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    Moria Kinship - Lock 59/60 - Play the game as it was intended

    So after 3 successive rounds of leveling to cap and then grinding endlessly against a few instances to flesh out characters I've had it. I'm done. I love the game and the way it plays but the later content has not been as satisfying or challenging as the level 50 to 60 endgame was. The Race to Foundry and then Sambrog has played out for me.

    Here's what I propose as an alternative: I'm thinking that the level 60 endgame, which included all the Moria instances, Dar Nargubud, The Rift, Helegrod, etc, was more challenging and interesting for 6 to 12 man groups to run. All of that content is tuned to support 1 hour runs and 3 hour raids if run at appropriate levels. In addition to the long content you have Filikul and Watcher as short sharply defined runs that produce rewards. All of these areas are still very challenging even for well geared 60's. They all require good play to complete successfully.

    This Kinship would be for mature players with a role playing accent. We'd be looking for people who were interested in a good social experience and challenging content to play against.

    The advantages of playing in a locked Kinship are many. You can outfit your character with the best and brightest stuff and then easily move on to creating another locked character as an alt. That character can also get outfitted with the best stuff without turning LOTRO into a full-time job.

    Moria, Lothlorien, Eregion, Mirkwood and Enedwaith are still available as farming and XP zones for leveling your epic weapons. Older zones, like Angmar and Forchel have not yet grayed out and still offer good RP opportunities if not much leveling.

    The Kinship would lock at character choice of level 59 or 60 using the Stone of the Tortoise to disable character leveling. Tradeskills and epic weapons level normally under the Tortoise the only thing that gets turned off is XP that goes towards leveling.

    Locking at 60 would make your character as powerful as it can get under the system. Level 60 1st Age epic weapons and the third Legendary skill trait would be the primary rewards for doing this since level 60 armor is often no better than the quested armor received in the Moria quest lines.

    Locking at 59 would give you access to tasks in order to more easily level your 59 epic weapons. Once you go to 60 there are no tasks available to the character until 61. Many resources say that there are tasks available at the 21st Hall board until level 61. This is not true, at 60 the board is out of level and the next task board is in Galtrev and accessible to 61 as the minimum level.

    What would the Kinship do at 59 or 60?

    Play the game.

    Not grind endlessly against a limited set of targets for one currency that gets the best gear in the game only to see that gear all obsoleted as soon as the level cap or next instance cluster comes out.

    Every epic weapon that your character gets under the locked level concept is a weapon they will use as long as they play the game. Getting multiple 1st Age weapons built with different stats and legacies will be an achievable goal because all of the extra play required to get that weapon will remain valuable.

    For people who want organized PvP the access to Freep side would be closed off. To compensate the Kinship will have a Creep Tribe that PvP's on a regular basis.

    What would the Kinship schedule look like?

    Monday - Raids
    Tuesday - Instances and PvP
    Wednesday - Raids
    Thursday - Instances and PvP
    Friday - Instances and PvP
    Saturday - Instances and PvP
    Sunday - Raids

    We'd schedule raids to not conflict with the most common raids nights for endgame raiding kins. This would be to allow endgame raiders to play alts in our Kin. Endgame raiders tend to get the most burned out on the grind at the cap each iteration. Having a low-key Kin with challenging content and no pressure to gear up would likely draw a sizeable contingent to the Kin to raid in each dead interval before the next expansion.

    We'd do role play events as circumstance permitted. I can see open country horse races, sparring tournaments and tall-tale telling as obvious choices and other interesting contests as we developed our world.

    If you're interested in playing the game against endgame content that was designed when endgame was still a priority sign on below and I will start setting things up.

    Hope everybody who reads this got something out of it even if you're not interested.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    This sounds fantastic. I know there are a lot of level 50 cap kins out there, but this is the first level 60 cap kin I've heard of. Moria endgame was just as good as Angmar endgame IMO. Actually, Moria was my 'heyday' in LOTRO.

    Your description of this kinship sounds incredibly tempting. First Age legendaries that stay with you. It would actually be worth the time and effort to create multiple sets for different builds. I'm intrigued by the 'role-playing accent' and creep tribe too.

    I have a Champion sitting at 49 right now that I could possibly bring into this. My problem is time. I'm currently involved with two leveling groups (one of which I lead):

    Tues & Sat is SoA lvl group on Riddermark (current level 22)
    Wed & Sun is my casual level group on Brandywine (current level 61)
    I also have two level-cap characters on Brandywine for running stuff with my kinnies
    Besides this, I work full time, have a toddler, and am taking a couple classes in the fall.

    In spite of my time constraints, I think I would really like to try to be a part of this. Do you have a kinship set up? Or possibly even just a user-created chat channel for now? Actually, the chat channel would be great for those of us with mains in another kinship (which I suspect would be most of us). My champ's name is Maeres.
    MINSTREL and member of the vocal minority

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    I just wanted to add a suggestion to maybe advertise in game for this. You'll reach a lot more people there than in the forums. Also, I think I may have one or more people on board in my kinship.
    MINSTREL and member of the vocal minority

  4. #4
    I'll be doing some in-game advertising as soon as I can figure out how to capture the target audience of mature players without offending the kids on summer vacation in the process.

    Good idea though. I'm working on a short, concise and hopefully inoffensive blurb for the Kin.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    what's the name of the kin?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    How about "Moria Tourism Agency"
    Last edited by Frieja; Jul 21 2013 at 05:00 PM. Reason: removed advertisement suggestion
    MINSTREL and member of the vocal minority



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