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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainothon View Post
    Thanks for the report on your observations and keeping check like that. How much tokens did you obtain per hour?
    I wasn't noting the time as I was concentrating on 'just playing' and cleaning up slayer deeds, but it probably took a couple of hours.

    Next time I do stats I'll be sure to include timechecks as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alianne_EU View Post
    I wasn't noting the time as I was concentrating on 'just playing' and cleaning up slayer deeds, but it probably took a couple of hours.

    Next time I do stats I'll be sure to include timechecks as well.
    Your numbers do indeed indicate a couple of hours of time played. Thank you!

  3. #203
    Evernight last night for 3 hours: 4 gajillion mobs, 2 bags.. 10 tokens...

    Nothing wrong with the drops.. nope..they are fine sure..
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  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Solien View Post
    What is there to say? "Yes, we lowered the drop rate to stop you from running in circles and killing grey mobs because we want people at the Farmer's Faile. That way we can pretend it's popular and not yet another RNG-based grindfest."
    Here's what they can say:

    1) Don't worry because HD won't be released until <date> which ensures that all servers will have plenty of time to meet the goal and reap the benefits. (We are racing against an unknown deadline and have no way of determining if all our grinding/donations will even mean anything!)

    2) The reason we lowered the drop rate is <X>. (Then we can tell them what a stupid reason <X> is and why it is stupid. Hopefully they will see the error of their ways and reverse the action.)

    3) The drop rate will return to raised values immediately/on <date>/gradually, based on turn-in rates/never because <Y>. (They raised the drop rate in response to complaints and thus at least implied that the lower rate was a too low. Then they lowered it back to the "too low" rate without explanation. What kind of reaction were they expecting?)

    4) We really don't give a rat's nether region. Accept what we give you and suck it up. (This is all we can assume their answer is given their lack of interest.)

  5. #205
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    Well we can answer 1) now 18th November, so like 66? days.
    Nothing here matters.

  6. #206
    Now that we have a solid answer on when they intend to release Helm's Deep, it makes it easier to plan for how many tokens I need to collect per week. There's about 9 1/2 weeks until launch and I need about 6,340 tokens to get everything I want. Subtract 4 weeks because the Farmer's Faire goes on for another week, the Birthday event will probably last a week, and then the Fall Festival will likely last 2 weeks. That leaves 5 1/2 weeks where there SHOULD be an increased drop rate, which if they actually give us back the previous rate would be plenty of time to get enough tokens, given that I was farming an average of 800 a day prior to the Farmer's Faire. Please Turbine, return the drop rate to what it was so that your more casual players can hit their token goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fipiara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post
    When I look at DEATHKNYGHT's second graph in his sticky'd thread, I see something else. I see that in the first couple of days of the Faire, progress was only slighty hindered. A minority of servers is actually making more progress since the Faire activated (very impressive, Firefeet! (or other name the server populace prefers?)). ....
    The progress on Firefoot is more likely due to a decent drop rate from landscape mobs even after the Faire started than anything else. Whether it is intentional or not - that's anyone's guess.
    Oh, is that the case? I had no idea. I'm both very happy for you guys & quite envious!
    I wanted to check this out for myself. I know its not a huge sample, but its a big enough difference to really raise my eyebrows.

    This morning, I ran a new character through the Archet starter space on Firefoot and then on Silverlode, killing all mobs in sight, and counting as I went. Then I counted Bounder Bags when I reached 100 kills.

    Firefoot : 9
    Silverlode : 1


    Like I said, I know its not a big sample. Still, thats a huge difference. Can we get some #s from people on Firefoot that are killing thousands of mobs? How many bags/1000kills?

    @ Turbine : Don't nerf Firefoot's drop rate. Raise it for the rest of us to be equal to theirs, please!
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  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Evenprimes View Post
    I'm about to donate 35k from four accounts and see if I can make a visible change in the graph.
    It worked! Windfola's blip today is slightly larger than the previous few blips!
    A vote for Saruman is a vote for progress! Vote today!

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post
    I wanted to check this out for myself. I know its not a huge sample, but its a big enough difference to really raise my eyebrows.

    This morning, I ran a new character through the Archet starter space on Firefoot and then on Silverlode, killing all mobs in sight, and counting as I went. Then I counted Bounder Bags when I reached 100 kills.

