Re: Alright then, about this PvMP lark ...
Do you kite in PvE? You're pretty close to invincible if you do. Before the update, I needed to kite with my minstrel just to kill 2 or 3 mobs. Now, I can pull probably as many as 5 or 6 on-level mobs and kill them easily while kiting (assuming they have no slows or stuns), using cry of the wizards to slow them, hitting chord of salvation whenever it's up, and perhaps throwing a coda and an insta-cast bolster if things get messy. Heck, right when the changes hit last fall and I was in the mid 50s, I ran one of the level 50 instances in the Great Delving and as a test, pulled every single orc in the instance except the 4 in the first room and kited them to death. They were not grey either but were about 5 levels under me. This is essentially the strength of the minstrel in PvP. If you just stand there and get beat on by the creeps then you're not doing it right.
Originally Posted by Binidj
The bubble is pretty meaningless in PvP. Yes it's 800 less morale or so but that isn't game breaking. In fact, I hope that was a PvE adjustment and not meant to fix anything in PvP. It's not just the ballads, it's the self heals, the cries, and the calls that can all be used on the move. In my opinion, the most simple nerf that is needed is that chord of my salvation should be unusable in PvP (not the regular chord of salvation) or alternatively, warspeech needs a 50% healing penalty in the Moors. It would be better for everyone if minstrels weren't running around like some kind of tank-battle mages as they are now and were instead being used for their intended purpose which is group healing.
Just read the other responses, thanks, that's cleared that up ... so it's not so much the Minstrel healing or bubble that's the issue so much as the induction-free ballads? Being able to use ballads and codas on the move is invaluable to me as a healer, not so much in a dps role ... but then I hate, hate, hate kiting so others may have a different opinion.
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