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    Why LOTRO PvP is the laughing stock of MMO's



    .....well to those PvPers that even know that LOTRO exists.....
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    lolZ Spidey, copy this thread to the general pvp forum. Good share.
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    Well we need a little freep/creep cooperation Spidey. We know that Turbine allows this behavior but that doesn't mean we have to.

    When creeps see these freavers massing in Grams, someone follow them to their farming location and 2 box shout out to freep OOC. Freeps can come wipes the freaver horde denying the farmer their cheap reknown/comms. Freeps could send up smoke signals to the creeps whenever said farmer is around and a mysterious wargpack may be waiting whenever said farmer leaves the one shotters.

    Only way to fix this is to police ourselves. Perfect application for Creep spy network

    Oh and hi there Spidey. Hows it been hanging?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gungus_coyote View Post
    Well we need a little freep/creep cooperation Spidey. We know that Turbine allows this behavior but that doesn't mean we have to.

    When creeps see these freavers massing in Grams, someone follow them to their farming location and 2 box shout out to freep OOC. Freeps can come wipes the freaver horde denying the farmer their cheap reknown/comms. Freeps could send up smoke signals to the creeps whenever said farmer is around and a mysterious wargpack may be waiting whenever said farmer leaves the one shotters.

    Only way to fix this is to police ourselves. Perfect application for Creep spy network

    Oh and hi there Spidey. Hows it been hanging?
    Of course Turbine will instantly ban you for it because you harassed that user behind those clownarrows.

    The best way to make Turbine reconsider their position is all of you doing this all day long and break down all other activity in the moors, not using the shop because you get what you need from self-farming. If you were to gang up and turn the Moors into one giant shooting gallery for a month that would probably do it.

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    Ohaider Gungus, back in the day that's exactly what would happen. I don't think the new players care one bit.

    This didn't happen on our server, at least I don't think it's our server. I copy and pasted that from another website. Credit goes to Elderban. I would link the original post, but turbine doesn't like that site

    Dar, that's actually not a bad idea. I bet if it started costing turbine actual money they would stop this BS.
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    Im all up for the idea of doing that idea Gungus gave(even if im not actually playing that much lately till pvp is back up). I understand farming for both sides to get your Aud. But some people(Only know 1 person in this server atm) abuse that and just farm 24/7. I sometimes log on and the difference is a 30k renown difference between 1 place freep side and 2 place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramidis View Post
    Im all up for the idea of doing that idea Gungus gave(even if im not actually playing that much lately till pvp is back up). I understand farming for both sides to get your Aud. But some people(Only know 1 person in this server atm) abuse that and just farm 24/7. I sometimes log on and the difference is a 30k renown difference between 1 place freep side and 2 place.
    So farming for audacity is ok? ./facepalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramidis View Post
    But some people(Only know 1 person in this server atm) abuse that and just farm 24/7. I sometimes log on and the difference is a 30k renown difference between 1 place freep side and 2 place.
    If you're thinking of me,then i assure you i transfered,and will transfer my reaver too in like a week.
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    Sorry, who are you? a
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    Good riddance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramidis View Post
    I understand farming for both sides to get your Aud.
    Why? It is ok bc it's what your friends do?

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    Farm its farm, doest matter for what
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    [QUOTE=gungus_coyote;6535692
    When creeps see these freavers massing in Grams, someone follow them to their farming location and 2 box shout out to freep OOC. Freeps can come wipes the freaver horde denying the farmer their cheap reknown/comms. Freeps could send up smoke signals to the creeps whenever said farmer is around and a mysterious wargpack may be waiting whenever said farmer leaves the one shotters.

    Only way to fix this is to police ourselves. Perfect application for Creep spy network


    I completely agree with this. Additionally, it would be helpful if someone in the know posted a map of the Moors and identified the key farming places. That way, we can check on them regularly and slap a "code red" on the farmers. I will personally commit to patrolling and calling them out in OOC whenever I see them.