    Firefoot : 9
    Silverlode : 1


    Like I said, I know its not a big sample. Still, thats a huge difference. Can we get some #s from people on Firefoot that are killing thousands of mobs? How many bags/1000kills?

    @ Turbine : Don't nerf Firefoot's drop rate. Raise it for the rest of us to be equal to theirs, please!
    Pretty ridiculous, and that's accurate as far as Silverlode's drop rate goes. I've been leveling my Hunter today and have killed well over 100 mobs, and got 1 bag with 5 tokens.
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post

    Like I said, I know its not a big sample. Still, thats a huge difference. Can we get some #s from people on Firefoot that are killing thousands of mobs? How many bags/1000kills?

    @ Turbine : Don't nerf Firefoot's drop rate. Raise it for the rest of us to be equal to theirs, please!

    I guess world-properties are edited world by world, instead of universally.

    I would second the 'Turn us all up to this rate'..

    I have 12k more tokens to acquire in 60 days. And thats assuming someone else steps in and finishes the last ~750k of the statue which I doubt, so I'll probably need to hand in a few more large batches there as well.
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  11. #211
    Last night I killed 206 or so worms in North Downs finishing up that deed, I also just killed every drake I came across, so I probably killed 230 mobs in that time and 1 bounders bag of 10 tokens dropped, so take that for what it's worth.

  12. #212
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    I have 14500 tokens to get in 60 days, but I keep procrastinating since the drop rate is so low. If I could get 1000 a day like I was, I'd be done in two weeks. As is, I'll be burned out from grinding if it takes six weeks at the current rate.

    7000 for two more characters to reach tier 3 and 7500 for a horse for all five characters.
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  13. #213
    For those people saying they need 14K or 21K more tokens in the next 60 days, why do you need these ? Just for cosmetics ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MithrielWielder View Post
    For those people saying they need 14K or 21K more tokens in the next 60 days, why do you need these ? Just for cosmetics ?
    I have already turned in 25,000 tokens in 'Bountiful Bounders' deeds for 10 characters on this account. ; Mostly during the increased drop-rate.

    Mount: 1500*10=15000-3000(what I have currently)=12000

    Our server barely broke the 1 million mark last night.
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  15. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by MithrielWielder View Post
    For those people saying they need 14K or 21K more tokens in the next 60 days, why do you need these ? Just for cosmetics ?
    I need 14,500 for:

    3500 Tokens per character for tier three. I still have two characters to hit tier three. So, 7000 tokens for that.
    then I want a horse for all five characters. At 1500 tokens each, I'll need 7500 tokens for all five characters to get the horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LethalLethality View Post
    I need 14,500 for:

    3500 Tokens per character for tier three. I still have two characters to hit tier three. So, 7000 tokens for that.
    then I want a horse for all five characters. At 1500 tokens each, I'll need 7500 tokens for all five characters to get the horse.
    T3 is 2500 total, including those used to hit T1 & T2, iirc Time for you to celebrate a little, I think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post
    T3 is 2500 total, including those used to hit T1 & T2, iirc Time for you to celebrate a little, I think!
    Yeah, my bad. I keep thinking it's 3500 for some reason.

    Anyways, some more ###### stats for tonight.

    Five loops of Sarnur first room, approximately 100 enemies per eight minute loop netted three bags with a total of 20 Tokens. :/

    So, 500-ish enemies=3 Bags=20 Tokens. Wonderful.
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  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by LethalLethality View Post
    Yeah, my bad. I keep thinking it's 3500 for some reason.

    Anyways, some more ###### stats for tonight.

    Five loops of Sarnur first room, approximately 100 enemies per eight minute loop netted three bags with a total of 20 Tokens. :/

    So, 500-ish enemies=3 Bags=20 Tokens. Wonderful.
    Sarnur is awful drop rate.

    Spent 5 hours in there the other day trying to grind out all the deeds. Got them all, from Scratch, except Icerender for the Avenger deed. Got 5 bags, for around 30 tokens.

    Laughably insulting to the player-base really.

    All The Best

  19. #219
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    Some more figures from Gilrain while doing slayer deeds.

