Re: What is wrong with the hunter?... Why, everything and here is why!
First of all, breathe please. You sound like you're about to hyperventilate.
Originally Posted by Djasi
Second, You are equally guilty about not thinking about what a good hunter can bring to and do for a group.
Their range and ability to work with said range is a more potent tool than most give credit for. It's a form of extension that allows breathing space both geographically and, just as important, chronologically.
Further, their CC capability is not 3rd rate, as people keep saying.. it's jsut that few hutners know how to work it well, or bother trying to learn. A skilled hunter playing totheir CC can control and occupy 4 CC targets simultaniously and permanently, with actual CC. No other class can boast this.
Several times back in Ost Dunhoth, we didn't have our LMs for their CC, they couldnt' make it, or were absent. In their place, one (only one) of hte hutners traited full CC and used her CC bow isntead, to fill both LMs CC jobs. She did it admirably, and in fact, it was -easier- with her doing so than many of our runs with the LMs handling CC. More sore was missing their debuffs, of course, but the CC aspect was a breeze with a single dedicated hutner, more than with Two LMs. We are NOT second rate CC.
Lastly, we don't "barely" eke out a win over other classes in single target output. We anihilate other classes in it, when we are able to go at full throttle.... that last clause is usually the problem, since we're limited bythe threat barrier, just like everyone else; the unfairness being that other classes have more potent methods of ducking under it than we do. However, today, for example, in Lighting, we had a rare opportunity where the hutners -could- go full bore for the fight and not pull threat... the results were quite spectacular: of Kalbak's 1.4 million, one hunter was responsible alone for over 500k of it, the second was responsible for a little over 600k... that leaves 300k between the rest of the group, including a champ, burg and RK who were all Dps. The fight lasted about 6 minutes.
It seems that Turbine are interested in giving us ways to really push out limits too, since the mechanic that allowed it was not broken EoB (which our group refused to use, out of fairness), but raher the warden's assailment conviction, which, amidst all the warden bugs and breaks, is NOT one of the things considered broken, non-functional or bugged.
No-one's saying some love isn't wanted badly... the issue with threat is the major sore point, made moreso by demonstrations of what should be possible if it were mitigated. but the biggest thing harming hutners as aclass, currently, are the truckload of people busy whinging to everyone they meet about how poorly off and useless hutners are. THAT is the way you marginalise a class... by shouting vocally about how worthelss they are to everyone. Stop saying it; it isn't true.
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