    I don't get too upset about farmers because I realize that everyone plays their game and has their own set of honor/ethics. I have come to stop worying about people who will do anything to win or give themselves a sense of being better than another because there is so mich of it in LOTRO that being bothered by it would ruin the game. But as someone who has never farmed a single kill for comms, aud, rank, whatever, I do find it a bit weak when someone farms. If we can come together and stop or minimize this behavior, perhaps we can discourage it and create a different culture on Nimrodel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cunaith View Post
    ...as someone who has never farmed a single kill for comms, aud, rank, whatever, I do find it a bit weak when someone farms...
    You have no idea how much I agree especially those people who farm and still think they're better than everyone else because they got all their stuff first. Honestly, its just a game, let loose and just have fun playing.
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    I only farmed about 2k i didnt have for last piece, and if they didnt farm for their gears how would PvP be for those week they didnt have gears? Because I remember spar ran a raid of 12 - 15 people that got wiped by 5 - 6 creeps in a matter of seconds... and we where in our NPCs. If they didnt farm and after that and ran raids to help the others freeps get there gears right now PvP would still be dead entirely or just creeps getting 5 - 10k renown and freeps 100 - 2k renown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramidis View Post
    I only farmed about 2k i didnt have for last piece, and if they didnt farm for their gears how would PvP be for those week they didnt have gears? Because I remember spar ran a raid of 12 - 15 people that got wiped by 5 - 6 creeps in a matter of seconds... and we where in our NPCs. If they didnt farm and after that and ran raids to help the others freeps get there gears right now PvP would still be dead entirely or just creeps getting 5 - 10k renown and freeps 100 - 2k renown.
    I have a few comments here and please bear with me as I'm trying to grasp your logic that advocates farming.

    First, are you stating that freeps need to farm for gear in order to catch up to the creeps who may have had a week or 2 headstart? Well, you should have been able to gain your first 2 pieces as soon as you reached level 85 if you had stocked 10,000 comms before RoR. The left over comms would give you a reasonable start towards your 3 piece. 2 pieces should make a freep reasonably competitive against creeps with rank 3-4 audacity

    Second, you are assuming the creeps had a great advantage aquiring audacity for those 1-2 weeks while freeps leveled. I counter that they may have had rather small advantage since the ability to aquire comms from questing was greatly reduced. Creeps had no way of reaching audacity cap just by questing. With no freeps to Pvp, they had no clear comm aquistion advantage unless they themselves resorted to farming.

    So, if nobody had farmed, freep/creep balance would have reasonably close.

    Lastly, you just admitted to farming 2k in comms to get your last piece. Really? You have 5 pieces and you think that the last piece is that important and will really make a difference that you fell you need to farm for it? You feel that farming for that last piece is worth compromising your reputation on the server?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramidis View Post
    I only farmed about 2k i didnt have for last piece, and if they didnt farm for their gears how would PvP be for those week they didnt have gears? Because I remember spar ran a raid of 12 - 15 people that got wiped by 5 - 6 creeps in a matter of seconds... and we where in our NPCs. If they didnt farm and after that and ran raids to help the others freeps get there gears right now PvP would still be dead entirely or just creeps getting 5 - 10k renown and freeps 100 - 2k renown.
    Utter disappointment,why man? lol. However, judging by the current state of the moors, I honestly just think that the freep group su**ed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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    I farmed for the pie!

    " So, if nobody had farmed, freep/creep balance would have reasonably close. "

    You're crazy gungus :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87_Suited View Post
    lmfao slick, that is beyond epic by far best farming video ever! ahahaha

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    Well said, Gungus. I wish you all luck in your endeavor to clean up the moors. I have new found respect for those of you that are speaking against this practice. My advice is to remember who farmed and treat them in a manner that they deserve. If turbine refuses to do anything about it, it's up to the community to step up and police its own.

    Anyone notice the ones who think it's no big deal are the ones that farmed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87_Suited View Post
    people should respect farmers for the hard work they do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladgilrian View Post
    Anyone notice the ones who think it's no big deal are the ones that farmed?


    meh, i dont support it, i dont like it, i dont do it. i call out the people i catch at it, and generally harrass them as much as possible without breaking the CoC in any obvious way.....but i dont think its that much of an issue really, and heres why...

    having talked to some of the farmers on Nim, ive found the general time it took them to get full aud on a single toon was between 1 and 2 days, depending on how much time they put into it. i did quests on both sides for 3 days and got full aud on my burg....

    so yea, i dont like it but realistically its not affecting the game all that much, if people spent the time questing that they put into crying about farming they would have all their aud in nearly the same time those farmers got theirs.
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    It seems like altogether too much effort to make so many ftp accounts. I don't see how it could be fun, either.

    I don't farm and I don't care if others do. I think it would be boring but they can play the game how they like. It is just a game.
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