    3-boxing trolls in Haerlog. Mobs killed: 180 in 30 minutes.
    Character 1: 4 bags, 20 tokens,
    Character 2: 10 bags, 155 tokens.
    Character 3: 10 bags, 75 tokens.
    Total: 24 bags, 250 tokens.

    6-boxing in the Shire. Round 1, slugs, wolves, harvest-flies and assorted trash mobs. Mobs killed: 633 in 60 minutes.
    Character 1: 31 bags, 275 tokens.
    Character 2: 35 bags, 375 tokens.
    Character 3: 30 bags, 245 tokens.
    Character 4: 30 bags, 335 tokens.
    Character 5: 41 bags, 530 tokens.
    Character 6: 33 bags, 335 tokens.
    Total: 200 bags, 2095 tokens.

    6-boxing in the Shire. Round 2, bandits, spiders and goblins. Mobs killed: 481 in 45 minutes.
    Character 1: 28 bags, 270 tokens.
    Character 2: 19 bags, 265 tokens.
    Character 3: 22 bags, 150 tokens.
    Character 4: 22 bags, 270 tokens.
    Character 5: 20 bags, 150 tokens.
    Character 6: 36 bags, 390 tokens.
    Total: 147 bags, 1495 tokens.

    The droprate may well have been increased for us as Gilrain is a very small server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evenprimes View Post
    It worked! Windfola's blip today is slightly larger than the previous few blips!
    You. have. the. power.

    Gratz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alianne_EU View Post
    Some more figures from Gilrain while doing slayer deeds.

    3-boxing trolls in Haerlog. Mobs killed: 180 in 30 minutes.
    Character 1: 4 bags, 20 tokens,
    Character 2: 10 bags, 155 tokens.
    Character 3: 10 bags, 75 tokens.
    Total: 24 bags, 250 tokens.

    6-boxing in the Shire. Round 1, slugs, wolves, harvest-flies and assorted trash mobs. Mobs killed: 633 in 60 minutes.
    Character 1: 31 bags, 275 tokens.
    Character 2: 35 bags, 375 tokens.
    Character 3: 30 bags, 245 tokens.
    Character 4: 30 bags, 335 tokens.
    Character 5: 41 bags, 530 tokens.
    Character 6: 33 bags, 335 tokens.
    Total: 200 bags, 2095 tokens.

    6-boxing in the Shire. Round 2, bandits, spiders and goblins. Mobs killed: 481 in 45 minutes.
    Character 1: 28 bags, 270 tokens.
    Character 2: 19 bags, 265 tokens.
    Character 3: 22 bags, 150 tokens.
    Character 4: 22 bags, 270 tokens.
    Character 5: 20 bags, 150 tokens.
    Character 6: 36 bags, 390 tokens.
    Total: 147 bags, 1495 tokens.

    The droprate may well have been increased for us as Gilrain is a very small server.
    That does indeed look a bit more encouraging than the previous data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post
    I
    like
    mise en abyme
    it
    lots
    Responding to Moochi's very clever use of [quote]

    I really hope that was a blip and all servers are equal as equal as can be in LOTRO RNG...
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  23. #223
    Silverlode has the same low drop rate atm afaik...

  24. #224
    If Silverlode gets the drop rate turned back up like Gilrain apparently has, it might be worth it to grind mobs again. As of yesterday I took my Hunter from level 60.5 to a little over 62 and got 1 bag of 10 tokens the entire time, had to have killed at least 200 mobs.
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    So, was bored and decided to log combat for a half hour in my favorite farming area:

    In all of that, five instances of getting bags for 45 tokens.

    Line 153: [09/13 03:20:44 PM] You have acquired [Bag of Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 159: [09/13 03:20:50 PM] You have acquired [5 Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 247: [09/13 03:23:05 PM] You have acquired [Bag of Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 248: [09/13 03:23:07 PM] You have acquired [20 Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 382: [09/13 03:26:46 PM] You have acquired [Bag of Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 384: [09/13 03:26:49 PM] You have acquired [5 Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 411: [09/13 03:27:30 PM] You have acquired [Bag of Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 412: [09/13 03:27:32 PM] You have acquired [5 Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 1088: [09/13 03:46:19 PM] You have acquired [Bag of Bounder's Tokens].
    Line 1092: [09/13 03:46:22 PM] You have acquired [10 Bounder's Tokens].


    *insert epic sadface*
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