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  1. #2426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvatardd View Post
    Yes youre doing it wrong. Problem is cooldown on former "spamskill" Sudden strikes where you could get higher heals just because there was basicly no delay between skills. When you dont spam these skills you have pretty long delays compared to sudden strikes spam. Basicly you get skill off every 1.5-2 skills. Hit chance could be around 80. Now that should be more like 600 hps, where champ with other all healing skills shoulkd be around or even more then 300. Dont forget debuffs for dmg that are a lot more potent then potable miss chance from reaver. Impale could make a difference with dev strike after it. Reavers are strongest creep class, so if champ can fight evenly against them, im sure others wont be a big issue, except maybe spider.
    I don't think you can clearly say reavers are best Lutz. In some spars (Right now and even in RoR) Reaver dominates but- he can be easily kited.
    Especially if the reaver can't use his anti CC skills good enough.
    So far in HD I beated all freep classes with around 60% morale left in atleast one each of the spars.
    But I heard that with those same freeps (Cappy, Guardian) reaver lost or won close to losing (10k health)
    So imo OP on some classes but on some kinda weaker.

    Well we'll see after update.
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  2. #2427
    Quote Originally Posted by Romuh View Post
    I don't think you can clearly say reavers are best Lutz. In some spars (Right now and even in RoR) Reaver dominates but- he can be easily kited.
    Especially if the reaver can't use his anti CC skills good enough.
    So far in HD I beated all freep classes with around 60% morale left in atleast one each of the spars.
    But I heard that with those same freeps (Cappy, Guardian) reaver lost or won close to losing (10k health)
    So imo OP on some classes but on some kinda weaker.

    Well we'll see after update.
    Guard vs Reaver is fairly rng reliant. If I get a lot of crits with parry skills and manage to tier bleeds a lot I'll be able to keep myself above 50% long enough to make the fight close. If you drop to 50% too soon because of no healing procs you get dev striked and wiped out. I suspect guard will have a slight edge after the patch.

    Weavers can't be touched by guards so far, too much cc and dots to cleanse.
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  3. #2428
    is it macro Kees? cool kees is cool.
    or maybe it's me seeing the game in slow mo? idk
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  4. #2429
    Quote Originally Posted by roi1807 View Post
    is it macro Kees? cool kees is cool.
    or maybe it's me seeing the game in slow mo? idk
    Indeed, it was macro Sorry mate
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  5. #2430
    Quote Originally Posted by giboosc View Post
    Indeed, it was macro Sorry mate
    nps, but don't use it again k? pretty scary to watch my morale bar rushing to 0 that fast xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by giboosc View Post
    Indeed, it was macro Sorry mate
    Felt it myslef to a few times :P 5 red flashes above my head and a mile long battle log :P It's really fun to watch how effective at debugging the developers are. 2 months of beta + extra month on live and we still have it. xD
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  7. #2432
    Quote Originally Posted by roi1807 View Post
    nps, but don't use it again k? pretty scary to watch my morale bar rushing to 0 that fast xD
    Heh, now you know how we feel with your DoTs

    edit:

    Ive been today on frepside for first time in last 6 months and it wass great, fights are finaly hard and challenging. I died a lot but it was fun. Still got preety sh#tty gear. Sad its gonna end in 3 days.
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  8. #2433
    Quote Originally Posted by giboosc View Post
    Heh, now you know how we feel with your DoTs
    tell that to turbine lol, i haven't made 8 unmitigated bleeds that crit for 2.5-4.5k ^^
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  9. #2434
    Nice fights throughout the weekend, even tho pathetic at some points. Was still fun.
    Thanks PE for bringing some freeps to moors.
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  10. #2435
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer17 View Post
    Nice fights throughout the weekend, even tho pathetic at some points. Was still fun.
    Thanks PE for bringing some freeps to moors.
    U dont have Muzu in ur description we all miss MUUUZUUUUU!!!

  11. #2436
    Cheers all freeps for Lug/grams fights.
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    Indeed we had some nice fights going on. Both sides got killed and also got points even that we got outnumber buff all the time. Pity Turbine didn't fix all bugs. Looks like Resilience and pots are useless against stuns. Sadly most creeps logged earlier so we couldn't continue fights on late night at grams. Tonight Etten belongs to Freeps, since they are everywhere and in groups ^^

    P.S Where are all the Spiders from WW? we had no spiders at all most of the time. Later on we got 1 spider only lol
    Last edited by Grachuk; Dec 16 2013 at 09:52 PM.
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  13. #2438
    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post
    we got outnumber buff all the time
    Nice to hear that all heroes are back As i said few days ago - on other servers freeps are working to be good, our freeps are waiting to be good ;]


    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post
    P.S Where are all the Spiders from WW? we had no spiders at all most of the time. Later on we got 1 spider only lol
    There is a rumour that Muzu ate them all
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  14. #2439
    Quote Originally Posted by giboosc View Post
    Nice to hear that all heroes are back As i said few days ago - on other servers freeps are working to be good, our freeps are waiting to be good ;]
    Yes, my burg is now so good and OP that I should start playing my reaver to have some challenge. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post
    Indeed we had some nice fights going on. Both sides got killed and also got points even that we got outnumber buff all the time. Pity Turbine didn't fix all bugs. Looks like Resilience and pots are useless against stuns. Sadly most creeps logged earlier so we couldn't continue fights on late night at grams. Tonight Etten belongs to Freeps, since they are everywhere and in groups ^^

    P.S Where are all the Spiders from WW? we had no spiders at all most of the time. Later on we got 1 spider only lol
    Sry i loged in too late due to testing survival/threat abilities with my guard (I ran sht2c solo before and after the update just to discover tps,hps,dps,pps remains same as before 12.1, so wheres the healing and incrased dmg from all enemy attacks?)

