed) and the rest is just nerfing your rotation and playing awkwardly, to avoid using up all your "orbs" as you put it, before your EC comes off CD again. Would be great if C&R had a 1min 30 CD, made your next EC do double damage, or auto-crit or something, and that was it. My targets have 3 WoL debuffs on them before I even reach the attunement & buffs required to use EC on them so, totally useless buff.

    RK also needs a SLOW in Lightning line, it's nuts having to use a 3min CD for a 10 second duration slow, half of which is eaten up by the stun! lol
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  4. #179
    I'd like to see them ditch C+R, and give RKs the old PI back again. A number of the skills they 'reworked' in HD ended up being skill nerfs.... not to mention the 9 skills we lost that were replaced by 6 skills that are not as good as what we lost in HD. No love in HD for RKs, that's for sure. They're just now getting around to fixing things like BI so that they're actually decent skills.

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    Make C&R passive trait proccing at crits or devasts.
    Problem solved.
    fire rk is just hunt clone without evade, ports and lower mits, or LM clone without CC, pets and 1 less gear slot.
    thx for destroying yellow line and the entire class with it

  6. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    C&R as no doubt discussed countless times in this immensely long thread, is terrible. It has one lovely use (EC bleed) and the rest is just nerfing your rotation and playing awkwardly, to avoid using up all your "orbs" as you put it, before your EC comes off CD again. Would be great if C&R had a 1min 30 CD, made your next EC do double damage, or auto-crit or something, and that was it. My targets have 3 WoL debuffs on them before I even reach the attunement & buffs required to use EC on them so, totally useless buff.

    RK also needs a SLOW in Lightning line, it's nuts having to use a 3min CD for a 10 second duration slow, half of which is eaten up by the stun! lol
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    Jinjah please dont listen to these failures qqing about rks being nerfed :/, fix BB jewels and WoL using orbs and we're good

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    Would be nice to get word on what is up with Glorious Foreshadowing too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaelon View Post
    I know you guys on the forums like to just dismiss everything I say
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaelon View Post
    Jinjah please dont listen to these failures qqing about rks being nerfed :/, fix BB jewels and WoL using orbs and we're good
    And you wonder why? Could it be because you agree with some of what RKs are asking for, but can't pass up an opportunity to talk trash?

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  10. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    And you wonder why? Could it be because you agree with some of what RKs are asking for, but can't pass up an opportunity to talk trash?
    Not at all, RK is not a nerfed/broken class like all of you on the forums seem to think. You all just whine about everything, the only thing broken about the RK is the BB set bonuses, sure there are a few tweaks here and there that can be done but overall far from as bad as looking at the RK forums suggests. Its like looking at the hunter forums, they all are crying about how hunter doesn't do enough dps, hunter cannot win any 1v1s in moors, hunters are the weakest class etc yet they are far from it, people just need to stop blaming the classes and the skills on them being bad at the game, if you are bad you are bad, your class doesn't need buffs to make up for you being bad. This is the reason all the classes are op and the game has gone downhill, turbine release a patch, people cry about their class being weak because they are bad, turbine buff said class, qq on the forums about how that class is too strong when played by good players, the bad players are still bad but the good players take advantage of the buffs to destroy people in pvp and outperform people in pve and t causes qq. Everyone who is reading this shaking their head getting ready to reply, please do, but go to other forums and look at what happened to the people who replied to me thinking they were right before you do.

  11. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaelon View Post
    Not at all, RK is not a nerfed/broken class like all of you on the forums seem to think. You all just whine about everything, the only thing broken about the RK is the BB set bonuses, sure there are a few tweaks here and there that can be done but overall far from as bad as looking at the RK forums suggests. Its like looking at the hunter forums, they all are crying about how hunter doesn't do enough dps, hunter cannot win any 1v1s in moors, hunters are the weakest class etc yet they are far from it, people just need to stop blaming the classes and the skills on them being bad at the game, if you are bad you are bad, your class doesn't need buffs to make up for you being bad. This is the reason all the classes are op and the game has gone downhill, turbine release a patch, people cry about their class being weak because they are bad, turbine buff said class, qq on the forums about how that class is too strong when played by good players, the bad players are still bad but the good players take advantage of the buffs to destroy people in pvp and outperform people in pve and t causes qq. Everyone who is reading this shaking their head getting ready to reply, please do, but go to other forums and look at what happened to the people who replied to me thinking they were right before you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    Make C&R passive trait proccing at crits or devasts.
    Problem solved.
    NO! PLEASE NO. No more RNG procs!!!!!!!!!

    *Curls up into ball and cries*

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosttaker View Post
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    I do not consider this an effective nor usable slow, given that you have to slow yourself (to a stop) to place it and it halts your rotation for a full second since it doesn't fit in with any other skills. This also does not provide a much needed slow for Fire-line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    NO! PLEASE NO. No more RNG procs!!!!!!!!!

    *Curls up into ball and cries*



    I do not consider this an effective nor usable slow, given that you have to slow yourself (to a stop) to place it and it halts your rotation for a full second since it doesn't fit in with any other skills. This also does not provide a much needed slow for Fire-line.
    I dipped into lightning on my fire rk to get the lightning runestone for the moors. It makes a big difference, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dselden View Post
    I dipped into lightning on my fire rk to get the lightning runestone for the moors. It makes a big difference, imo.
    I can bet it does, but you shouldn't have to waste literally 50% of your class trait points for a less-than-average slow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    I can bet it does, but you shouldn't have to waste literally 50% of your class trait points for a less-than-average slow...
    I was actually doing this for fire pre update too but just for the stun. However, with the changes to fire line, its harder to go deeper into that line (plus I think its buried further down now). Whatever it is, even the stun was helpful when I was being focus fired.

