The recent talk about Beorn and his line has started me pondering again about the topic of his origins. It might have been brought up here before, but I think y'all could bear it again. (get it? bear?)
In The Hobbit Gandalf says-
and...Some say that he is a bear descended from the great and ancient bears of the mountains that lived there before the giants came. Others say that he is a man descended from the first man who lived before Smaug or the other dragons came into this part of the world, and before the goblins came into the hills out of the North. I cannot say, but I fancy the last is the true tale.
That's all I know there is about the origins of Beorn. I know the Smaug movie alludes that there were many like him and the goblins made sport of his kind. I wondered when I heard that part if PJ was just making that up or there was an actual reference he pulled from that I was unaware of. Gandalf's statement about Beorn coming before the goblins seems to contradict the movie however. Big shock I know. But that still begs the question who are the 'they' Beorn was talking about?I once say him sitting all alone on the top of the Carrock at night watching the moon sinking towards the Misty Mountains, and I heard him growl in the tongue of bears: 'The day will come when they will perish and I shall go back!' That is why I believe he once came from the mountains himself.
So getting down to brass tacks, is there anywhere else in the books that give us more clues about Beorn? I'm curious to what y'all think about it.