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  1. #1
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    Inductionless Press Onward

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    According to the tooltip: When the need is great, you can move on with little rest, restoring your Power and Morale.

    Induction less Press Onward?

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    Yes please. And not induction less like Intent Concentration, this is supposed to be a survival skill one that actually helps and is worthy of a legendary slot. I suggest it is usable on the move, ie doesn't root you to the spot like Purge Poison or Motivate in the case of captains, and is induction less. For a legendary trait, it is absolutely dreadful. Fix it Turbine.

    As is now, especially in the moors, it is so easily interruptible and has such a long cooldown that by the time you're done with the induction, you've already been hurt for as much as PO heals, or you're dead. I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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    Or, if devs are worried that hunter will use them while kiting in the Moors, make it with induction, but with immunity while you are rooted.
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    /not signed.

    This is another half measure. I don't want to give the devs opportunity to do more half-assed stuff and then call it done, feeling as though they've satisfied the community.

    How useful is man heal in a 1v1? That's what you're asking for here. Be smarter than this.

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    TBH - will be suprised if this is not in next update.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Nookdook View Post
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    TBH - will be suprised if this is not in next update.
    What makes you think that? Turbine has never really been in the business of giving Hunters a self heal...
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    Scale press onward for lev 85 while your at it...this skill hasn't been updated since lev 50 or so? 2-3k heal isn't gonna do much, it should scale with our new morale pools...I've been advocating this change for ages...please turbine!!! Do this!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnisbet View Post
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    Scale press onward for lev 85 while your at it...this skill hasn't been updated since lev 50 or so? 2-3k heal isn't gonna do much, it should scale with our new morale pools...I've been advocating this change for ages...please turbine!!! Do this!!!
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    same with bow of the righteous and man heal
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorSpecs View Post
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    This is another half measure. I don't want to give the devs opportunity to do more half-assed stuff and then call it done, feeling as though they've satisfied the community.

    How useful is man heal in a 1v1? That's what you're asking for here. Be smarter than this.
    Ummm didn't you supported this sometimes back? might mistaken you for someone else though >.>
    How useful is man heal? only useful to Race of men hunters. And also note that the man heal is instant.

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    I don't see why is it soo hard to implant, just make it like IC but with heals. IC, PO, ports, and trackings all have the same animation, so why is it so hard to change an induction skill to inductionless?

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    Only signed if it gets scaled properly as well ... and while you're scaling walk over to Bow of the Righteous, slap it, slap it again and then scale it as well.

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    But honestly, does anyone think this will happen? Our dev has been basically non-existent for as long as I can remember. I think this skill needs to be changed completely. Scaled correctly (as someone else on here stated), right now this skill does barely more than morale and power pots (possibly more). I mean if the devs want to make it a little difficult for us, just make it like the Man Heal or Barbed Arrow after using Scourging Blow. Don't make it on-the-move induction-less, make it stationary induction-less.

    So while I agree with this and think it should be changed, I doubt anything will happen.
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    We'll never get a heal that can't be interrupted. Parry response bubble is the upper limit. It will not scale. You perhaps get a self buff with +morale, interruptable and lengthy animation, 30 seconds like burn hot and 10 minute cooldown...

    Signed yes but for PVE not some pvp spar last chance.

    Frankly, I'd much rather have a ranged interrupt/corruption removal (that does not need the mob at half hp to use!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lioheart View Post
    Ummm didn't you supported this sometimes back? might mistaken you for someone else though >.>
    No. I was ambivalent toward it before RoR. But after they took suggestions from the community during ROI and created half-arsed solutions out of them in RoR I don't want that to happen again. And that's what this is. You want dev work done on one and a half morale pots? A BA's revenge alone will remove all gains from PO.

    How useful is man heal? only useful to Race of men hunters. And also note that the man heal is instant.
    You know what I meant. And manheal isn't instant.

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    Despite wanting this change it is not the solution to our problems. We need more well thought changes than this.

    In terms of moors play we need our effectiveness with CC returned, a slow removal skill, or something like moving target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKaCo View Post
    Despite wanting this change it is not the solution to our problems. We need more well thought changes than this.

    In terms of moors play we need our effectiveness with CC returned, a slow removal skill, or something like moving target.
    This may or may not be true. However what works works, getting changes for this class (and a few others) looks like its going to require incremental changes over time. A complete overhaul just dosent seem to be in the cards, I mean maybe I hear whispers, but im not sold.

    so you take one simple small step at a time, PO should be scaled too but getting it instant cast is the first small step you take. If it goes well and gets adopted, then we howl about the scale. Having more well thought out changes is great, there are numerous threads covering the breadth of the hunter class where one can gleen changes to their hearts content.

    Hows that strategy worked out so far?


  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by guitarguy12410 View Post
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    But honestly, does anyone think this will happen? Our dev has been basically non-existent for as long as I can remember.
    When you say "our dev"...who are you referring to?
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