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  1. #1
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    HD - Creep class changes

    Hey, not sure on the current CDs, so will post a quick summary with most CDs and changes that I've seen so far for creeps.

    General:

    New damage type to replace common: Orc craft, and wargs get Fell-wrought

    All of creeps base critical defence has been removed

    Extra 6 corruption slots and bonuses for stacking corruptions

    Bonuses: Accidentally added 2 crit bonuses, rather than tact mits, so another one here



    Logout is reduced from 25s to 10s, also, this means huggers can easily get out of trouble

    Reaver:

    Charge: Reduced from 30s CD to 20s, but has gotten back its old god awful animation that can be interrupted.

    Wrath: From 2m CD to 35s, sudden strikes still reduces CD.

    Glory in victory: 20s CD from 45s

    Gut punch: 8s CD from 10s

    Disarm: 25s CD from 1m

    Dust: 15s CD from 1m

    Upper hand: 15s CD from 45s

    Against the Odds: 3m CD from 10m

    Ravage: 4s CD from I forget

    Dev strike: 30s CD from 1m, 20s with trait.

    Mutilation: 10s CD from 20s

    Blade toss: 20s CD from 1m

    Severing strike: 20s CD from 1m

    Spider:

    Not familiar with this class, so I'll post CDs of what I do know currently and post other CDs I'm unsure on

    Toxic Carapace: 1m from 1m 30s

    Piercing attack: 2s from 3s?

    Poison spray: 8s from ?

    Envenom: 8s from ?

    Mephitic: 12s from ?

    Latent poison: 20s from 1m

    Smothering web: 1m from 5m

    Web the earth: 25s from 1m

    Grasping web: 30s from ?

    Virulent poison: 12s from ?

    Drink deep: 20s from ?

    Snaring web: 15s from ?

    Entangling web: 8s from ?

    Catch prey: 15s from ?

    Blackarrow:

    Imp Vital target: 40s from 2m

    Moving target: 40s (yes 40s) from 5m

    Headshot: 15s from ?

    Explosive arrow: 20s from ?

    Steadfast barrage: 30s from ?

    Revenge: still 20s

    Fire trap: 25s from ?

    Flaming arrow: 15s from 20s

    Snare: 30s from ?

    Gash: 10s from ?

    Tangleshot: 15s from ?

    Imp. Punctured target: 5s from ?

    Hindering shot: 5s from 8s

    War-leader:

    Banner of horror/terror: 2m 20s from ?

    Snap out of it!: 20s from ?

    Quitters never win: 3m from ?, 1m untraited

    Crack the whip: 4s from ?

    On your feet!: 1m from 5m?

    Intimidating shout: 20s

    Shield bash: 20s from ?

    Black speech: 20s from ?

    Menacing roar still 45s

    Quit whining: 10s from ?

    Cleave: 4s from ?

    Call to Shadow: 1m from ?

    Field promotion setback to its old 2m

    Stalker:

    HIPS and Sprint: 3m from 5m, 1m 30s traited

    Rallying howl: 15s from 30s

    Swipe: 10s from 20s

    Rapid bite: 10s from 45s

    Scratch and snip: 15s from 30s

    Fleas: 25s from 45s

    Snap: 25s from 1m

    Dire Howl: 1m from 5m

    Eye rake: 8s from 15s (3s with trait)

    Tendon Shred: 3m from 5m

    Throat rip: 20s from 1m

    Maul: Unchanged

    Savage fangs: Unchanged

    Pack flayers: 15s from 30

    Howl of Unnerving: 20s from 1m

    Defiler:

    Plague Gourd: 8s from ?

    staff bash: 3s from ?

    Fell restoration: 30s from ?

    Effloresence: 20s from ?

    Curse of the Lethargic Heart: 15s from ?

    Fungal spores: 3s from ?

    Curse of deadly sorrows: 15s from ?

    Tenderize: 5s from ?

    Curse of Rotten flesh: 15s from ?

    Explosive Gourd: 15s from ?

    Gooey Gourd: 15s from ?

    Blight: 30s from ?

    Constant pain: 10s from ?

    Fertile slime: 6s from ?

    Fungal bloom: 4s from ?

    Coward's soul: 15s from ?

    Fire gourd: 6s from ?

    Blessing of Darkness: 1m 20s from ?


    (If I missed anything or anything is wrong or anything else gets updated, do shout to me)
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    There are effectively no CD changes for WL. All the CDs you listed are the same as they currently are now except for res, QNW and the banners which are currently 2m 30s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberPancake View Post
    Hey, not sure on the current CDs, so will post a quick summary with most CDs and changes that I've seen so far for creeps.

    General:

    New damage type to replace common: Orc craft, and wargs get Fell-wrought

    All of creeps base critical defence has been removed

    Extra 6 corruption slots and bonuses for stacking corruptions

    Bonuses: Accidentally added 2 crit bonuses, rather than tact mits, so another one here



    Logout is reduced from 25s to 10s, also, this means huggers can easily get out of trouble

    Reaver:

    Charge: Reduced from 30s CD to 20s, but has gotten back its old god awful animation that can be interrupted.

