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    I might be missing something but how do we use banners now as I cannot equip them any more??

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    You can still equip them, you just can't plant them. We're supposed to be using Heralds for the banner buffs now.
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    I noticed that when I equip my banner of War, I can only summon a normal archer, not my Oathbreaker.
    In order to get the Oathbreaker, you have to equip Armaments of the Oathbound, then summon, then equip the standard.
    But then the normal archer if you have to re-summon.

    So far they do not seem different, other than appearance. I prefer my Oathbreaker
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    We're looking at merging the functionality of Banners and Standards while still proving the ability to choose your Herald's appearance.

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    I used the banners as a beacon/marker to help people find their way.

    I always felt the captain was designed to be a group-leader, in theory and in practice.

    id like the ability to drop them, if for no reason than the spotlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapienChavez View Post
    id like the ability to drop them, if for no reason than the spotlight.
    This would actually be really cool, either to allow us to drop our banners just for a spotlight, or give it to us as one of those "fluff" skills. I'd use it a lot more than Command Respect, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapienChavez View Post
    I used the banners as a beacon/marker to help people find their way.
    I actually liked the ground-targeted banners in beta. Felt weird the first time, but I got used to it pretty fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    We're looking at merging the functionality of Banners and Standards while still proving the ability to choose your Herald's appearance.
    Please find a way to allow for choosing our Heralds' appearances again. I've liked pretty much everything that has changed in HD for Captains but the loss of Herald customisation hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auximenes View Post
    Please find a way to allow for choosing our Heralds' appearances again. I've liked pretty much everything that has changed in HD for Captains but the loss of Herald customisation hurts.
    It's one of my priorities. Right up there with "throw peppermint patties at MoL."

    Speaking of which...

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    Quote Originally Posted by auximenes View Post
    Please find a way to allow for choosing our Heralds' appearances again. I've liked pretty much everything that has changed in HD for Captains but the loss of Herald customisation hurts.
    Until Rock gets this straight, just equip your armament of choice, summon herald, and re-equip your banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarador View Post
    I might be missing something but how do we use banners now as I cannot equip them any more??


    Isn't it a skill now that replace them ? which does Aoe ?



    And the already answered part which is you can still equip them as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    We're looking at merging the functionality of Banners and Standards while still proving the ability to choose your Herald's appearance.
    Please do, I don't want some shabby peasant following me around with a bow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningStarSE View Post
    Isn't it a skill now that replace them ? which does Aoe ?



    And the already answered part which is you can still equip them as usual.
    The skills are halfway in the trait lines are better, all do aoe light damage on planting, 15% + all dmg, 15% healing in and out, can't remember the other one. Herald buffs are completely different now, possibly the better one is blue, which makes all skills cost 10% less.

    The new banner skills have a 30s duration and 1min cd, so can be active 50% of the time in any given battle, add that to dps traited warcry, that's a big damage buff for a group.

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    Personally I'd still prefer an option to use a banner rather than have to use that godforsaken pet UI and be followed everywhere by an underdressed, underequipped, peasant.

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    The advantage of a new Standard skill is that it works for both fellowships in the raid (talking about a 12man group, believe it is the same for 24man in ettens or elsewhere). If you want to keep the new - much stronger! - buff from a planted standard for all the time in the raid, the two captains have to coordinate their effort and use it 30s after each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auximenes View Post
    Please find a way to allow for choosing our Heralds' appearances again. I've liked pretty much everything that has changed in HD for Captains but the loss of Herald customisation hurts.
    As a heads-up, we'll be introducing new versions of the 'Armaments' which train players in how to summon a specific Herald appearance, like how Lore-master's Talismans currently function. You'll be able to exchange your existing Armament class items at Captain trainers for the new versions. This'll be coming in sometime after 12.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    As a heads-up, we'll be introducing new versions of the 'Armaments' which train players in how to summon a specific Herald appearance, like how Lore-master's Talismans currently function. You'll be able to exchange your existing Armament class items at Captain trainers for the new versions. This'll be coming in sometime after 12.1.
    Excellent, good to hear. Will the armour boost from Armaments be incorporated into Standards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    As a heads-up, we'll be introducing new versions of the 'Armaments' which train players in how to summon a specific Herald appearance, like how Lore-master's Talismans currently function. You'll be able to exchange your existing Armament class items at Captain trainers for the new versions. This'll be coming in sometime after 12.1.
    Please include Rohirric / Elf / Dunlending / Etc Appearances

    In fact, if you are doing talisman type, please add captain appearances to factions throughout middle earth requiring rep to get (just like thorins rep one), it would be a wonderful way to help us customize our Captains. And yes, I've filed this under suggestions in the past: Here https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6729400
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    I want a hobbit as banner bearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilda View Post
    I want a hobbit as banner bearer.
    Would they carry banners, or pies? I'm a bit confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    Would they carry banners, or pies? I'm a bit confused.
    As long as its a pie which can give us increased damage, increased mits or increased power regen, then it can be either

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    Would they carry banners, or pies? I'm a bit confused.
    Never understimate the power of pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockX View Post
    Would they carry banners, or pies? I'm a bit confused.
    Pies of cause. And the whole time over the hobbit is eating from it, and talking about how tasty it is.
    If the Pie is empty he disappears xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bel-Astarte View Post
    Never understimate the power of pie.

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    Oh, for sure. I personally would find the reward of pie far more encouraging versus some dude waving around a piece of cloth on a stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilda View Post
    I want a hobbit as banner bearer.
    Ranadin, captain of Men, weary of his long travels was resting against his battle goat Clover, surveying the ruins of Evendim. The tattered cloth of his war standard was neatly tucked in his saddlebags, looking frayed yet still radiating a subtle power. Ranadin longed to plant his standard once again on the fields of war, but dutifully he realized those days were behind him. He was startled out of his daze, by the shouting of his herald, Pemberton of Crickhollow. “For the Shire!” The battle-hobbit shouted wielding his savory meat-pies. If Ranadin was startled from his thoughts, the boar, a victim of this hobbit’s pie assault was even more so. Stunned by an onslaught of sweetened fruits and golden crusts the creature struggled to remain upright. Pemberton, emboldened by the boar’s confusion and perhaps aroused by sweet smell of apple pies mixing with pumpkin, approached the beast in a frenzy. Ranadin leapt up to save the foolish herald and attempting to threaten the beast to redirect his ire, but found he had forgotten how. In that moment, the boar regained its senses and turned on the hobbit seemingly impervious to incoming volley of chocolate and meringue. The hobbit was trampled and his pies scattered by the fury of the boar’s rush. Distraught by the loss of his herald, Ranadin slew the great boar of Evendim and vowed to never again subject the gentle folk of the Shire to the dangers of the Wilds.
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