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  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katiepie View Post
    Digero,

    Thank you for the updated Maestro with Bassoons! It's a fantastic little program, one that I have enjoyed for many years.

    I have noticed that the volumes between the Maestro and ABC player differ, could you be able to tell me which one if more true to the in game volume levels?

    If not I'll just make a few testers and find out for myself.

    Cheers mate!
    Interesting. Is this new with v2.5, or do you recall if it existed in 2.4 as well? There shouldn't be any difference in volume between the two, but it does sound to me that Maestro is louder than ABC Player.

    It's possible that there's something wrong with the fix I did in 2.4 to remove the Chorus/Reverb MIDI effects from the preview in Maestro. Java's MIDI player has chorus and reverb effects on by default, which make it sound louder but they don't match how the game sounds. I tried to turn them off but perhaps it's not working...

    I'll look into it when I have some time. I logged https://github.com/digero/maestro/issues/15 to track it.
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  2. #302
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    I do not recognize a Brusque Bassoon...where does that come from?

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Casilune View Post
    I do not recognize a Brusque Bassoon...where does that come from?
    Hi,

    Take it as a preview. Brusque Bassoon will be added during the Yule fest.

    For once Maestro is ahead of an update^^

    ./toasts

    Zed'

  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splik View Post
    No problem.

    A note though:
    The stereo in Maestro messes up our ability to properly tune the volumes, as its hard to hear the volume of instruments that are panned differently.
    Hope you will consider a stereo toggle option for Maestro ala. ABCPlayer, remove stereo in Maestro or at least make the panning much less. That would increase our ability to tune the songs better.

    Glad you are back, I will stop working on Maestro, now that you are back.
    I recently upgraded my Maestro and ABC Player (last time I updated was before violins and bassoons) and after some testing I have found that sometimes instruments heavily favor one side or the other. I am assuming this relates to the above bug regarding panning. The bug was present before the new instruments was presented, I just don't think it was noticeable as much with the vanilla instruments. I only noticed it after extensively switching between the violins. None of the other instrument types were on both sides of the fence (as you'll see in the list below), yet some of the violins favored left and some favored right, which is how I noticed it.

    I have a 3-piece song that I composed. It is designed to feature a flute, a harp, and a violin. Prior to violins, I substituted in a clarinet and of course used the vanilla harp and flute. Now that we have extra instruments, I have been playing around with different instrument combinations. My preferred selection for this song is the MM Harp, the Basic Flute, and the LM Fiddle.

    Left pan dominant:
    All "Bowed Strings" category EXCEPT Sprightly (see below)
    Basic Flute
    Basic Bagpipe
    Both Harps

    Right pan dominant:
    Traveller's Trusty Fiddle
    Sprightly Fiddle
    All bassoons
    Basic Clarinet
    Both Lutes
    Basic Theorbo*
    Basic Horn*
    Basic Pibgorn*

    *-Felt closer to equalization than the rest.

    I generally dislike when instruments aren't panned equally to both ears/speakers (despite what the ear doctors said last time my hearing was checked, it makes me feel out of balance) and would greatly like to see the ability to manually pan instruments. When listening to the original midi, the instruments are panned equally and then the moment I switch to the LOTRO ABC instruments, they pan off to either side depending on which instrument I am using.

    I do not know how noticeable (if at all) it is in-game, but I greatly enjoy using a combination of Anvil Studio, Maestro and ABC Player to create music for uses outside of LOTRO and would love to see the panning equalized.

    Thanks for the great work on this project!
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  5. #305

    converting the new songs i've made to mp3 (instaling Lame, HELP!!!)

    could anyone give me a quick installation guide to installing the Lame the free MP3 encoder? I have downloaded the 3.100 Tar.gz files then extracted using WinRar...and all I got is a few files with a batch file. do i need a different file? Help!!!

