The OP hasn't seen the product, no one has. The people in Beta have, but they are contractually obligated not to tell you if they love it or hate it. So people are buying this software site-unseen. What kind of sense does that make?
A few posts a go, a forum member stated that they had purchased previous expacs and liked them all, and gleaned from that they are confident that they would like this one too. But each expansion has offered less and less. WB/Turbine tried to sell the last one for nearly $70 (more than a polished new game). In this release, it is said that the Epic story will also be pay to play when it has always been in their free to play product. They are paring the game back over and over (look at PvMP and Raiding).
They are offering less for more.
It doesn't make any sense to keep paying more ( or the even the same ) for less quality. People have the right to make bad decisions all the time, and they truly exercise that right. But again this thread isn't about what the OP has the right to do.
Does it really matter WHY the switch happen? Does it really matter WHAT exactly was the reason for switch? On a big scale it does not really matter.
You can not watch the same movie all your life, although you can really enjoy some and watch it 5 or 10 times in a row, but eventually you'll stop doing it. It'll be a nonsense for you to watch it for eleventh or twenty first time.
I'm debating the same thing. Last time I got the premium package was mirkwood, and that was not actually billed as a premium package - think it was called the adventures package and was $20 more. I thought what was offered was worth it.
Next one, Isengard, I went with the cheep one. RoR I actually waited till after release and got it with TP. I later came to the conclusion I'd been happier biting the bullet and buying the premium. So this time I was planning on buying the premium but looking at the difference between it and the budget model I'm just not seeing the value. The Crystal of Remembrance, whats that... I have 4 in my vault right now, one of them without a lvl use tag on it. I know in the store it is for sale for $10, but it is also always for sale in game, for game gold and I'm sitting on more of that then I'll ever spend. Titles and cosmetic armor are meaningless to me. I'll never equip either free or no. Same with horses. Pre war horses; I always just rode my 'Ale association goat', now I either ride the goat or the warhorse.
This leaves 1000 tp and the "Shield of the Hammerhand" as the only inducement to spend an extra $20. A thousand TP can often be had for less then $10. So I'm looking at $10 - $13 for the hammerhand. Plus exp does not mean much to me. I have never had trouble leveling and usually level faster then I really want to. All my character slots are full with lvl 85's with maxed crafting. So while the idea of a cloak that levels with me would appeal to people with low level toons. Again it does nothing for me. Most of my characters have their gold class cloak and I'm thinking this hammerhand will not have better stats. Like to see what the stats on it are for lvl 85 toons.
So as things sit right now for me the answer is no. The premium package is not worth it. Maybe if they added an extra character slot to the package. Give me something I see value in. Maybe have a package with the character slot but minus the horses and cosmetics. This would tempt me.
I'm not looking into 'compare it with previous expansion feature by feature' when I want to buy game or expansion.
I'd rather look onto 'how many hours I am going to spent in game/expansion and how much I'm going to pay for it'.
Taking in consideration that average non-MMO game costs 40-50$ for 50-60 hours of gameplay and looking at the time that I have already spent on LOTRO I would say that LOTRO is not expensive and that if the quility of HD is about the same as quility of previous expansions then it definitely worth my money, no matter if it basic or premium edition.
The Godfather movie lasts 3 hours, yet I wouldn't change those 3 hours of my life for 300 playing LotRO. Because it is a masterpiece. (If you don't like the Godfather I am sure there are other movies you can think of in its place)
So the quality of the entertainment is very important, and recently, the quality of LotRO is questionable, even when compared to itself in years past.
So, comparing movie with game just does not work for me. Just like comparing apples to football.
And if I compare LOTRO to the other game.... well, it is already two or three months that I play LOTRO only cause I don't have time for any other game.
This all comes down to matter of opinion. For some they won't be enticed for the Premium version and go for the basic. Others will wait til the expansion launches and can purchase with TP. Myself, I pre-ordered the premium. This is because not only do I like the bonuses (the war steed cosmetic is awesome in its own), plus as a Life timer, I don't have to pay monthly. Therefore I find its the least i can do to pre order with full money. Not to mention I still have faith in Lotro.
