I think it's good that Turbine is putting more ways to spend gold into game. It will help battle inflation.
That said, I sympathize with the people who don't want to spend any time on Auction House. So they end up selling their drops to vendors for a few coppers, when they cost golds in AH. And then they can't afford things.
Last edited by Geldeger; Nov 12 2013 at 06:37 PM.
Maybe I missed it somewhere but will we still be able to grant house chest access to characters on other accounts (2nd accounts/friends/etc).
That's the only thing I can think of that would make housing storage more valuable than just buying more shared storage for less.
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If "affordable" means that anyone can spend that much without any effort and regardless of their shopping sprees... well, that sounds synonymous to "free."
And maybe bank should be free, it's a fair discussion. But I don't see anything wrong with it requiring a little bit of time and effort. I like to have something to look forward to. Those old prices are tuned to old gold value; I'm told there was a time when 10g was rich, and when most people couldn't afford to buy the mount in Bree so they would spend hours killing those signature trolls in the Lone Lands because they dropped 10 silvers each. Inflation has been massive in the game, and they are adjusting, which I think is good.
My main alt reached 3000 gold by level 45 or so (buying and selling Resources mainly). More gold sinks are definitely needed in the game.
While the idea of amassing 3000g at 45 is amusing, most are not going to play the Auction House game and choose instead to play LotRO the mmorpg. I have yet to have an alt that was a crafter actually finish out a crafting tier from mats farmed while questing before out levelling the area and have always needed to return and farm mats for finishing out the tier and more for crafting later. The idea of having extra ore, wood or scholar mats to sell on the AH is a rather foreign one to me as on the rare occasion I have anything I don't need someone in my kin does. The only time I had extra mats to sell on the AH was skarn during RoI and Riddermark ore during RoR from the never ending search for Rhi Sigils and Tarnished Crests for guild crafting and those tended to have very low prices in the AH as it was flooded by people doing the same as I.
As for LotRO needing a money sink for end game players, the game already has a massive gold sink that is the LI relic system. A system that has been the bane of low gold players in RoR that wanted decent 85 LIs and is expected to balloon again with HD. Having personally spent hundreds of gold outfitting level cap LIs on multiple characters I wish the inflation would be reigned in. The biggest cause of the inflation is of course the end game grind for gear which will start anew shortly much to my pleasure and dismay.
On the topic of housing chests I really like the idea of more storage, but dislike the one chest to rule them all. The only reason people usually see all the cool decor in our kin house is they go from chest to chest looking for thing to take and space to drop off. With only one chest most of the kin house can be conveniently avoided and no longer serves a purpose other than visible decoration storage. The new costs are rather steep compared with current costs and I am thankful I am an established player and don't have to spend stupid amounts of gold for such little space that is used to store things I would likely otherwise just make a new alt to store. I hope that the original poster in this thread is way off in the guesstimate of kin house storage costs for 75 and 90 slots as those are definitely stupid amounts.
just my two coppers, take it for what its worth.
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Petty insults aside, the amount of gold in circulation is too high for the prices to ever come down without more ways for level cap players to spend. LI's are one sink, but not nearly enough unless the character in question is bringing in zero income for some reason (destroying vendor trash? Not killing mobs?) Increasing housing costs is a step in the right direction, though as a one time only expenditure, it won't have much effect in the long run.
Last edited by MonkeyFunker; Nov 14 2013 at 08:43 AM.
The new housing costs will drain a little money from the economy for a few days, but without recurring costs that scale with available income it won't have a lasting effect on the overall economy.
Btw, I too think the cost increase for chest upgrades is silly even though I'd barely notice it even if I had to rebuy everything. And I've never specifically farmed for gold, it's the bounties, task items, crafting materials and other landscape drops that I got from playing the content. Ok, and selling some redundant stuff on the AH, while not really having anything to spend gold for. Not saying that this is the norm, but it applies to a significant number of players.
The only realistic fix to the economy is a (surprise) currency conversion and a coupling of income rates to gold sinks in some way. Neither would be easy or well received by the community.
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Someone pointed out that it makes it impossible for Free players to acquire more than 15 slots of housing storage without upgrading to Premium or removing the Gold cap on their own, unlike now where they could get up to 60 slots within their cap.
It's effectively taking something else away from free players. ; Premium players as well (because the new prices are over the 5g limit!)
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I just hope that I am not forced to re-buy my storage to have access to it, or lose any of my existing space. Also, if it's going down to one chest per house, will we have the spaces the other chests were in to put some decorations in?
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I agree, prices are crazy (I am premium but with currency cap removed and 15 slots in AH which I find sufficient)...
The house storage to a new F2P is as important as the vault (the advantage is you can hop directly to it from anywhere )
With the changes as described it will be crippling for them...
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I've been gone a long time; but housing storage really became tertiary once shared storage came out...accessible from any vault in M.E. vs having to port home to use housing. This is from an 'altoholic's perspective'.
Inflation was a given I suppose.
I was actually hoping for new areas to be opened... something for vets vs newbie areas only; but hey! I just started trying to catch up on being gone for... 8 months or was it a year? It's been darn long time.
After HD went live, I went to my deluxe house and the UI told me it was 200 Mithril Coins to upgrade to the next storage level, not 100. What prices are you seeing?
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For those who are fainting at the new housing storage costs, here is a thread that might interest you:
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First time I posted 100 medium hides they were gone before I turned and left the AH - made me wonder if there was a BOT in action or something.
Housing Chest Storage Space being retained over house moving/eviction is currently in question again. Someone on Live is reporting they moved houses and did not keep their housing storage space. I have added a note in the OP about this.
Is this a bug? Should I file a ticket?
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