    I try to log today for further testing, but from what i see the new 6 audacity ranks are needed strongly. Minor fire dots dealing 2,5k dmg is quite hilarious.
    icmr and ocmr are extremly painful with the new morale pools. When i saw certain champ sprinting into creeps at grams and back into the freeps, when he take a couple hits, i thought, there we go, moors are in the "good" shape again.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post
    P.S Where are all the Spiders from WW? we had no spiders at all most of the time. Later on we got 1 spider only lol
    I will log more now As I saw yday, game should be fun again.

    btw Ethelric seems to like his new cappy skills. Maybe less "Run boy run" in spars ?
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    Happy to say I've got a job again after 3 months of unemployment but I will be back soonish to camp my favourite spots and start assembling a team for the League Play, as should all of you!
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  18. #2443
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinsgarCZ View Post
    Yes, my burg is now so good and OP that I should start playing my reaver to have some challenge. :P
    Burgs are not OP they are good as they are now, but some people said yesterday that Reavers got "sick" dps and are OP ... right ... if 10 creeps can't kill yellow traited captain who is almost all the time with full morale (3 reavers were in that group including me) ... or Shield traited self healing guardian who just keep his morale up to 80% and his bleeds just finishing off "OP Reaver" ... what does it makes those 2 freep classes?

    I don't know about other classes but personally I think Champions didn't get much love. Not that I want them to be OP, but their dps is not that high like Guardians dps and also they going down pretty fast .
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  19. #2444
    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post
    ... if 10 creeps can't kill yellow traited captain who is almost all the time with full morale (3 reavers were in that group including me) ... what does it makes those 2 freep classes?
    You were even 10? I just thought this to be very ridiculous. I more and more loose my will to play cappy in moors. I can even walk through a keep into the boss room with all npcs on me and just stand there and nothing happens to me. In both cases all you see is: Block, Block, Evade, Parry, Evade, Block,....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisch View Post
    You were even 10? I just thought this to be very ridiculous. I more and more loose my will to play cappy in moors. I can even walk through a keep into the boss room with all npcs on me and just stand there and nothing happens to me. In both cases all you see is: Block, Block, Evade, Parry, Evade, Block,....
    Exactly! And we were not low rank creeps there. We just didn't know what's going lol , Block, evade, parry, selfheal etc
    There is no way that in 1v1 we can beat yellow traited captain ^^ , Also I did try in 1v1 Guardians dps traited and shield traited.
    I can win with Dps traited but with shield traited is exactly the same: Block, Parry, Evade, Selfheal and dunno what else lol

    Now most Captains will come yellow traited to Ettens just to have that "Survivability Mode On" but we can't blame them for that.
    Turbine wanted to balance Ettenmoors ... Lets hope they gonna fix it.

    P.S Are the other 2 Skill Trees that bad on Captain (Red & Blue) ?

    P.P.S wanted add 2 cents about Minstrels dps: 69k damage in 9sec -_- was getting hits for 9-12k lol so gonna add Minstrel "OP" to the list
    Last edited by Grachuk; Dec 17 2013 at 12:06 PM.
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  21. #2446
    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post

    P.S Are the other 2 Skill Trees that bad on Captain (Red & Blue) ?

    Well in red you get a bit dps more, but in my opinion its not that much more and you loose almost all survivability.
    And blue is full heals, but also no real survivability.

    Atm I would rather play them in group when you can boost the dps of you group by alot in red or heal your fellowship with all the hots in blue.

    I will have to test blue and red more in ettens though.

  22. #2447
    wow wait, no more QQ about warden bleeds?
    btw Ash the Guardian's blue traits isn't "shield", shield traits were Warden's pre HD blue traits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grachuk View Post
    . if 10 creeps can't kill yellow traited captain who is almost all the time with full morale (3 reavers were in that group including me) ...
    Personally i will try to avoid using yellow tree on my cpt, some exceptions for small groups or raids (bubbles/harms way/pve w/e), I see it as previous shield warden.
    Playing solo with that tree seems a bit ridiculous now that freeps have audacity, didnt went to moors yet, but I am tempted to go in red line and check my survival ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by roi1807 View Post
    wow wait, no more QQ about warden bleeds?
    btw Ash the Guardian's blue traits isn't "shield", shield traits were Warden's pre HD blue traits
    Don't know how you call Blue Guard Traits just saw Guard with shield who couldn't be killed
    And about Warden Bleeds ... no point QQ we all know they are bugged anyway they are not that bad.
    Well let's see what Turbine will change/fix in next patch. I hope my Resilience skill !

    Quote Originally Posted by RohirrimCaptain View Post
    Personally i will try to avoid using yellow tree on my cpt, some exceptions for small groups or raids (bubbles/harms way/pve w/e), I see it as previous shield warden.
    Playing solo with that tree seems a bit ridiculous now that freeps have audacity, didnt went to moors yet, but I am tempted to go in red line and check my survival ability
    That's the Spirit ! ^^
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    Well this is new outnumbered buff and 4 blue OP's xD
    GG freepsies

    And a brave cappy running solo in yellow tree !
    Jk its ethelric alonso

    26 freeps farming 14- creeps at grams, with outnumbered buff, even ppl that were constantly qqing on forum on a daily base about unbalance in moors, ironic. But i guess its revenge or something lol
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