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    Hunter Legendaries

    The hunter legendaries are still as good as they were on lvl 50. Literally. How come the legendaries aren't scaled up with level, like legendaries of other classes? For instance the cpt's IDOME that buffs now +85 instead of +50.

    Press Onward is basically useless at lvl 85. You get a heal for 2.8k max with 1k power. Now that ain't right...I heal faster with an out of combat regen. Thought this skill was meant to quickly give us a heal when we needed it.
    Bow of the Righteous is also in need of a dire improvement. The base cost of a lvl 85 skill is 170 power with a 7.7 to 11 power return given by Bard's Arrow. Which imo is neglectible even in long battles.

    So there we go. The 2 skills that imo were helping out the hunter in SoA have so far been neglected and over the years have lost their ability to help a hunter. And I don't care if you say it's become bloody easy to just pew pew and it dies. If it's easy that's Turbine's content fault. Which is different then skill negligence.

    Anyways, would be good to see if these two skills scale with the level and don't lose their touch which made a difference in alot of situations during SoA.
    Last edited by Turulnya; Aug 11 2013 at 02:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turulnya View Post
    The hunter legendaries are still as good as they were on lvl 50. Literally. How come the legendaries aren't scaled up with level, like legendaries of other classes? For instance the cpt's IDOME that buffs now +85 instead of +50.

    Press Onward is basically useless at lvl 85. You get a heal for 2.8k max with 1k power. Now that ain't right...I heal faster with an out of combat regen. Thought this skill was meant to quickly give us a heal when we needed it.
    Bard's Arrow is also in need of a dire improvement. The base cost of a lvl 85 skill is 170 power with a 7.7 to 11 power return given by Bard's Arrow. Which imo is neglectible even in long battles.

    So there we go. The 2 skills that imo were helping out the hunter in SoA have so far been neglected and over the years have lost their ability to help a hunter. And I don't care if you say it's become bloody easy to just pew pew and it dies. If it's easy that's Turbine's content fault. Which is different then skill negligence.

    Anyways, would be good to see if these two skills scale with the level and don't lose their touch which made a difference in alot of situations during SoA.
    I think you mean Bow Of The Righteous. Bard's arrow is still marginally useful, (fear 1 enemy for 15 seconds with 30s cooldown) BOTR however is almost useless... The Easternet Tome of the wind-rider saves about double the legendary trait.

    (while we are at it, they really should also improve "Improved" Strength of the Earth (incombat regen actually gives more power than the channeled skill)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaecynt View Post
    I think you mean Bow Of The Righteous.
    Yes! That's right, kinda mixed up the names. But aye. It's pretty much useless. Even if you're playing in Endurance Stance it is but a small margin of the power cost.
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    From an outsiders point of view(I don't play a hunter) You guys seem to be in a pretty decent place overall, better off than some classes at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OruiFarimur View Post
    From an outsiders point of view(I don't play a hunter) You guys seem to be in a pretty decent place overall, better off than some classes at least.
    Come role a hunter. Without top gear at every tier, you can't DPS enough to keep yourself from dying. Most people give up on hunter by 40 because of it. The highest DPS class right now is RK when traited and equipped for it. Best single point is a burg that knows how to lay the game. Dedicated hunters are left out to dry. Our burst DPS is negligible now that NPC health is super high. And our high burst causes us to lose a large amount of power for many. I am traited 3r, 3b and heightened senses. This next expansion is make or break for hunters. We got 3 new skills this last time, and 1 was improved split shot (useless). Solo or moors I can't think of a better class for someone who understands the game, and loves range to play. But for grouping and such, we hold no weight anymore when you can scrap a hunter for a DPS RK and so on.

    As for the OP, our "Legendary Traits" are just the opposite and it has been brought up time after time. It seems to be a mute point during RoR and it is getting annoying that we have gotten overlooked. Ever since RoI, when every class got single point DPS, hunters have been on the decline. Legacies, traits and so on need a major revamp to keep up with the changes or we will be support, and not major DPS after HD. They say the classes are now balanced, but I think there are still small outliers. Hunters don't need to be OP like SoA and Moria, but they need to find a balance with the other classes especially when it comes to traits and legacies.

    P.S. Guardian base traits need to scale with the levels too imo. They seem to get out dated after awhile. If they already made that change, sorry I haven't been hardcore guard in awhile.

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    I have a lvl 85 Champ and a level 85 Hunter and I love them both.
    With my Champ I can rush in and kill everything without even thinking, which is not true with my hunter. But with the right traits and legacies you can focus on high burst DPS and survivability at the same time. Mounted, I like my hunter better (a mounted champ is rather boring, except for the Horn AoE skill), especially dismounting foes is fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peresbert View Post
    The highest DPS class right now is RK when traited and equipped for it. Best single point is a burg that knows how to lay the game. Dedicated hunters are left out to dry.

    I can only say: If RK does more dps then you, you are doing it wrong. Also... you have RK in your list of dps classes and champ is missing??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peresbert View Post
    The highest DPS class right now is RK when traited and equipped for it.
    The highest DPS class now is champion/hunter. Top RK DPS is few hundreds DPS behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peresbert View Post
    Best single point is a burg that knows how to lay the game.
    This was very true during RoI, but in RoR even in solo situation burgs have lower ST DPS than champ/hunt. In group their debuffs will benefit others as well so the DPS gap will be bigger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peresbert View Post
    Our burst DPS is negligible now that NPC health is super high.
    Assuming you meant landscape fights, as in instances NPC morale usually does not matter at all: hunters have the highest initial burst DPS - with a single Improved Focus a lvl 85 hunt can easily kill an on-level normal mob within 5 sec or a signature in 10 sec.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peresbert View Post
    And our high burst causes us to lose a large amount of power for many. I am traited 3r, 3b and heightened senses.
    Although Burn Hot now costs about 1k power, it greatly increases our damage and decreases power cost for 20 secounds. It is not how long it takes for a hunter to run out of power, but how much total damage a hunter does using X amount of power that matters (when there is no LM or cpt to give the hunt power support). Therefore I won't suggest traiting Heightened Sense for reducing power cost.
    Last edited by Farasilion; Aug 12 2013 at 12:00 PM.
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