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  1. #1
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    Is speed ranking the new thing on Silverlode?

    I'm kinda a new kid on the block to PVP as I've been playing less than a year. With the current system, I'm not slow ranking by any means. I had a lot of time when I first started last fall (4 months of mostly homebound time after ankle surgery), and I have put a lot of my PVE time into PVPing since I realized I: a) enjoy it, b) have made friends, and c) am fairly bored with the PVE game at this time. I also realize the infamy/renown system has changed in a way that encourages faster ranks. (I remain bummed I did not give PVP a try sooner in my LOTRo love affair)

    More and more lately, I'm seeing a disturbing trend on Silverlode - primarily multi-boxing in the Moors. I'm not an anti-multiboxer, in general. In PVE-land, I see folks with their fellowship of clones, and I giggle. I don't really *get* it, but I don't really care. However, in the Moors, it bothers me. I am seeing an entire group of people that are multiboxing toons to rank faster. On creepside, they raid up constantly and zerg all over the map to PVE (and faceroll lone freeps). Combine that with those +100% infamy/renown buffs, and we are getting ranked creeps and freeps faster than Ihop puts out pancakes! Hence we have a WL that went from R10 - R11 in 20 days. Yep. Twenty days.

    I hear a lot of people complaining that they find these sorts of behaviors wrong or lacking in integrity, yet these folks are regularly in the main raid/group during prime time. Apparently, they are sometimes multiboxing during those times too!!??!! At what point do we take a stand if this is something we disagree with? What responsibilities do we, as players, have to try and hold some integrity to our little place of PVP? What actions can we take? Or, do we just not care anymore?

  2. #2
    happens in snowbourn too. Clubbing for ranks that is. I dont know if there is now some reason that freeps all around the servers have been suddenly started doing this more.

    All I know that it was strictly forbidden and severely punished back in the days.. but now they(our new masters) say that they cant do nothing about it until they find out way to identify clubbers reliably.


    atleast so far no creep has been punished for relogging to creep to attack these freaver trains before they hit their destination or atleast to lower the gain of renown that one freep would get for "solo killing" all of that train with help of one shotters. so thats all we can do now. tag the clubber with heals and/or hit all of his freaver train.
    Last edited by Tenuke; Jul 18 2013 at 02:24 PM.

  3. #3
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    What type of multiboxing are we talking about here? Six spiders or something like that?


    Or are you talking about playing both sides at the same time?
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    This isn't about clubbing. Also, multi-boxing to play both sides is a different issue. I realize that multi-boxing is not a violation of Turbine's rules. I am not certain they intended it to be used in a PVP zone, but until they say something otherwise, there's not a lot to be done about it. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a conversation about it, as players. We can create a server culture as we want it to be, if we want to do that. We can set expectations, if we so choose. The question, really, is what would we want that culture to look like, and how would we encourage folks to join in?

    The issue I bring up here is someone running, for example - a dps class and a cappy together through the Moors. Or their defiler and reaver - or whatever classes they have. They are trying to rank both together. Sometimes, you'll get a group where multiple folks are multi-boxing. If they have macros set up, this practice gives them an unfair advantage over players that are just playing one toon. I also just think it goes against the spirit of the PVP zone.

    My main goal with this thread is really just to have a discussion about what do we, as the players that PVP on Silverlode, think constitutes playing with integrity in the Moors? Are there boundaries that we feel we should hold players to? (For example - no multi-boxing while grouped) Or, do we just not care? Is getting to R15 the fastest way possible the only thing folks care about anymore?
    Last edited by Sariela; Jul 18 2013 at 03:22 PM.

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    We don't as far as I know have a clubbing problem on Silverlode, at least not how they define it on other servers. Those people are outed pretty quickly cause we have.....hall monitors.

    Multi-boxing, I think is stupid. I know people that do it on freepside, it bothers me. I've never seen them roll around attacking solo greenies, they mostly will sit in the raid or have the "other" toon tag along. Not saying they don't roll around and attack solo creeps just that I've never seen it.

    So the other toon leeches renown from the raid, who cares. Turbine negated any importance rank had in this game with the whole renown/infamy sharing change that was made in U10 iirc when it was done. It still bothers me though . Does rank even matter on creepside anyway? You could have a rank 0 toon with rank 15 skills if they have enough TP. I'm prolly exaggerating but you get the point.

    They got rid of the kb deed importance and give out +100% renown bonuses through the store. (I bought some, i use them sometimes, usually after the big fight is over of course). Turbine has more or less trivialized every accomplishment you could hang your hat on. Now we all get to ask if you got your Battlemaster deed done before or after the change and did you rank before or after blah blah blah. None of the other stuff matters anymore, it's the fights that count, everything else was taken away. It's all for friendship and trying to eek out a bit of fun.

    **edit With battlefield promotions rank does matter on Freepside. This came up last night in raid and someone made a comment about having access to legendary weapons via moors rank. It took every fiber of my being to keep my mouth shut there. So if I was a Creepside regular it would really bug me to see Freeps multi-boxing to rank faster.
    Last edited by Ghosttaker; Jul 18 2013 at 02:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosttaker View Post

    Multi-boxing, I think is stupid. I know people that do it on freepside, it bothers me. I've never seen them roll around attacking solo greenies, they mostly will sit in the raid or have the "other" toon tag along. Not saying they don't roll around and attack solo creeps just that I've never seen it.
    I was killed on my solo warg this AM by someone multi-boxing their LM and cappy. It happens more often than you think. (It was after I started this thread)

    Personally, I ask people to leave their boxed toon out of groups if I am lead. I think it's lazy and disrespectful. Rank matters on freepside because of access to weapons/gear and battlefield promotions. Rank matters on creepside because of battlefield promotions. Yes, some buy their skills, but not all of us do. I know several creeps who wait to earn their skills.

    I started this discussion because I've heard so many say just this, Morteth - that it bothers them - but no one is talking about it publicly. If no one says "hey, this is an issue" then there is no way to address it. People just assume no one cares.

  7. #7
    I'm with you Rig. And I'm not saying all creeps buy skills. It diminishes the hard work others put in to get things. I think the dualboxing thing is lame regardless.

  8. #8
    Most people and I mean most people who play this game will always take the "easy way" to play this game. How many people do you see just enter the moors and the first thing they say is "can I get an invite to the raid?"....They don't check around and see if a raid is even needed. They just want to raid up because it takes way less skill to raid than to solo or small group. Heck, it takes zero skill in a raid to rank up. So until they make it like it was when this game first came out again (2-3 infamy /renown in a raid) then people will continue to do it.
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