imo server crashed xD
i can log Snowbourn but can't log Withywindle
imo server crashed xD
i can log Snowbourn but can't log Withywindle
Then Freeps got 12 with 4 minis and 2 capy. But only for a short time .. last time i see them they got 5 minis and healing rk + 2 capys.
At the end we only got 15 creeps and we are fighting against 30 freeps. (We got outnumbered buff)
Ps.: Small group action starts tomorrow? Well .. hope dies last
But im sure you will .. cause akrogash has written that you got cojones de mithril, irmas, prof it. :-)
Last edited by Kijani; May 05 2014 at 05:57 PM.
Maybe you ask us before you open a raid with 24. We had 15, ask Feni she was in our raid.
But we can open a raid with 7 defilers and 3 wls if you want. You will see the difference very fast.
And for the confused ones: Reavers are the ones attacking you, Defilers are trying to heal or getting attacked by your Raid-Burgs. Btw, when your burgs counted, how could they see 7 defilers, if they only attacked three defilers in our raid???
You can invite 5 minis or more if you want, not complaining about this, or your capies .. or the blue lm that was spaming water lore .. and btw. greets to Novareth the not healing RK, maybe i dreamed the writ of healing, Mending Verse or the group bubble :-)
Create your raids the way you want, use everything you got and we will do the same. No complaints about heals or whatever.
Lets see what will happen.
and pls you had 7 defs and i think 4 wl or 3 at luga heal grouped or not they where there.....one blue rank with kami was at luga bd...one more blue rank near luga bd..and the rest inside the fight..thats what i saw...they told m that you had 7 i saw 6...wl isnt the same with yellow captain his heals are way better..and dont threat about the heals...i fought your hospital with 7 more against 7 wl before the update...your leader was saying that you need 3 wl per group...i DIDNT SEE ANYONE OF YOU making COMMENTS ABOUT THE 12 vs 12 fight with same heals...why is that?????????????????????????? ???about the rk i will ask tomorrow..but i didnt said at her to go heals.....
As i said before, make your groups the way you want and we will do the same then we will see what happens. Its a kind of Actio=Reactio.
Invite as many healers as you want. If none of us can kill everything we have to think about our group formation and change something.
Next thing is im not a fan of arranged fights, cause for creeps the element of surprise is important.
Finaly, im surprised that you noticed that 1 wl isnt the same like a captian but you still dreaming of groups with "same heals". What does it mean?
Is 1 Defiler a mini ? Or 2 Captains one Wl ? Or 1 Caption and 1 LM ?
You cant compare the healings from creep and freep side. Cause its not only healing. You have to concider all the other skills that are supporting you. We dont have eg. a group bubble, in Harm's Way or Litany of Defiance.
You cant compare freep and creep. Both are totaly different. Ill hope you get it one day.
So again, i guess you want to win a fight, same as we do. So take all the classes that you need to win and we will do the same.
Otherwise someday its 6.05. 2015 and we are still complaining about "stacking heals" .. and im get bored of this discusion.
So lets fight, not talk.
Think most of you need learn to count.
My suggestion for the next raid vs raid action, call Lutz to be the referee of the match. Lutz will note everything : numbers / healers / people not following the rat / bad CC / outposts / buff bonus (if they are good for both sides) / leechers / etc etc.
Lutz problably will need some help, any volunteers?
Last edited by SANTAREM; May 05 2014 at 10:32 PM.
I had a little chat 2 days ago with some Purple rank freep, numbers was one of topics and its clear to me that you guys (freeps) are Dunc obsessed. You are blaming Dunc for literal everything.
"He had 23 men raid" he said, tried to explain that DUnc is trying to keep 12 men groups, he can be responsible for all creeps in moors.
"He had FCZILION of healers" - OFC he had healrs, but not ALL of those healers was in group.
"But he said in past, that even ungrouped crowd of people is same as raid" - ofc, but you cant blame him for ALL people loged creepside.
As you guys said, you have numbers problem. Now think. Where your numbers dissapeared?
Option 1 - people who played freep pre u13 switched to creepside (defiler, WL, spider - lots of new ones i see last 2 weeks)
Option 2 - people are too scared to play against u13 creeps.
Please tell me, wich one of above options is Dunc responsibility?
It snowed here yesterday, and I'm pretty sure it was Dunc's fault. And this morning, I made oatmeal, but my brown sugar was as solid as a brick. I blame Dunc for that also. I feel like my life has been zerged. By Dunc.