  6. #306
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    Quote Originally Posted by linkofgondor View Post
    could anyone give me a quick installation guide to installing the Lame the free MP3 encoder? I have downloaded the 3.100 Tar.gz files then extracted using WinRar...and all I got is a few files with a batch file. do i need a different file? Help!!!
    Not a program I'm familiar with but it does say on the Sourceforge site that you can only get the source code from there. If you want an executable file that uses Lame you have to look here - http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php

    Maybe WinLame? https://winlame.sourceforge.io/

  7. #307

    Thumbs up

    Thanks a lot! With midi-collection at midi.ru your program best for my weekend!

  8. #308
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    Java Error

    I haven't used Maestro for a week or so. Today, I start it up and get a message that it requires Java 7.0 32 bit or higher. I have Java 8 64 bit. I have uninstalled and reinstalled both Java and Maestro, restarted the comp. Any suggestions?
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  9. #309
    I would love to have an uncomplicated way to turn an MP3 into an abc file.

    I have music I absolutely love but don't have the patience to use some of the programs out there.
    Corn Is Lore appropiate!!
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  10. #310
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    Where do songs go on a Mac after the WINE update?

    The Wiki hasn't been updated, and all I can find are references to Windows pathing which aren't valid on a Mac.

    I'd greatly appreciate some help! I have one Windows laptop, but normally play on Mac equipment.


    Thanks!

  11. #311
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariwen55 View Post
    I would love to have an uncomplicated way to turn an MP3 into an abc file.

    I have music I absolutely love but don't have the patience to use some of the programs out there.
    I don't have a direct recommendation, but I think what you'll need to do is convert your MP3 first to MIDI, then use Maestro to convert it to ABC. I am not an expert, but I've been working with Maestro and ABC for a week or so and they're pretty easy for basic stuff.

    There's an excellent tutorial on ABC at http://www.lesession.co.uk/abc/abc_notation.htm, but LOTRO doesn't implement the full language, so it's easy to do something in your notation that doesn't parse.

  12. #312
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariwen55 View Post
    I would love to have an uncomplicated way to turn an MP3 into an abc file.

    I have music I absolutely love but don't have the patience to use some of the programs out there.
    I should have added, Ariwen, that with a little web searching you can frequently find MIDI versions of most music, then you're half-way to making an ABC. If you can't find a MIDI, then finding guitar chord tabs would be a good start to crafting your own ABC.

    And here's another good bunch of possibilities: https://www.google.com/search?q=convert+mp3+to+midi
    Last edited by Cloudster; Nov 17 2019 at 09:17 PM.

  13. #313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belriel View Post
    I haven't used Maestro for a week or so. Today, I start it up and get a message that it requires Java 7.0 32 bit or higher. I have Java 8 64 bit. I have uninstalled and reinstalled both Java and Maestro, restarted the comp. Any suggestions?
    Same for me, any ideas?

  14. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by SavileRow View Post
    Same for me, any ideas?
    Have you tried installing Java 32-bit too? You can have both 32- and 64-bit versions installed at the same time. Maestro runs well for me with both versions of Java 8 installed.
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  15. #315
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    Thank you Lina, I'll give it a go.

    **edit**...it worked, thank you so much Lina!
    Last edited by SavileRow; Dec 07 2019 at 04:50 PM.

  16. #316
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    Music on a Macintosh post-Wine installer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudster View Post
    The Wiki hasn't been updated, and all I can find are references to Windows pathing which aren't valid on a Mac.

    I'd greatly appreciate some help! I have one Windows laptop, but normally play on Mac equipment.

    Thanks!
    Song locations on a Mac after the Wine update go in Documents\The Lord of the Rings Online\Music. Plays just fine on a Mac. I've been able to run Poetical on my Mac, works just fine. I haven't yet worked on getting Maestro/ABC Player working, but theoretically they may work since they're Java apps, you just can't load the Windows MSI installation package.

  17. #317
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    Mac users don't need to install MSI file.
    Just extract MSI file or download a zip file and extract it.
    They should be able to open .jar files:
    AbcPlayer.jar
    Maestro.jar

    If you get error, update your java.

 

 
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