Back to skraids if you didn't get a symbol
Back to skraids if you didn't get a symbol
I don't think the farming is over - you just have to run it at T2. That should be doable for most groups still.
It's basically saying Durchest and Twins are not dropping symbols, period, tier 1 and tier 2.■Reduced the quality of the regular boss chests for Durchest and the Twins on Tier 1 and Tier 2. They will no longer drop 2nd Age Symbols, among other things. Challenge chests and the Lieutenants chest remain unaffected.
Or am I reading it wrong?
Pretty clear to me. Pretty much seems like they're stopping Durch t1 farms (thank you!) and actually making an incentive to either run t2c or do a full clear on t1. It's putting the rewards where they should be, and is a change for the better (imo). My only issue is that I think this happened way too late. For the people who weren't clearing t2c before, I don't really see them bothering to go into BG anymore, because they probably have everything they need.Challenge chests and the Lieutenants chest remain unaffected.
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The way I read it is that symbols will not drop if you don't do the challenge mode. Not a bad thing tbh, back to normal I would say. That type of loot should be a reward for a hard job, not for 10 mins of picking your nose since running up to durchest is so boring. As if you need a second ager for casual playing.
So yeah, to get a chance at a symbol you need to complete a t2c run. Which most won't.
Can't wait to start listening to the complaints...
Here's what I think Turbine is doing wrong: it's going from one extreme to the other. It was super easy before and now it will be much harder when in comparison. The result will be angry costumers.
Why not reduce the chance by 50%? Or limit one symbol instead of 3 that I saw in some runs? That would ease the farming without making it seem "impossible" when compared to the faceroll that was before.
PS: I'm not saying I'm not happy with the change. I was actually one of people on these boards to show skepticism the second I saw BG had no locks and symbols were dropping in T1. The thing is, Turbine gave the cheese (and the bread, and the butter, and the ham, and the knife...) to the players, and now is taking almost everything away.
PPS: It doesn't affect me the slighest. I have 3 toons with all their lvl 85 LIs. I'm set for the months to come. But for those who don't raid, this was an alternative to get the best LI the game has to offer. People who I never seen before were actually forming and joining groups. It gave the game a new life as people were/are sick of skraids and running Hytbold dailies. But now it's been taking away.
Just poor timing (should have been done when it launched) imo.
what for me is rediculous is that now it is harder to get an 2nd ager then it was at level 75. BG durchest T2CM takes about 2 1/2 hours. same as running the whole raid on T1.
At level 75 ok there were locks on the dragon but first you got automaticly one symbol when killing the dragon the first time and the dragoich took only 20-40 minutes to take down.
Basically what this means is waiting until 2nd Age symbols go back into the skirmish barter camp for a lot of people.
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An entire BG T2C clear shouldn't take more than 2 hours all together, if your group knows what they're doing. If Durch takes you 2.5 hours, you're doing something very wrong.
On T1 with pugs it would even be worse, especially since in pugs they tend to drop after a single wipe for whatever reason, and you have to find more people to replace the ones that dropped. Then you have the reexplain the fight for the 10th time to the new group of people. wipe again because the new people weren't listening...etc.
2 1/2 hours with minimal afk's and having to explain everything for a few times seems reasonable.
Yep once again I'm screwed out of getting in on the farm. I just hit 85 last night so I didn't get into a single raid. So all my friends have second ages and I have no chance of getting one because I don't have 2 1\2 hours to spend on the full raid. Even if I do have time no one is going to be doing it now because pretty much everyone else at cap already has their symbols. So thanks a lot Turbine. You have now eliminated my reason to play.
I for one am glad. I was tired of burchest being the only thing anyone ran. Biggest issue for me was I ran out of anything to get that is worth the trouble in the end I ran them because I needed the marks and my kinmates needed symbols. Also from my observation BG was only a slight improvement over skraids on symbol chance. For some classes especially tanks it seemed symbols dropped alot for others not so much. also BG is not your only hope of getting a symbol. There are also skraids which in my opinion give you the best jewelry as well as the symbols. I am really surprised people stopped running them so quickly.
2.5 hours for a single boss... No.
They only let this sort of farming slide to distract us from the fact that they lied for months about the instance cluster being ready in 2012.
Didn't cost them a thing, except maybe some SLC purchases, and they probably made a gold mine selling empowerment scrolls.
Not sure why they're bothering to stop it. Textbook case of closing the barn door after the horses had bolted.
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