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    Maximum unbuffed agility at 85 for hunter?

    I have tried to calculate maximum unbuffed (no buff of any kind, no proc from rings/item) agility value for hunter.
    I calculated it by looking at my gear / legacies / racial bonuses / traits and adding what I lack.

    If I am correct it is: 3247 agility

    Is anybody able to confirm this? Or share their calculations if they suggest otherwise?

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    lets see...

    earring1-162-fornost earring
    earring2-162-fornost earring
    necklace-162 sunbrand neck
    brace1-162-HL brace
    brace2-162-HL brace
    ring1-150-former ring
    ring2-150-former ring
    pocket-162- Hunter token
    mainhand-172-LI
    offhand-150-Sambrog club
    bow-172-LI
    helm-162-t2 set
    shoulders-162-t2 set
    cloak-162-t2 sest
    jacket-162-t2 set
    gloves-162-t2 set
    legs-162-t2 set
    boots-162-t2 set

    =2900

    72 from virts
    15 from elf race bonus
    80 from rank 8 agil tomes.
    base agil-362

    3,429

    damn thats alot of agility

    that translate to about... 45k mastery unbuffed. 46k if you use 2 honourable hunter bangles(id rather HL)
    -28 agil cuz id rather use hunter dagger than sambrog club
    Last edited by Patriotp3a; Jun 15 2013 at 08:19 PM.
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    Thanks for the detailed list, it got me thinking.
    Please keep in mind we are talking maximum possible agility, not a reasonable build (hence 40 agility relics instead the superior ones are allowed, etc.).

    Here are some remarks:


    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotp3a View Post

    mainhand-172-LI
    bow-172-LI
    37 weapon title Agility of Eldar Days II
    71 legacy of agility maxed (First Age, 3 star-lits)
    27 Red Agate Gem of Dexterity
    35 True Rune of the White Mountains
    40 Emblem of Agility
    ---
    210 total (per weapon)


    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotp3a View Post
    72 from virts
    48 Determination
    24 Tolerance
    12 Mercy
    ---
    84 Total

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotp3a View Post
    base agil-362
    No offence, but this seems way too high. To get base, you would need to be completely naked, all virtues un-equipped, substract agility stat tomes you have, substract racial bonuses.
    I am quite sure this would be considerably lower then, as my other stats like will are 2-digit numbers.
    --
    Edit: it seems to be 112 (calculated by substracting).
    Last edited by hurant; Jun 16 2013 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurant View Post
    Thanks for the detailed list, it got me thinking.
    Please keep in mind we are talking maximum possible agility, not a reasonable build (hence 40 agility relics instead the superior ones are allowed, etc.).

    Here are some remarks:




    37 weapon title Agility of Eldar Days II
    71 legacy of agility maxed (First Age, 3 star-lits)
    27 Red Agate Gem of Dexterity
    35 True Rune of the White Mountains
    40 Emblem of Agility
    ---
    210 total (per weapon)



    48 Determination
    24 Tolerance
    12 Mercy
    ---
    84 Total


    No offence, but this seems way too high. To get base, you would need to be completely naked, all virtues un-equipped, substract agility stat tomes you have, substract racial bonuses.
    I am quite sure this would be considerably lower then, as my other stats like will are 2-digit numbers.
    --
    Edit: it seems to be 112 (calculated by substracting).
    Yup, you are right. I didnt think of the max agil relics. Also forgot mercy(i dont use it) and the subtraction of virtues/stat tomes from base agil.
    Its still.alot of agility though. Even just using true relics you can stack high agil without dropping overall mastery.
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    If that's the max then I have to ask what is normal? I think my dwarf hunter is around 2100 agility. That's with no raid gear. (hard to find time to raid with 9 month old twins)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkBadgewick View Post
    If that's the max then I have to ask what is normal? I think my dwarf hunter is around 2100 agility. That's with no raid gear. (hard to find time to raid with 9 month old twins)
    The only "normal" agility is whatever amount you feel is necessary to do the content you like to do. Same goes for physical mastery and your crit rating, and every other stat. I personally feel like I can't get my agility above 3000 without seriously penalizing other stats. But I don't have the very best end game items either.

    Grats on the twins too btw, I'm sure you need more real life agility to handle things on the home front than our pixelated characters will ever need in game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkBadgewick View Post
    If that's the max then I have to ask what is normal? I think my dwarf hunter is around 2100 agility. That's with no raid gear. (hard to find time to raid with 9 month old twins)
    Most of the raid geared hunters I know are sitting around 2800-3000 agility. Non raiders vary a lot, so that is harder to say what is normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkBadgewick View Post
    If that's the max then I have to ask what is normal? I think my dwarf hunter is around 2100 agility. That's with no raid gear. (hard to find time to raid with 9 month old twins)
    If im not mistaken top hunts back at 75 were rockin 2500+. Though now normal would be 2700-3k+ most raiding hunters prob in the high 2800s atleast by now. Easier to get masteryfrom raw pm after a certttain agil
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkBadgewick View Post
    If that's the max then I have to ask what is normal? I think my dwarf hunter is around 2100 agility. That's with no raid gear. (hard to find time to raid with 9 month old twins)
    I suppose you could call me a casual grouper, I've managed to get up to 2700 agility with Hytbold gear and reasonably good relics , plus all teal jewelry and weapon, plus 2 class golds. I think you should find 2600 achievable, in particular theres a lot to be gained from grouping. Not only the drops but the relics and marks mean you can improve via your LI really quite quickly. The LI grind can look intimating but pick a level that you want to get to eg. Great river relics give a better effort:reward ratio than say guilding your crafter for the beat crafted relic. (dont focus on that example - look at the wiki entry decide how many shards is reasonable to you etc)

    Doing some quick 6 man's should be possible, fornost might take 10 mins, sambrog I was doing in 6 with certain pugs. Plus the gold you get opens up the AH to buy better jewelry.

    Good luck and happy gaming.
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