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    Wormtongue's control...

    Hello all, I'm currently creating a RP character and I had a quick question. How long was Wormtongue with Theoden, how long was Theoden in his corrupted state?

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    Grima becomes Theoden's chief council in 3014, in the same year Theoden's health begins to fail (most likely due to Grima). We do not know how close to Theoden Grima was before that, but he is apparently a local in Edoras so I'd assume they'd been well acquainted for some time.

    P.S. Gandalf arrives at Edoras and cures Theoden on March 2, 3019
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    So in 5 years, Grima the Wormtongue almost killed Theoden with his poison & sickened Eowyn as well.
    Is this Alternate Character Disorder? :


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    Quote Originally Posted by YamydeAragon View Post
    So in 5 years, Grima the Wormtongue almost killed Theoden with his poison & sickened Eowyn as well.
    I'm drawing a blank on him sickening Eowyn. How did he do it?
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphonic View Post
    I'm drawing a blank on him sickening Eowyn. How did he do it?
    This is what Gandalf explain to about Eowyns afliction, after she got hurt by the Nazgul. He said that wasn't the Nazgul shadow what made her sucumb but she was carrying that poison for a while. Every time Wormtongue questioned the worth of the house of Theoden, when talking to the king, he insulted the king & their descendants as well. & as loyal she was to the king, she was always beside overhearing all that. Gandalf also speculate what other nastyness Wormtongue could have said to her when Eomer go on his bussiness & she was alone.
    Gandalf cured Theoden, but not Eowyn. Maybe because he couldn't, maybe there was a higher purpose. The poison didn't sorted the same kind of effect on her as on the king. If she wasn't poisoned she may not attempt to go to war to prove her worth & will not kill the Nazgul with the hobbit help. & If she didn't sucumb, Aragorn may not be able to prove that he was the returning king, using his hands of healer on her.
    Last edited by YamydeAragon; Oct 23 2013 at 11:01 PM.
    Is this Alternate Character Disorder? :


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    Quote Originally Posted by YamydeAragon View Post
    This is what Gandalf explain to about Eowyns afliction, after she got hurt by the Nazgul. He said that wasn't the Nazgul shadow what made her sucumb but she was carrying that poison for a while. Every time Wormtongue questioned the worth of the house of Theoden, when talking to the king, he insulted the king & their descendants as well. & as loyal she was to the king, she was always beside overhearing all that. Gandalf also speculate what other nastyness Wormtongue could have said to her when Eomer go on his bussiness & she was alone.
    Gandalf cured Theoden, but not Eowyn. Maybe because he couldn't, maybe there was a higher purpose. The poison didn't sorted the same kind of effect on her as on the king. If she wasn't poisoned she may not attempt to go to war to prove her worth & will not kill the Nazgul with the hobbit help. & If she didn't sucumb, Aragorn may not be able to prove that he was the returning king, using his hands of healer on her.
    I had never picked up on this idea that Eowyn was afflicted by Wormtongue as well. Thanks for bringing to our attention Yamy!
    "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend," Faramir in TTT by JRRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YamydeAragon View Post
    So in 5 years, Grima the Wormtongue almost killed Theoden with his poison & sickened Eowyn as well.
    This, and the clarification that followed, strongly implied that Eowyn's sickness had been inflicted upon her by Wormtongue; I clarified that such an interpretation is not correct, that Wormtongue merely abused her already-existing heartsickness.

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