    Wrath: From 2m CD to 35s, sudden strikes still reduces CD.

    Glory in victory: 20s CD from 45s

    Gut punch: 8s CD from 10s

    Disarm: 25s CD from 1m

    Dust: 15s CD from 1m

    Upper hand: 15s CD from 45s

    Against the Odds: 3m CD from 10m

    Ravage: 4s CD from I forget

    Dev strike: 30s CD from 1m, 20s with trait.

    Mutilation: 10s CD from 20s

    Blade toss: 20s CD from 1m

    Severing strike: 20s CD from 1m

    Spider:

    Not familiar with this class, so I'll post CDs of what I do know currently and post other CDs I'm unsure on

    Toxic Carapace: 1m from 1m 30s

    Piercing attack: 2s from 3s?

    Poison spray: 8s from ?

    Envenom: 8s from ?

    Mephitic: 12s from ?

    Latent poison: 20s from 1m

    Smothering web: 1m from 5m

    Web the earth: 25s from 1m

    Grasping web: 30s from ?

    Virulent poison: 12s from ?

    Drink deep: 20s from ?

    Snaring web: 15s from ?

    Entangling web: 8s from ?

    Catch prey: 15s from ?

    Blackarrow:

    Imp Vital target: 40s from 2m

    Moving target: 40s (yes 40s) from 5m

    Headshot: 15s from ?

    Explosive arrow: 20s from ?

    Steadfast barrage: 30s from ?

    Revenge: still 20s

    Fire trap: 25s from ?

    Flaming arrow: 15s from 20s

    Snare: 30s from ?

    Gash: 10s from ?

    Tangleshot: 15s from ?

    Imp. Punctured target: 5s from ?

    Hindering shot: 5s from 8s

    War-leader:

    Banner of horror/terror: 2m 20s from ?

    Snap out of it!: 20s from ?

    Quitters never win: 3m from ?, 1m untraited

    Crack the whip: 4s from ?

    On your feet!: 1m from 5m?

    Intimidating shout: 20s

    Shield bash: 20s from ?

    Black speech: 20s from ?

    Menacing roar still 45s

    Quit whining: 10s from ?

    Cleave: 4s from ?

    Call to Shadow: 1m from ?

    Field promotion setback to its old 2m

    Stalker:

    HIPS and Sprint: 3m from 5m, 1m 30s traited

    Rallying howl: 15s from 30s

    Swipe: 10s from 20s

    Rapid bite: 10s from 45s

    Scratch and snip: 15s from 30s

    Fleas: 25s from 45s

    Snap: 25s from 1m

    Dire Howl: 1m from 5m

    Eye rake: 8s from 15s (3s with trait)

    Tendon Shred: 3m from 5m

    Throat rip: 20s from 1m

    Maul: Unchanged

    Savage fangs: Unchanged

    Pack flayers: 15s from 30

    Howl of Unnerving: 20s from 1m

    Defiler:

    Plague Gourd: 8s from ?

    staff bash: 3s from ?

    Fell restoration: 30s from ?

    Effloresence: 20s from ?

    Curse of the Lethargic Heart: 15s from ?

    Fungal spores: 3s from ?

    Curse of deadly sorrows: 15s from ?

    Tenderize: 5s from ?

    Curse of Rotten flesh: 15s from ?

    Explosive Gourd: 15s from ?

    Gooey Gourd: 15s from ?

    Blight: 30s from ?

    Constant pain: 10s from ?

    Fertile slime: 6s from ?

    Fungal bloom: 4s from ?

    Coward's soul: 15s from ?

    Fire gourd: 6s from ?

    Blessing of Darkness: 1m 20s from ?


    (If I missed anything or anything is wrong or anything else gets updated, do shout to me)
    Whoever came with changes like that is dumb as hell. Once again ######-friendly stuff, they can't kill ####? Reduce cooldowns on their survivals! I bet this guy is employee of the month. Why do they even bother, make auto attacks lethal, whoever auto-attacks first wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberPancake View Post
    Logout is reduced from 25s to 10s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

    Edit: Double-You Tea Eff. Just looked at CDs.
    Shakuru scored a devastating hit on Retarius for 8,094 Scottish damage to morale.

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    To warg players: Was warg seriously op or something? Seems like warg was hit with a long range of nerfs and only that. Any good reason for that, wargs?


    Not playing myself and haven't played for a while. Just looking at changes so that I can keep SOME track of development. Will be back when Minas Tirith comes, I have to see the White City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    To warg players: Was warg seriously op or something? Seems like warg was hit with a long range of nerfs and only that. Any good reason for that, wargs?


