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    Minas Tirith - The Tomb of Kings

    Is there such a place in game? I haven't really explored every nook and cranny but haven't found either. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palenen View Post
    Is there such a place in game? I haven't really explored every nook and cranny but haven't found either. Thanks!
    The place where the Kings (and Stewards) are entombed is
    called Rath Dinen, the Silent Street, but I don't know whether
    it's in-game, or not in-game yet, or will ever be accessible to
    us.

    Here's the relevant text (this is when Denethor has succumbed
    to despair and intends to burn himself and Faramir together):

    "Out from the White Tower they walked, as if to a funeral, out
    into the darkness, where the overhanging cloud was lit beneath
    with flickers of dull red. Softly they paced the great courtyard,
    and at a word from Denethor halted beside the Withered Tree.

    "All was silent, save for the rumour of war in the City down below,.
    and they heard the water dripping sadly from the dead branches
    into the dark pool. Then they went on through the Citadel gate,
    where the sentinel stared at them in wonder and dismay as they
    passed by. Turning westward they came at length to a door in
    the rearward wall of the sixth circle. Fen Hollen it was called,
    for it was kept ever shut save at times of funeral, and only the
    Lord of the City might use that way, or those who bore the token
    of the tombs and tended the houses of the dead. Beyond it went
    a winding road that descended in many curves down to the narrow
    land under the shadow of Mindolluin's precipice where stood the
    mansions of the dead Kings and of their Stewards.

    "A porter sat in a little house by beside the way, and with fear in
    his eyes he came forth bearing a lantern in his hand. At the Lord's
    command he unlocked the door, and silently it swung back; and
    they passed through, taking the lantern from his hand. It was dark
    on the climbing road between ancient walls and many-pillared balusters
    looming in the swaying lantern-beam. Their slow feet echoed as they
    walked down, down, until at last they came to the Silent Street,
    Rath Dinen, between pale domes and empty halls and images of the
    long dead; and they entered into the House of the Stewards and set
    down their burden.

    "There Pippin, staring uneasily about him, saw that he was in a wide
    vaulted chamber, draped as it were with the great shadows that the
    little lantern threw upon its shrouded walls. And dimly to be seen
    were many rows of tables, carved of marble; and upon each table
    lay a sleeping form, hands folded, head pillowed upon stone."

    Now, that is a very accurate piece of description, and I suspect (I
    only got to Minas Tirith yesterday evening) that if one searched
    diligently around the Court of the White tree one would find that
    path to the locked door Fen Hollen. But whether it will ever open,
    or whether Turbine has built the path onto which it opens, remains
    to be seen, and depends on whether or not they intend to show
    us this scene in the course of the game.
    Eruanne - Shards of Narsil-1 - Elendilmir -> Arkenstone

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    Thanks for replying. I feel it would have been one of the Points of Interest such as the Houses of Healing as example. Another location that comes to mind is the Beacon of Minas Tirith. Curious to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palenen View Post
    Thanks for replying. I feel it would have been one of the Points of Interest such as the Houses of Healing as example.
    Oh, yes. But considering that it was off-limits to practically
    everybody, we will get to see it only if we follow Denethor's
    sad progress into the House of the Stewards.

    A lot more action takes place in the Houses of Healing, so we
    may get a chance to see them.
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    I had searched for Rath Dinen and the Beacon, expecting one to be involved as perhaps a point of interest, or even session play, and the other as a point of interest, given that all the beacons so far in Gondor have been one I rather looked at seeing a meta deed for visiting every single one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palenen View Post
    Is there such a place in game? I haven't really explored every nook and cranny but haven't found either. Thanks!
    In another thread a relevant comment from MoL:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tirian-Hammerfist View Post
    I was a tad disappointed at not seeing the Silent Street, or any of the tombs of Minas Tirith...
    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfLions View Post
    Well, we didn't just forget about them, if that helps. We've always found it valuable to keep some areas in reserve so we have room to grow.

    MoL
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...02#post7475402

    Sergio :-)
    Moved from Riddermark to Landroval on 2/10/1015!

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    I seem to remember reading somewhere that MOL said they have not added all in MT to allow future content?
    ----A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything----

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    Currently there is a rule that the door at Fen Hollen is locked and only certain people can get inside. That may change. Who knows how long the current steward will rule, or if he will change his policy. Also there is a possibility that someone could force their way in, (say it ain’t so Joe) although that seems extremely unlikely. What reason could there be for a forced entry? Tomb Raider? Should I name a character Laracroft?
    “I come and go like a comet; we are wanderers, are you anymore"

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    I searched, and found a door at the west-most point of the sixth circle.

    The door has the Star of the Dunedain on it and an emblem of the White Tree above it.

    There is a lone seated guard with his sword laying across his knees.

    The door does not 'react' to the cursor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddave View Post
    I searched, and found a door at the west-most point of the sixth circle.

    The door has the Star of the Dunedain on it and an emblem of the White Tree above it.

    There is a lone seated guard with his sword laying across his knees.

    The door does not 'react' to the cursor.
    Sounds likely.

