Lms have a group healing pet, and they can force you to go into the tar with staying in it. And yes, i'm a reaver, I don't have ranged skills, and i can't stealth.
Every class has it's own awesome skills, you can't say Power drains are OP - A soloing defiler needs time to drain your whole power, and honestly, if you have so big power problems you can use a pot, or use will/power armour/jewelry. I can even say you which skraids you have to run for that equiptment.
I feel abit stupid to have to say this, after Itty's video it's just repeated stuff.
Pyrrhic | Paragon
Ishlan R12 WLNalshi R11 Rvr, Ishnal R9 Spider, Shilan R9 Defiler
Blato (Mini), Ishlun (Capt), Shilan (Ward), (+4)
Bloin r11 Minstrel
Malte r9 Burg
Maltepup r9 Warg
you mean i have to do the mindless grind of 5 levels in the lamest expansion lotro's put out, regear my minnie at cap gear, get 2nd age symbols mindlessly for the next 6 months, just to prove a point?
./pass not interested.
i'm not lucky enough to get everything handed to me, and well i never EVER roll good on gear. so w/e continue QQ.
Tinybaggie r8, Fiestyspitter r6,Traind r8, Jaydyn r6, Thistledown r6
for parses!! what I get with a slug on me, totally single target. next I see what my rk gets, though I am sure it is alot higher, is it at least double higher to make the morale difference to heal ratio equal, hmmmm... [IMG][/IMG]
no its more like....... after 4 years of playing this game, I personally don't feel the need/urge to waste 3+ months of time to prove a point to someone who's either almost or more experienced as I, that will still find something to QQ about even if the proof's in screenshot form in front of his face. as do 99% of the people on this server. if you don't believe me, don't. idc, but i'm not gonna waste MY time, to prove ANYTHING to anyone. its a freaking video game and at this point its getting to not be worth my time. especially with all the QQ from people(not per say you bloin), that expect that because they have the best armour/jewellery/LIs/virtues that real life and game money can buy they should auto win. despite all of their combined efforts through QQ, the human element is still required to play this game. now whether you do it like halkin and just roll your face across a keyboard in a 6v1 and win, or more like me who actually has to work at it, it still requires the human element. so if you(the generall QQ-ers) don't like how the game's come out for you, don't QQ, change the only thing that is different from every other piece of coded material in this game................YOU. YOU are the only reason that creeps or freeps pwn the others. nothing to do with codes, power drains, aoe dps, SI, champs, LMs, minnies, defilers, warleaders, wargs or anything else. its all about YOU.
so take YOU out to the ballpark, take a few extra practice swings and maybe you'll finally get how to swing a home run.
Tinybaggie r8, Fiestyspitter r6,Traind r8, Jaydyn r6, Thistledown r6
Moar seriously, I'm done trying to debate on anything on the forums, it's just a pain in the A$$ to have to log in every time I want to reply, quote, read everyone blablas, etc. Hit me up in game or on the facebook page if you want to discuss about this since I might take a Lotro break to try RIFT. Cheers.
Ahrean ~ Wabby ~ Licht ~ Riddermark.
Misternoodle ~ Melondeau ~ Maex ~ Brandywine.
Evna ~ Avely ~ Yleva ~ Meneldor
Clownfish ~ Dictator ~ Batadainder (or something like that) ~ Squirter ~ Crickhollow
Sadly the tip - use A for B and C to counter D&E&F, etc isn't really all that wise. Why you might ask? Because we can't get any class on demand. It's a lot tougher to get "the perfect raid" on freepside. Even on creepside it's tough. It's like you imagine we don't know of SW...You said it yourself - close or same experience - tbh, same to a couple other replies, it's not only the lack of knowledge, it's all lack of people, if you haven't noticed all those times when there's more healers at gv than freeps at gv.
About the point on LMs, lol. Yeah, when we have like 5 of one class we probably have a lot of people out, which logically leads to doing good, face-rolling with the advantage isn't anything too new.
Man, so many things to reply to, so little willingness to find the right quotes
About burgs sucking. Lol, maybe now vs spiders, rest is either annoying or tough fight.
Warg being OP? Hardly, as I said, so far they are jut experiencing the whole burg story only in fast forward. Pretty strong/borderline OP class getting ignored and becoming weaker, but ofc all of that is personal opinion.
Just makes me laugh remembering several burgs crying about how hard it is to play, how burgs are screwed and so on back in RoI until and in update 5, lol.
Fun 1v1s, btw, but if you do bring your warg out again, get him auded and work on that movement again :P
Favorite Highlights from this thread:
1) People who have been out for 2 months teaching Thorfinn/Bloin how to play
2)Baggie telling Chiron he enjoys small groups
3)Baggie alluding to secret knowledge of healing.
All around good times.
oh yeah, and it's sad that my days of solo rez camping may be over, due to the fact in ror if either side is stuck in rez (though mostly freeps are) there is a raid camping them. it's not like it used to be I miss the days of TA fights where people dying ran back to the open mouth of my warg camping rez haha, now people seem to stay dead or come back together, but ahh well! soon I will be accused of QQing so I better just play and not ramble
But yeah, I guess we're all trying to have fun. I just like different things than many others, hopefully we find a balance again
105 (Captain, Champion, Guardian)
What Dune said. At this point, heals, guardians etc are getting far too overrated in raids. One problem atm is freeps value subpar healers over dps right now and roll in groups of 18 with 3 guards, 6 minis, 3 Rks, 3 cappies 2 LMs and 1 hunter. Heal creeps to death is the new tactic I suppose.