    Not playing myself and haven't played for a while. Just looking at changes so that I can keep SOME track of development. Will be back when Minas Tirith comes, I have to see the White City.
    What nerfs are you talking about? We got a lot of cd reductions from which wasnt many necessary, but some are nice tho. DPS also increased nicely imo. The corruption set bonuses are also nice, i didnt had the chance to test against freeps yet, it will probably still take few weeks until they all level and gear up, not to mention they dont have upgraded audacity armour, but i tried to solo some pve content. It wasnt challanging at all to solo a cg or the drake in dof. We cant realy say if we are nerfed or buffed compared to RoR warg until we can test against geared up freeps and see how hard they are hitting and how many damage they take...
    [center][color=#1F45FC]Rathregraw R10 Hunter ~ Chayse R6 Cappy ~ Lummen-1 R9 RK ~ Chesterr R6 WRD ~ Bammeg R7 Burg [/color]
    [color=#FF0000]Kutyaa R12 Warg ~ Bammeg-1 R11 BA ~ Krashbar R8 Reaver ~ Djangoo R7 Deffy [/color][/center]

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    To warg players: Was warg seriously op or something? Seems like warg was hit with a long range of nerfs and only that. Any good reason for that, wargs?


    Not playing myself and haven't played for a while. Just looking at changes so that I can keep SOME track of development. Will be back when Minas Tirith comes, I have to see the White City.
    Do you even log?
    Shakuru scored a devastating hit on Retarius for 8,094 Scottish damage to morale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathregraw View Post
    What nerfs are you talking about? We got a lot of cd reductions from which wasnt many necessary, but some are nice tho. DPS also increased nicely imo. The corruption set bonuses are also nice, i didnt had the chance to test against freeps yet, it will probably still take few weeks until they all level and gear up, not to mention they dont have upgraded audacity armour, but i tried to solo some pve content. It wasnt challanging at all to solo a cg or the drake in dof. We cant realy say if we are nerfed or buffed compared to RoR warg until we can test against geared up freeps and see how hard they are hitting and how many damage they take...

    Oh, damn. I misread. You are of course completely correct, I read it as cds being increased, not reduced. In that case, wargs seem somewhat buffed, if one only looks at cds. Question is if power can keep up with it.

    Who is your warg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    Who is your warg?
    You might wanna look at his signature.
    [center][URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/Glohir/media/99b92620-47a6-43d6-8b52-1ff43a173a35_zpsz90debot.png.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r524/Glohir/99b92620-47a6-43d6-8b52-1ff43a173a35_zpsz90debot.png[/IMG][/URL][/center]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glohir View Post
    You might wanna look at his signature.
    Hehe, good point. I overlooked the warg logo and only read the text below. Good ol' Kutyaa, ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathregraw View Post
    What nerfs are you talking about? We got a lot of cd reductions from which wasnt many necessary, but some are nice tho. DPS also increased nicely imo. The corruption set bonuses are also nice, i didnt had the chance to test against freeps yet, it will probably still take few weeks until they all level and gear up, not to mention they dont have upgraded audacity armour, but i tried to solo some pve content. It wasnt challanging at all to solo a cg or the drake in dof. We cant realy say if we are nerfed or buffed compared to RoR warg until we can test against geared up freeps and see how hard they are hitting and how many damage they take...
    Wargs got boosted the most, if things stay the way they are atm. Their stealth has no counter unless freeps are willing to use P2W tracks. Hunters can't track stealthed beasts anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelloweyedemon View Post
    Wargs got boosted the most, if things stay the way they are atm. Their stealth has no counter unless freeps are willing to use P2W tracks. Hunters can't track stealthed beasts anymore...
    I agree with you on that, however i think that stealth is not the biggest issue atm. I think in a future update hunters will get back the stealth tracking, if not than none of the sides should have such ability to track stealthed foes. More game breaking things are imo the new creep damage types whichones can not be mitigated yet or the bugged audacity. If those wont be fixed soon i dont think we will see much action in the moors and Lotro will lose even more players than it already did.
    [center][color=#1F45FC]Rathregraw R10 Hunter ~ Chayse R6 Cappy ~ Lummen-1 R9 RK ~ Chesterr R6 WRD ~ Bammeg R7 Burg [/color]
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    rend flesh has 2secs cd now instead of no-cd before. ih the removed the skilllag of frenzy, anyone checked if rallying holw stacks now? as it didnt in Ror
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberPancake View Post
    Hey, not sure on the current CDs, so will post a quick summary with most CDs and changes that I've seen so far for creeps.
    Reaver:
    Wrath: From 2m CD to 35s, sudden strikes still reduces CD.
    Just a little detail I'm surprised you forgot to mention, sudden strikes cd has been increased by 2 seconds so you can't spam the skill & wrath duration has been reduced to 15 seconds..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark-EU View Post
    Just a little detail I'm surprised you forgot to mention, sudden strikes cd has been increased by 2 seconds so you can't spam the skill & wrath duration has been reduced to 15 seconds..
    Just a little detail I'm surprised you didn't notice, this thread was made weeks ago and so the last minute changes were not included..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberPancake View Post
    Just a little detail I'm surprised you didn't notice, this thread was made weeks ago and so the last minute changes were not included..
    That's nothing to be surprised about, that's a period I've not been active in so I have no clue about what changes were when & in my mind your list was complete so yeah my mistake.
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