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  1. #26
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Logged in just to give +rep.
    Thanks for making this

  2. #27
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Great job and thanks for posting! I've linked this from my kin's website so all our wardens can benefit from this too.

    I second the sticky (and the +rep)!

  3. #28

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Please sticky this, very useful. Nice work :-)

  4. #29

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Quote Originally Posted by Untg99 View Post
    Not sure if you changed it when I looked, but the Double Shield mastery gives a +300 PM buff in recklessness.
    You're totally right, that somehow got omitted. Fixed! Thanks, Cons.
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  5. #30

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    This is very cool.

    One issue I see is that you show main-hand damage for most Assailment skills, but most of those are Javelin damage.

    That might be too obvious to bother mentioning though,

  6. #31
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    +rep

    Very useful indeed. Vote 4 sticky!

    -Howgie

  7. #32

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    If "Shield Mastery" lasts 60 seconds and gives +1500 Evade and +1500 Block, what is the point in using the other buffs? I hope I'm not missing anything obvious, but I just can't work it out.

    Edit: Turns out I was missing something obvious. The other buffs are not just buffs; they are taunts, HoTs, DoTs etc. Although, this does lead me to another question. Would the lesser buffs override "Shield Mastery"?
    Last edited by Eruiadan; Mar 28 2012 at 06:35 PM.
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  8. #33

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Excellant job +rep , sticky please

    Printed + added link to Kin website
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  9. #34

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    I'm printing this out - great job. +rep

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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Nice. I have increased your reputation using the implemented system that has been laid out for us by the web development team.
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    + rep

    Would also be useful to have a similar list, only sorted by gambit instead of stance for stance-dancing purposes, i.e.:

    [1313] Boar's Rush
    Determination
    • 602 Common Damage
    • Increased Critical Chance
    • 25% chance for 2s fear
    Recklessness
    • 684 Common Damage
    • Increased critical chance
    • 25% chance to apply 3s knockdown
    Assailment
    • 595 Common Damage
    • Increased critical chance
    • Increased Damage if [131] Combination Strike bleed is present
    • Bleed - 340 common damage every 4s
    • 25m range, 10m minimum range
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  12. #37

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Thank you , thank you , thank you!!!!!!!

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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Incredible job here, thank you so much for all your hard work. I'm putting this link in my kin's website as well.

    +Rep and +Vote for Stickiness
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Thank you very much for this...AWESOME JOB!!!!!!

    +Rep and I to vote for this to be a sticky!
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaBard View Post
    One issue I see is that you show main-hand damage for most Assailment skills, but most of those are Javelin damage.

    That might be too obvious to bother mentioning though,

    In Assailment, "Main-Hand" is supposed to refer to your javelin, but I can see how that might be unclear. I'll add a disclaimer to the Assailment section mentioning that, thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eruiadan View Post
    If "Shield Mastery" lasts 60 seconds and gives +1500 Evade and +1500 Block, what is the point in using the other buffs? I hope I'm not missing anything obvious, but I just can't work it out.

    All buffs stack with each other except the ones listed under the "Effects That Do Not Stack" section. So there is no reason you can't have Shield Mastery up in addition to other buffs, such as Dance of War, Shield Tactics, etc. Our gambits are set up in such a way that everything carries an opportunity cost - playing a warden effectively is done by prioritizing gambits that have a larger effect over the ones with smaller effects based on what you're doing (threat, avoidances, heals, etc.). The lists at the end of the sections are meant to help out with that - so if you want to buff your block you know which gambits will be most effective.

    I'll add a section in the introduction clarifying stacking effects better.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rainyman View Post
    + rep

    Would also be useful to have a similar list, only sorted by gambit instead of stance for stance-dancing purposes.

    Not a bad idea, I'll add this section when I get the time (probably in the next day or two). Shouldn't be too bad, just a matter of copy and pasting.



    Thanks for the input everyone!
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  16. #41

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    First of all, thanks for great list, really need it.

    On other hand, the above gambit list declare the obvious - warden become so complicated class + very gear dependent, that it's not fun anymore and nothing for all but superior player. So my own 75 wrd is shelved until warden 3.0.
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    Thumbs up Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Only one thing missing: The builders (Quick Thrust/Stab/Toss; Shield Bash/Blast/Behind the, and Warden's Taunt/Scorn/Aim)

    The rest is perfect
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    I am not seeing any Lifetap over time on critical/devastating criticals in Recklessness (e.g. Aggression, Surety of Death, Brink of Victory). If not resisted, I get a 1-shot heal from "Warden Lifetap" with these on criticals, and no effect/debuff is placed on the target to indicate some kind of over-time effect.

  19. #44
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Thanks alot - excellent work.

    + Rep
    Definately worth being stickied.
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  20. #45

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Shouldn't there be a T3 lifetap on crit for Spear of Virtue in Recklessness? It says so on the tooltip, but I haven't actually tested it myself.

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  21. #46

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    +rep. This is pretty awesome. I know there are Gambit Charts, graphs, pies, whatever, but this is nice and basic. Good job.
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  22. #47

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    The one thing that I didn't notice (not a big deal, but just to make it complete) was in this part:

    Top Upfront Damage Gambits

    1. Wall of Steel - 1239 Main-Hand Damage
    2. The Dark Before Dawn - 1192 Main-Hand Damage
    3. Warden's Triumph - 1114 Main-Hand Damage
    4. Onslaught - 1074 Main-Hand Damage
    5. Combination Strike - 958 Main-Hand Damage

    You just did not follow the same format as the rest of the post (I.E., #1 should be something like "1. (1)(2)(1)(2) Wall of Steel... or however you did it
    ). Just wanted to point that out.
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  23. #48

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Thank you for your hard work and dedication that you have put into this.
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    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    Added to the Sticky in Big Bold letters. Glad the Graal thread was still available for your thread too
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  25. #50

    Re: Asto's Gambit Compendium [Warning: Comprehensive]

    I did some testing tonight, and the lifetaps for Persevere and Safeguard in Assailment do not proc. these two gambits are worthless in this stance.
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