I suspect (I don't know) creep side is easier to get comms, so (again, I suspect, dont know) lots of ppl are creeping to get comms and gear up their freep. Maybe some are changing sides for good, cause right now the easy mode side to rank is definitely creepside... I never saw creeps ranking so fast!
On the other hand, after freeps get geared, maybe we'll have more even fights with small groups and all... but the power drain is a &&&&&. It's basicly a skill that makes the other side unplayable. If you have no power, you have auto-attacks. That's all. So yes, I think power drain should go completely. Both sides.
I also think CC should be nerfed a LOT, both sides.
But don't think you are under healing, my friend. I can out-dps Qris and Thiefdog's heals on my warden, ranged, fast (5b+1y+1r, lvl 75 1st ages). But as Bloin said, they are light armour targets... Defilers? Not so much... I can't out-dps your heals with -50% incoming healing on you! lol
Spiders do need nerfs, come one... they are master kiters, debuffers and are doing very sweet dps. They don't need that many CC. No class should need it. If it does, it should be fixed so it doesn't.
A class that need to make the adversary not play at all so they can win is just broken imo.
Yes wardens do too. I know. Maybe making Determination stance do no dmg at all and when you switch stances, HoTs are cleared. That's where the big HoTs are.
Maybe making blue trait lines reduce dmg as the sets bonuses are on (that will reduce threat on PvE land, I think, may break that part)... who knows! But something needs to be done, yes.
PS: Itty, LM tar is &&&& now... they set it down only to have warg pee, defiler goo, spider web and WL banner on it. Useful only to set where that &&&& will land. =P
PS2: I want Itty to lead us!!! I even will log Herja with her eternal HoH traits on (yes, if you're a cappy in a raid, go HoH, pls - help healing, power regen and please, never in-combat rez someone if you don't trait Blood of Númmenor).
[B]Hergon[/B] (r11 warden - BW - former Fearghus from Crickhollow)
[B]Nietotchka[/B] (r10 captain - BW - former Herja from Crickhollow)
The last couple days have been great freepside. I have been having a blast, and we did quite well with Pigeon leading us last night. Not that it is any new news but success freepside comes down to good leadership/followship. Logged last night after buying my first 2 armor pieces have 6k coms left and a 2k rating, woot!
I know more gv/rez camping is ahead <shrug> it's gonna happen short term, but I dunno that it has to be permanent. Play to enjoy the game, if it gets to ya then just log and do something else. I think it is a pipe-dream to think there will ever be a perfect pvp game...I actually don't think Lotro is too bad atm....just my opinion.
Xalfang R10 warg, Xalweb R8 Spidey, Xalgnakah R8 Defiler/Bruzrat's pocket-healer, Euanggelion R8 Warden.
Edit: I tested it today cuz i was bored and I heal on average 900 hps on my defiler with some coldfells hunter plinking at me. That includes effloresence and fell restoration. Obviously in a group the hots can tick on everyone so there's a lot more healing, but in terms of single target that's my limit. Tox might be 25-30% higher at his rank, but that'd still only get him to 1200.
Last edited by DuneBug; Jan 03 2013 at 04:30 AM.
105 (Captain, Champion, Guardian)
Lets see, it takes me approximately 3 seconds to get out of combat. I am always traited HoH, with blood of numenor for a full rez...It takes 2 seconds to throw it and I essentially just gave a 10k heal (toon comes back with full morale and 90% power)when the dead toon wakes....5 seconds later, i am back to spamming WoC, rally/war cry, and my damage heals.....Did that a bunch of times today in a fight that was about 15 minutes long..... Sure some of the people died multiple times, but we also ended up getting a bunch more renown as a result of Farrial and I rezzing.
Then i got chewed out for it...
I guess we could have just wiped about 10 minutes sooner....
Iri is gonna take a long break from the moors....later all
I'm all for someone "teaching" me to play my class. I bug Far for tips and tricks all the time. Am I great in the Moors prolly not. But I know the common sense things. Follow TA. Keep healers alive. Follow TA. If I am in your raid I will trait whatever way you want and play the build to the best of my knowledge and skill. I usually don't trait HoH , I trait 5r2b with my blues being NfW and BoN for good rezzes and ICPR. We usually don't have a plethora of DPS so any little bit helps right? I always have Blade Bro going to help with DPS and I learned early on that +85 to all Stats in the long run isn't really that great. I use Fellowship Brother, SoD, and MoW.
I don't have the best of gear and Cappies can feel free to inspect and tell me somethings I should replace. I hate skirms and never win anything so I don't have a lot of skirm jewls. For Moors gear I use 2x Loyalty Helm and Pauldrons and 4x Perseverance chest down. I have run Pits t2 1000 times for Sarchol but it never drops for me so I still use Draig +Might Cape.
I have so much fun in the moors if needed I'd even be willing to lvl up my Hunter from 81 and give him a go out there even though I really really hate Rohan lol. But anyways this turned into a wall of text so I know atleast Erlessa won't read it =P
I guess the bottom line is, if there are people willing to teach nooby freeps the best way to bring value to a raid I'm down to listen. Just send me a tell ingame at Cuath or Lanelthan.
|Cuath R11 Captain||Original Challenger of Gothmog|
"CHEAP EXPLOITING GOATRIDING FREEP ZERGLINGS" -Purebloodnakh™
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