One night at HD 13.1 freeps were heavily more ---> Creeps instant disband + QQ (at least u could have a try closer to your gys, I m sure u could farm easy those who were out of large fraid)
Almost entire RoR + HD creeps were heavily more ---> Freeps were fighting over and over every night all the creep map backs (can't even remember how many 12v24 fights) ---> (Even then Creeps used to QQ about 2d cappy on 12v24 raids in hostile keeps)
As u saw it's not so easy to fight heavily outnumbered even if u are stronger.. Why creeps used to act in this way every night on the past?
I m happy that creeps are much stronger now, maybe some players/leaders will be able to see the game from a different side of view..
Last edited by jivius; May 06 2014 at 02:34 AM.
So you mean we should "play" like you played during RoR and HD ? Ok, no problem, need 8 defiler 8 wl and 8 dps, we are waiting for you at luga bd then. Cheers
Ps.: if we lose Lug then you can find us at TR bd or gy .. and if tr is gone and Lug isnt red again, then we are gone.
The times that freeps were hagging bds there wasn't even any fraids on (maybe u used to think that there was one).
Anyway heavily outnumbered fights are not good one way or another (specially when weaker side doesn't take any kills at all). Maybe now u ll be able to appreciate the heavily outnumbered fights we used to give u (despite the fact freeps don't have any map backs).
I would be glad to see now on Withy a good challenged creep group too by the time Turbine has given creeps all the needed power for this.. (Maybe Germans used to form some when they first came here (thanks to Pokaz) although after a while they used to become part of the easy numbered Withy creep way)
Last edited by jivius; May 06 2014 at 03:14 AM.
You fought inside red keeps? xD Ive never seen this during RoR or HD. Maybe the reason for this is that i can only remember the bad memories.
And that bad memories are "Haras is waiting in front of blue keep xyz and he is not moving at all" or "Nice, luga flipped, were is haras gone? Ah ok, he is on his way to blue TR".
And again all those forum posts leads to nothing, we can continue this until the server go offline forever. This discusion is as old as lotro itself and its not only lotro you can find this discusion in every game with openpvp.
Thats the last post from me, i promise, its wasted energy Lets fight instead of writing.
Hmm I don't know how old is your creep although u need to ask what was happening before Leis raids during RoR when freeps were united.. (actually it was the period I used to lead before creeps QQ which made me quit leading and start to play on burg..).
Even after I stop leading, Imilhir's (usually 12max) raids were fighting every night heavily outnumbered since end of RoR away from Leis raids..
Once again at bds there were freeps out of raids (ungrouped or on small fellows)
Agreed on stop fighting here we just scratching old wounds that need be left when they happened.
Also guys stop accuse Dunc on the forums pls. Played with the guy before he went to moors and even now a few times in his raids and its not so bad as you guys makes it look like.
People want to play on a char and many times even raid leaders can't get enough for group and have to play with what they have at that time.
Dunno why ppl have to overact so much..At the fight at lug that i bothered to count i counted 5 defilers and 3 WLs at the end of the fight..So there were 2 defilers outside of the craid at that point(Kamolas and the blue rank defiler with the globsnaga skin i guess) since you said that you only had 3 inside it..So stop imagining crazy numbers with 4 blue minis crosshealing while in fact there were 2!!!(i dont mean yesterday) and generally stop this pointless fight..
Kijani i dont know who you are but if you mean that the 12man fraids at ror had 4 healers 4 cappies and 4 dpsers i l have to dissapoint you i m afraid...1 healing rk 1 healing mini 1 or 2 cappies and 1 lm after feni started playing lm...And we had tons of fights vs double numbers of creeps and we did surprisingly good(even though we cant play and myself have no idea what i m doing while leading fraids)...IF Nil was following rat though we would do even better xDD ..
When u used to meet Bestone's new coming small freep groups u used to have a farming party.. So basicaly there was only our group..
After Leis start to form the zergs (at late RoR) most of the times we were fighting away from his raids by the time most of creeps leaders were in contact at TS with him.. Sometimes maybe our small groups were around although most of the times we were fighting alone..
U have learnt to fight in this way because creeps were weaker although now it would be nice to see sometimes creep groups trying to fight even outnumbered as we used to do every night (it's not so usual for creeps to be outnumbered anyway)..
Last edited by jivius; May 06 2014 at 07:57 AM.
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