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Comparing to basic, in my opinion answer is YES, its worth it. +1000TP, +10 quest slots, and a boost to the low level characters in form of the cloak-slot +25%exp/IXP item, with stats btw. Rest of bonus is nice to have flyff.
What isnt worth the money is the LI upgrade pack at the checkout - most of items are available ingame, and i anyway will miss out on movie ticket, so definitely pass on that.
Thank you, Turbine, for listening and giving us an opt-out of FE! Good work!
Will the +10 quest slots be available in-game just like the current +10 quests are obtainable by doing deeds?
That's not to say that there aren't bad releases--there certainly are. But I don't think pre-orders matter to that. They're much more likely to genuinely try for a good release because the long-term profit incentives of a good expansion are far, far greater.
But i pre-ordered. Like always. I still hope.
ontopic. Imo, the difference as money between basic and premium may worth, maybe for those TP, because i cannot imagine i would want something else. What is the point to have some cosmetics that EVERYONE will have them anyway. Regarding the 25% XP bonus ... i am using the tortoise on my alts to level slower. Only following the normal course, you will finish GR at 79-80, way too much for starting Rohan. Specialy since the Isengard and Rohan quests are so linear and you need to do them all for quest deeds, leveling is too easy and you have almost NO choices to choose another course as you had in Eriador until Moria. So why is the rush to have 50% extra leveling, is out of my mind. To have an alt mean that at least at Moria instances, stop and do them until you learn your skills, specialy for important classes like tanks and healers. Reaching 85 and later 95 in 5 days without having an clue about your class .... erm... why?
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> +10 quests slot : I already 50 slots... as all quests are now chained, I really don't need that
> Cosmetics : don't care, I have my pirate/prisonner style
> 2000 vs 1000 TP : I already have 10 000 TP... I can live with only 1000
> Crystal of remembrance : I played well enough with 6 legs, I can do without it, especially as there are less and less challenging content.
> 40 vs 60 dollars : 10 meaningless levels of quests, epic quests and big battle... that's it. I can have a triple A games for 60 dollars.
So, I will take the basic edition, because I'm less and less inspired by this game... and I fear worst compared with RoI. I don't like the change done to our classes... especially as you don't pay for it... It will be here whether you buy the add-on or not. I don't why it's even on the description of the add-on.
I have purchased all the expansions with money up until now. I think I'm going to skip this one pretty sure. Perhaps get it when it's on sale. With RoR, I only took main through it out of 9 chars.
There are a LOT of cool games coming out at the same time, a hard competition for Turbine - and I just ordered a brand new gaming PC. Besides I dislike idea of pig in a poke.
CHA 100, WRD 102, LM 83, RNK 81, GRD 82, CPT 67, MNS 65, HNT 65, BRG 60
Thank you, Turbine, for listening and giving us an opt-out of FE! Good work!
I agree whole heartily with this especially the last sentence. I have never pre purchased any game. And after the last two expansions being not so well recieved I have decided to wait until it goes on 50% sale and buying it with turbine points, then it will be worth buying. Of course this is my personal opinion and I don't expect the people that will buy anything for any price to really understand my motivations, but I won't just throw my money blindly at a company whose track record isn't that good anymore. I don't care for lose-lose senarios.
Mean what you say and say what you mean! If you don't there are always consequences!
This is real pig-in-a-poke stuff.
Are you seriously asking us this??? I can say if its worth it for me... But i cant answer if it is worth your money... Whats your income? Can you afford it? How invested are you in this game? Do you enjoy it? Do you want to support the developers?
These are the questions you need to ask your self...
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I pre ordered the premium edition but I didn't include optional order: 5k TP for $35 and now it's too late. Is it possible to get that 5k TP for $35 other way? I tried to use LOTRO store for TP but it offers only 5k TP for $45 I think that I didn't want.
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