I know little about minis etc, but ofc have a wl and a defi - although not played my defi since u13 except for testing the heals = so I'm no expert but:
The usual creep group setup of one defi, one wl per group is now more potent than it used to be.
So considering we used to have nice fights with the freeps with one mini per group and the creeps with the above setup, why is the setup still the same now the defi is a lot more powerful?
I'm not saying that freeps can't debuff more effectively - they can and I think that post I posted above re debuffing is very useful. But despite this, i think for a 12 man creep group facing 12 man freep group, 2 defis and 2 wls is way too much - 1 wl and 1 defi/2 defi (at a push) is more reasonable - yes it sounds risky, but I think those 2 defis between them can keep that wl up - and if they can't, maybe craid should focus on taking down lm and a burg at start of fight to reduce freep cc
As for 12 creeps with that setup vs 20 freeps = i think then that setup is fine, freeps can counter it with the right fraid - but if freeps don't have a nice setup (lots of squishies etc) and are struggling to get more, craid after an easy wipe of the freeps should maybe think about asking some people to switch to lower rank chars.
I wish we could have a focus on dps and tactics rather than a 'who can heal' best competition. It shouldn't be 'oh no that guy is being ratted, heal through that dps!! - it should be 'ok guys, blah is ratted, get some webs/slows down, traps down, cc the melee train and heal him too' - healing alone shouldn't win it.
I wasn't here yesterday, so can't comment on fights then. But I haven't seen creeps being wildly unreasonable with their setups so far, challenging to freeps maybe yes, but unbeatable? No. But I do think its sad that healing rather than coordination, timing and cc can win the day
Also, ty to Tam for nice 1 v 1s today sad that you to specc glory to have a chance, but champs getting some love in 13.1 i hear