    I would like CR to be more useful and not break on damage, its irritating when you are trying to catch something and it simply gets hit once and is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    I was actually doing this for fire pre update too but just for the stun. However, with the changes to fire line, its harder to go deeper into that line (plus I think its buried further down now). Whatever it is, even the stun was helpful when I was being focus fired.

    I would like CR to be more useful and not break on damage, its irritating when you are trying to catch something and it simply gets hit once and is gone.
    If they'd just give us back the good old CR we had before, and/or Distracting Winds, that would rock & solve our slowing issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    I was actually doing this for fire pre update too but just for the stun. However, with the changes to fire line, its harder to go deeper into that line (plus I think its buried further down now). Whatever it is, even the stun was helpful when I was being focus fired.

    I would like CR to be more useful and not break on damage, its irritating when you are trying to catch something and it simply gets hit once and is gone.
    It doesn't even take getting hit once to break the slow. A creep can pop one of those stun or root pots that cause 250 damage, and bye, bye.

    To be honest, I thought the old CR was too OP with the 30% slow on damage. I would have liked to have seen them change it to where any damage would reduce the slow to 30%, and something like a 25% change of breaking the slow completely on any damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    It doesn't even take getting hit once to break the slow. A creep can pop one of those stun or root pots that cause 250 damage, and bye, bye.

    To be honest, I thought the old CR was too OP with the 30% slow on damage. I would have liked to have seen them change it to where any damage would reduce the slow to 30%, and something like a 25% change of breaking the slow completely on any damage.
    I'd rather RK just had a slow that didn't break on damage at all, like say... Every other class in the game. Especially since RK is so susceptible to slows and CCs itself. If you get a resist on Shocking Words in lightning line that's it, your enemy can just waltz away from you lol.

    In fire, you can't chase and induct, so again they can just walk away from you, you're reliant on other players for their slows.
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    Is this guy still our dev
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    I believe there's only one developer for all the classes now, as well as without a doubt several other massive aspects of the game. We are no longer running with a skeleton-crew dev team, more likely a few ribs from one of the skeletons that was left over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    I believe there's only one developer for all the classes now, as well as without a doubt several other massive aspects of the game. We are no longer running with a skeleton-crew dev team, more likely a few ribs from one of the skeletons that was left over.
    So true and such a shame. I have since given up on seeing new and interesting changes to classes or game mechanics. It's all festival and rep grinds from here on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malganis_Lefay View Post
    I am a healing Runekeeper (i have for damage my champ)
    and i am really depressed by the state of my runekeeper in comparison to ministrels
    they beat us in any way i can imagine.
    -there stats and survivalbility are better because of there shield and the loss of our "Martial Training"
    -there singletarget and group healing output is now by far higher and faster just by spamming "Bolster Courage"
    -there rez cd was shortened while our "rezz" got double nerfed

    we lost do not fall to x
    we lost there weapon shall not harm us
    we lost That Which Does Not Kill Us
    we lost Glorious Foreshadowing (and the buff of writ of healing is no replacement for it)
    we lost Our Fates Entwined (and the stone is not a good alternative)
    we lost calming verse and with it much of our mobility

    our rune sign got nerfed
    our mending verse got double nerfed to a point it is barely usefull because i cant build it up anymore because of a 1 sec cd and the 6 sec duration instead of 10 sec (Fixed)
    our bubbles got nerved with the loss of crit immunity
    our Epic of ages got nerved because it heals the group only if it crits which remove so much control over this aoe heal
    our Do Not Fall This Day got double nerfed as mentioned above because i am unable to reduce the cd through skilling and has now this annoying 5 min duration

    our Scribe a New Ending got nerfed but in this case it is realy understandable, this was really a littlebit op (remove skill delay and make it useable on move - Pending)

    what we have gotten is
    -a writ of healing upgrade which is nice but it cant replace the foreshading
    -a Our Fates Entwined Stone which fails pretty hard of doing its job (Fixed)
    -a shorter cd of Essay of Exaltation with removed crit def and it is not enough to replace all of our damage reductions, however its the best aoe heal we have now
    so i have very twisted feelings with that
    -a shorter cd of Rousing Words which is nice but this skill is still the twisted blade of aoe heal it was before
    -Bombastic Inspiration which has a very weird concept ... at best, and an extreme terrible delay after using it
    -placeable skill which are annoying as hell while healing
    -and at last: a nice buff that shorters our inductions... which has no real flaws or is overshadowed by something... so thank you for that ^^

    but overall healing runekeeper lost far more than they get in my opinion, and just an upscaling of our numbers wouldn´t be a satisfying solution, we lost so much of our proactive and build-up gameplay that distinguishes runekeepers from ministrels. Now we are just bad and slow ministrels and i dont want to be even a normal ministrel.
    Benedictions of Peace need a really big revise :/

    RK dev, work with this already ;/ not renewing sub until RK healers get some descent love and skills back. Atleast you fixed the rock lmao

    RK was better at it's roles before HD, I'd take a 75/85 RK before this HD nonscence
    Last edited by Elensarz; Jan 01 2015 at 10:38 PM.

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    The number 1 thing I'd like to see? Please, please, please, Devs, make it so WoL is not a consumer of C+R orbs!!!!! That SO messes up what could otherwise be a decent capstone skill.

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    #1 thing I'd like to see is a developer response...
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    Our Fates Entwined stone has either been nerfed or is broken

 

 
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