    Evelwyn, in one sense we know exactly how long Denethor will
    rule Gondor. He will burn himself on a pyre on the morning of
    March 15, while (practically) everybody else is fighting on the
    Pelennor.

    That's in the story's timeline. How long Denethor will hold out
    in our timeline is something Turbine might know, but
    they ain't telling.
    Eruanne - Shards of Narsil-1 - Elendilmir -> Arkenstone

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    Quote Originally Posted by djheydt View Post
    Sounds likely.

    Evelwyn, in one sense we know exactly how long Denethor will
    rule Gondor. He will burn himself on a pyre on the morning of
    March 15, while (practically) everybody else is fighting on the
    Pelennor.

    That's in the story's timeline. How long Denethor will hold out
    in our timeline is something Turbine might know, but
    they ain't telling.
    Righto, the Steward of Gondor is going to burn himself on a pyre? You think I just fell off the turnip wagon? And what will cause him to do that? Perhaps he misplaced his crown and is distraught?
    “I come and go like a comet; we are wanderers, are you anymore"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelwyn View Post
    Righto, the Steward of Gondor is going to burn himself on a pyre? You think I just fell off the turnip wagon? And what will cause him to do that? Perhaps he misplaced his crown and is distraught?
    He doesn't have a crown; it's sitting in a vault somewhere waiting
    for the King to return. All the Steward has is a plain white staff.

    One of Tolkien's letters contains a picture of the crown of Arnor: it
    looks like the white crown of Lower Egypt,

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mz08TJtaZSM%3A

    but with wings on the side (like the helms of the Guards of the
    Tower). (And no serpent on the front.)

    The crown of Arnor, on the other hand, is a simple circlet with the
    Elendilmir centered on the brow. It can be fitted over the crown of
    Gondor, but even before his coronation Aragorn wore it into battle.

    And what causes Denethor to burn himself is his surrender to the
    sin of despair.
    Eruanne - Shards of Narsil-1 - Elendilmir -> Arkenstone

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    Quote Originally Posted by djheydt View Post
    He doesn't have a crown; it's sitting in a vault somewhere waiting
    for the King to return. All the Steward has is a plain white staff.

    One of Tolkien's letters contains a picture of the crown of Arnor: it
    looks like the white crown of Lower Egypt,

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mz08TJtaZSM%3A

    but with wings on the side (like the helms of the Guards of the
    Tower). (And no serpent on the front.)

    The crown of Arnor, on the other hand, is a simple circlet with the
    Elendilmir centered on the brow. It can be fitted over the crown of
    Gondor, but even before his coronation Aragorn wore it into battle.

    And what causes Denethor to burn himself is his surrender to the
    sin of despair.
    He doesn't have a crown? Did Bigfoot take it?
    “I come and go like a comet; we are wanderers, are you anymore"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelwyn View Post
    Righto, the Steward of Gondor is going to burn himself on a pyre? You think I just fell off the turnip wagon? And what will cause him to do that? Perhaps he misplaced his crown and is distraught?
    Because the book which this game is based on says he burns himself to death (and tries to do the same to his son Faramir).
    As has already been pointed out, the Stewards of Gondor do not wear a crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelwyn View Post
    He doesn't have a crown? Did Bigfoot take it?
    Now you're just being silly.

    Denethor took pride in his own line, and would not have
    stooped to becoming an illegitimate king rather than a
    legitimate steward. Boromir, you'll recall, once asked him,
    "How long does it take to make a Steward a King, if the
    King return not?" And Denethor answered, "Few years,
    maybe, in places of less honour. In Gondor, not a
    thousand generations would suffice."

    (Quoting from memory, the wording may not be exact.)
    Eruanne - Shards of Narsil-1 - Elendilmir -> Arkenstone

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethB View Post
    Because the book which this game is based on says he burns himself to death (and tries to do the same to his son Faramir).
    As has already been pointed out, the Stewards of Gondor do not wear a crown.
    Was the crown a national treasure or did Bigfoot take it?

    Quote Originally Posted by djheydt View Post
    Now you're just being silly.

    Denethor took pride in his own line, and would not have
    stooped to becoming an illegitimate king rather than a
    legitimate steward. Boromir, you'll recall, once asked him,
    "How long does it take to make a Steward a King, if the
    King return not?" And Denethor answered, "Few years,
    maybe, in places of less honour. In Gondor, not a
    thousand generations would suffice."

    (Quoting from memory, the wording may not be exact.)
    (lol) Now?
    “I come and go like a comet; we are wanderers, are you anymore"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelwyn View Post
    Was the crown a national treasure or did Bigfoot take it?



    (lol) Now?
    The obvious poorly-disguised wind-up above is an obvious poorly disguised wind-up.
    <A sig goes here>

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    Quote Originally Posted by BangoTwinkletoes View Post
    The obvious poorly-disguised wind-up above is an obvious poorly disguised wind-up.
    Have you gone Jethro Tull on us?

    It's not even Sunday yet. (I have a feeling)
    “I come and go like a comet; we are wanderers, are you anymore"

 

 

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